New employee is a fake, where to go from here?

[londonnotlangdon]

It's a large organisation and I just had to send off her paperwork, passport, things like that

She was given the job after her second interview last week.

However, she has emailed me these documents (fine), and her birth certificate says born in September 2002?

That makes her 19?

This is a problem because, for example, her CV says she was an Executive Assistant to a Director in 2018? When she would've been in school?!

I've asked HR, who haven't replied properly, I've asked them to call. But someone replied to my email of concern with 'so you don't want this new me ever of staff? Why not?'

What can actually be done about this?

Would you want to employ a liar and a fraud?

Apparently 40% of people admit to lying on their CV & more people will do it but not admit to it. I certainly embellished my excel skills for one job.

Would you want to employ a liar and a fraud?

Apparently 40% of people admit to lying on their CV & more people will do it but not admit to it. I certainly embellished my excel skills for one job.

no idea why that came out twice

You could always check out her birth on free BMD.

Oh god yes it’s so frustrating isn’t it?!

It's odd that you asked her to provide her birth certificate to start?

I've seen several posters on here saying they don't apply unless they meet all of the qualifications in the ad. When you do that, you're overqualified. You want a role where you can grow.

As one Forbes article put it, “Men are confident about their ability at 60%, but women don’t feel confident until they’ve checked off each item on the list.” The advice: women need to have more faith in themselves.

It’s definitely a woman thing. I was taught in my first year at uni to never go for a job I was qualified for because I’d be bored witless within weeks. I agree 100% and am in this position right now… however when I apply for “more” and reach interview they seem perplexed when I explain this theory - even though I try to say in the nicest possible way “I’m a software expert, sure I’ve not used “this” package before, but it’ll take me about an hour to pick it up”.

Nice try🤣 girlfriend

Why? Employers are required to check ID using multiple sources and a birth certificate is on the list of suitable documents. Plus at 19, she's more likely to still live with her parents, or live in shared accommodation so could well not have things like bills in her own name to use.

As one Forbes article put it, “Men are confident about their ability at 60%, but women don’t feel confident until they’ve checked off each item on the list.” The advice: women need to have more faith in themselves.

This is true, but also women are often judged more about their abilities than men are, for the same qualifications/experience.

I recently had to get my pgce certificate reprinted from the University as I lost mine, and it came with 2018 on it. I qualified in 2008! I didn't actually notice until HR questioned it! It could be something like that?

Oh sorry I see that it is on multiple docs!

Oh sorry I see that it is on multiple docs!

But that's the sort of thing that is realistic. Caitlin Moran did similar. Or doing YouTube or selling on Etsy.

Pa to a senior person in large company is not realistic.

@EdgeOfSeventeenAndThreeQuarter - That doesn’t surprise me and I’ve had similar - knocked back for jobs where I’ve had 90% of the requirements. Always being contacted by recruiters for jobs that are precisely equivalent to mine, much less often for a step or two up. Unlike male colleagues with less experience who often interview for / land roles with many new and additional responsibilities. I think people are keener to take a punt on men, as well as seeing women as doing X job, whereas men are building a career.

I wonder if it’s like pay negotiations. We’re told that women don’t negotiate hard enough. My experience is that there is a lot of truth in that, but it’s also true that some people aren’t keen on women who negotiate. A highly-paid job came up in a different team in a previous organisation and it seemed a colleague of mine could either go for it (leaving her manager with a headache as she was the lynchpin of the team) of it use it as leverage for a raise in her clearly equivalent role. Her manager was obviously worried, but said he didn’t really think she’d do it as ‘she wasn’t like that’.

She left the company altogether for something better paid.

You seem to have a feeling somethings off.
Make sure you are clear what you want from HR.
It would be unfair for someone to be handed a job under false pretence.

National Insurance Number can give away age. It is possible to check this and report to Tax office as if using someone else’s NINO it is fraud

Zombie thread!

She was 13 in 2015. Get her in and question her.

she retracted her application

If it does turn out to be dishonesty rather than an error of some kind I should think that definitely matters in an employee!

Jesus, RTFT.

I love a zombie thread with a conclusion! Enjoyed reading they, wonder what she is doing now and why she withdrew

Fake ID, stolen documents, report to police.