Boris has been fined - Part 2

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Because this is going to go on and on.....
With more fines

Part 1 here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4528104-boris-has-been-fined-tory-voters-should-he-go

Today is Stephen Lawrence Day everyone. Not heard much form any Tory MPs on this.

But Kier held a beer

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1310561/keir-starmer-why-is-keir-starmer-a-sir-stephen-lawrence-cps

I don't know a single teacher who did any of that. We were in our gardens sipping gin.

I do know plenty who had cake and takeaways together and weren't arrested or given fpns though. Those tiktok dances! all in ppe what fun and japes.

And they all had their spouses and interior designers with them.
Keep digging

No, but then I’ve never worked in cloud cuckoo land.

When I worked in the NHS we also weren’t allowed to bring family members into the offices due to confidentiality and data protection (people looked the other way on the odd occasion for a child if the parent was literally popping in) before the pandemic so certainly not during or afterwards.

Oh I was the Met would hurry up and fine Johnson for Abbagate. Then he will have to go and Janiie will have to stop her insanely boring repetitive defence of him 🎉(which I am beginning to think she doesn't mean, but is just having a laugh).

Wish not was.

Yet another slur on NHS staff Janiie

I have NO idea about tik tok dances even though you bring it up all the ruddy time... but whatever those at the coal face in the NHS did (and I am sure you are referring to a tiny percentage)... is it OK that BJ broke the law? And lied about what he did and didn't do?
Please don't say he didn't know. If he is as thick, stupid and uninformed as that, he should not be in the job. All I know is... if I was an MP I would make sure that I followed every rule to the letter.
BJ didn't. He knew. He encouraged staff to 'let off steam', he oversaw a culture of partying whilst on the job.

The way his support is leaking away, it'll soon just be you as the last man standing... 😂

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Next Conservative Party Leader Odds:

Liz Truss: 6/1
Tom Tugendhat: 8/1
Jeremy Hunt: 8/1
Ben Wallace: 10/1
Penny Mordaunt: 21/2
Rishi Sunak: 12/1
Sajid Javid: 17/1
Michael Gove: 20/1
Nadhim Zahawi: 23/1
Dominic Raab: 33/1

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Tbf I do get tagged on here so if folk don't want my opinion then stop tagging me?

If he goes, then again I won't lose sleep over it I'm just pointing out inconvenient facts. Labour are using bereaved families to manipulate people. Workplace interactions are in no way comparable to restricting visiting in high risk health care areas.

Some of you should try to debate without insults btw. I'm not thick, stupid or boring just because you disagree with me.

Liz Truss. God preserve us.

I wish @JaniieJones could explain just once how the fact that a few of her friends and relatives had a cake in the staffroom after work equates to the person who was responsible for making the rules - and kept popping up to tell us to comply with them - inviting in his spouse, interior decorator and a photographer to a non-essential workplace gathering. Or indeed why it makes lying to Parliament OK.

It's not Labour using bereaved families. It is bereaved families inconveniently popping up of their own volition and making it very, very clear how angry they are at Johnson's conduct. Only Johnson apologists claim to be unable to see the very strong relevance of their position.

I think maybe a tenner on Wallace could be a good investment. Johnson keeps claiming all the credit for such help as we are giving Ukraine, but the general view is that it is actually Wallace who is driving that.

Some of you should try to debate without insults btw. I'm not thick, stupid or boring just because you disagree with me

I didn't say you were any of those things. I did say your defence of him was boring and repetitive, because it is. All you do is say the same things over and over. Your slurs against NHS staff are very distasteful too. Also, Labour is not exploiting bereaved families, it is simply expressing what thousands and thousands of them feel. That is the job of politicians, to represent their constituents' views.

Labour are using bereaved families to manipulate people

And you are dismissing what bereaved families went through.

Have a read of this.
It actually made me tearful and I'm a tough nut.

Look at the date. How relevant the date is. And you say Labour are using bereaved families? How crass.
This man isn't moving on understandably and Labour are representing what their constituents are feeling.
Unlike the Tories.

twitter.com/GlenMitchell1/status/1517277637374271490

'Your slurs against NHS staff are very distasteful too.'

What slurs? I'm an nhs supporter, I've loads of family and friend in the nhs.

I'm pointing out many had cake and takeaways at work in staff areas because that was allowed. Work was different to socialising out of work.

Some of you should try to debate without insults btw. I'm not thick, stupid or boring just because you disagree with me

Interesting. There is no post currently showing on this thread that accuses you of being thick. However, I got reported for a post in which I said I did not believe you were thick and therefore that you fully understood the relevance of references to bereaved families. I wonder how that could have happened?

I am not going to engage with you any longer janiie as I will end up getting another ban. Just bear in mind that there will be people posting here who stuck to the rules and suffered in a myriad of ways by doing so. That is why so many people are angry and will not move on until that rancid lump of lard is out of office.

Eating at work was certainly permitted.

30 people from different departments, family members and randomers plus official photographer and event staff not so much.

Regardless the writing is on the wall for Johnson. It will be interesting (and/or worrying) to see which candidates get the Con membership approval - and who starts chucking money in to their campaigns.

I'm pointing out many had cake and takeaways at work in staff areas because that was allowed. Work was different to socialising out of work

30 of them? With a spouse and a decorator thrown in for good measure?

Have you read that twitter link? That man is not moving on, can you blame him?

@JaniieJones Can you show me where Boris Johnson explained to children that it was fine for them to have birthday parties in May and June 2020 if they did so at school with those who were also at school?

I also stuck to the rules, we all did. We didn't see people in hospitals and we couldn't attend a funeral. Because there was a pandemic and they needed to reduce foot fall in high risk areas.

I also know that friends in the nhs wished colleagues happy birthday in offices and staff areas and ordered takeaways. Which is fine, keyworkers at work were obviously allowed to. I clapped for the nhs, I think it's great so there's no slurs from me.

BJ won in 2019 by a huge majority. Of course Labour will use whatever then can to get him out.

Just Fabricanting on and on. The more it's said, the more disassociated from reality it feels. There must be a name for someone who constantly builds their own reality around them and vehemently insists everyone else joins in? I don't know what it is, so Fabricanting will do for now.

BJ won in 2019 by a huge majority. Of course Labour will use whatever then can to get him out

This is about common decency and honesty. I just don't think you get that.

It's about what a huge amount of the general public feel. Not Labour. The polls are about 65% saying BJ lied, so there you go

I guess some people just don't care that the PM is a liar and a law breaker.