Boris has been fined - Part 3

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Here we are.

And here is Part 2

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4529283-Boris-has-been-fined-Part-2?reply=116839783

@itsgettingweird - I'm so sorry for you and your Mum.

for your mum and you Itsgettingwierd

Really sorry Itsgettingwierd

Itsgettingwierd
I'm so sorry that you have to go through this. We recently lost my dmil following a heart episode. We were told we'd have 2 months but cherished the four we ended up having with her.

Boris Johnson to admit he was at No 10 ‘Abba’ party — but only to conduct job interview

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/partygate-abba-party-boris-johnson-job-interview-b2067432.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

So... Johnson was at the Lee Cain leaving party pouring drinks. Then he went up to the flat where Carrie was holding Abbagate to celebrate the departure of Cummings. But Johnson did not attend that party which was being held in his own home as he was in another part of the flat holding a job interview?

Have I got that right?

No wonder the Daily Fail and the bots on Twitter have been trying to push Durhamgate so hard over the last few days.

So they've assembled an excuse for the worst - or clearest - example of a breach...

Job interview tends to happen during the day and in actual offices in my experience.

You'd have to be a fool to believe it, but judging from other threads there are a few around.

Is this the best they can manage? A job interview? After hours? With ABBA playing? Ffs, how stupid do they think we are?

It's getting weird
I am also sorry to hear about your mum too ;(
I hope you will get through this tough time. It is so sad.

I have read two articles today about Labour MPs ; one is up for bullying and one for sexist remarks. When I hear about the politicians of all parties being so crass or bullies or breaking their own rules etc it doesn't surprise me that people go ' they are all the same '
( it's online today in the Guardian , but I can't do links to it)
I'm not condoning anything to do with partygate or their behavior over lockdown, but it goes to show that all political parties have their problems and need to shape up a lot :( why are they like this ?
It's just depressing how they carry on.
I doubt that BJ will get another FPN somehow.

Which job was the person being interviewed for? I think we ought to know that Johnson doesn't take these seriously either.

Lying to the police is pretty serious.

I wonder if the questionnaires they filled in required a statement that they are true .

And whether they match information already provided to Sue Gray.

All parties have their problems to some extent, but the Johnson Government takes the lowering of standards to a wholly worse extent.

I couldn't for one moment have seen May holding parties at all, never mind lying about attending them. I couldn't see her conducting a "job interview" while a noisy party was going on around me. And I am no fan of May.

Well he wouldn't have been able use the offices for a job interview because there was a party going on...

Well he would have needed to conduct the interview at a party, because a key part of how well anyone works in Downing Street is how they party...

In other news, the justice minister is going to call prisoners inmates and that is going to cure the chronic underfunding in prisons.

Fucksake. He's got the whole of a big, big office building to hold an interview. He wants to avoid a leaving party in one room in that big, big office. So, rather than going to another room on, say, a different floor, he chooses to go to his flat where apparently the imperative of avoiding being near to a noisy and illegal party suddenly disappeared.

And that interview just happens to be with someone his wife claims to be her best friend, so he shouldn't have been interviewing him at all. And we're asked to believe that Carrie was throwing a hell of a party, her husband and her bestie were just down the corridor, but neither of them took any part in the party? And it didn't occur to her husband to suggest that the party could not happen because, y'know, he'd been spending weeks telling the electorate that they couldn't have parties?

Honestly, if any police officer swallows that excuse, he isn't fit for office.

Well Downing Street is both so large that he couldn't possibly keep track of what was happening there - and also so small he could only interview someone in his kitchen.

The thing is about Boris at least he knows what a party and a woman are. You really can't say that of May, or did he or didn't he have a beer Keir.

It'll be interesting to see if Johnson tried that excuse on Sue Gray, and what her reaction was.

Sue Grey will have been able to track movements in and out of the Number 11 flat. There are security cameras. I wonder how long the "job interview" lasted.

I am guessing he will say he didn't intervene in Abbagate because he was assured no rules were being broken.

Surely this load of tripe won't get him off the hook?

Who on earth holds an interview with "The Winner Takes It All" blaring out the speakers next door.

They are all taking us for fools.

Tory MPs will know it is a lie. The police and the public will know it's a lie. The same old faces (Fabricant, Dorries and Schapps) will be wheeled out to say "nobody's interested, move on." Most of the cabinet will tweet their support and then go to ground.

And once again it will depend on whether Tory MPs think Johnson as PM will let them hang on to their jobs.

Would he have some responsibility as it is his flat, I know it isn't a normal tenancy but it is attached to his job so surely he has some responsibility for ensuring nothing untoward is going on his employer's property. Are we his employers? We must be as our taxes pay his wages.

The PM is not an employee - as far as I can see the checks on their powers/behaviours are with Parliament and possibly the courts (judicial review?).
It's an interesting question.

Agree.

And although I'm absolutely against the idea that a man controls his wife - if it's true that Carrie was organising and holding parties he really did and should have exercised power and shut them down and made it absolutely clear to her that if she was to live at No11 as his spouse she had to adhere to expectations of that role.

November 2020? When we were all locked down in the circuit breaker to ‘save Christmas’ followed by fucking over the kids at the beginning of January and causing utter chaos for schools and parents by opening schools for one day and not listening to the scientists/medics and admitting that an unrestricted Christmas was an utter disaster?

my arse he didn’t know what was going on was wrong and against the law.