Money saving expert thinks civil unrest is coming

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There was a thread on mumsnet recently about civil unrest, views seemed to be it wouldn’t happen, the British don’t protest

Martin Lewis thinks hungry cold people will protest

I think he could be correct, what have people unable to afford heat and food got to lose?

@NorthbyNorthwest22

I haven't read the comments but i guarantee the vast majority have no idea whats coming. Food riots will be the least of your worries!

We are heading for a recession bigger than the great depression. Believe me or don't, im really not bothered but by October everyone will know.

So agree about what might be coming.

I have tried telling people. Some are listening. On some it is dawning.
Trouble is, younger people do not have much reference for this type of thing. So they are not yet properly understanding.

Of course things can change, and things may not happen.
But personally, so far at least, I think we are heading towards a really, bad time.
And yes could be as bad or worse than the great depression.

Out of interest @NorthbyNorthwest22, would you mind saying what sorts of things you are doing to prepare?
Or dm?

There's lots of work out there, business-wise I've never been as busy. I can't even people to come and work for me for upwards of £300 per day.

What I was getting at is, this poverty, people seem not to be able to make a basic plan. Some of the solutions are in plain sight to me but I don't wish to sound patronizing.

@Hrpuffnstuff1

What is this job you speak of for 300 pounds a day? I’ve always worked in the public sector hence my CV just isn’t really suited to certain roles in the private sector. I am degree educated and would love to earn 300 a day.

It's in construction, some installers are earning double that every day.
However, it's long hrs and miles on the road.

My hourly rate atm reached a peak of £400 per hr for emergencies.
The normal rate is £80 per hr plus material mark up, the weekend-past 6 pm is double time.
The business is very niche.
Added to that I've taken on a 3-month contract for my DP's company, it's not in my sector but we can pull in an extra £2500 a month. However again, we've been working till 11 pm some nights.

Even DP's company is offering double time to work after contracted hrs to catch up on procurement-buying for the manufacturer. The company she works for cannot find staff despite offering an extra £10,000 on top of current salaries. But it's a heads down bottoms up working environment.
Everybody in my sector is the same.
This inflation is solely down to the global competition for raw materials and goods.

@kerrypeeper

There’s a real problem in our society where self sufficiency and practical skills are ridiculed as something for the peasants.

Completely disagree, I think it's admired if you can knock up your own dress or cushion etc but it's expensive & time consuming.

Dressmaking is not the only practical skill; there's repairing household items, cooking, growing food. Dressmaking is not expensive, by the way.

Dressmaking is not the only practical skill; there's repairing household items, cooking, growing food.

who claimed it was? my point was I don't think possessing those skills mean others look down on you.

Dressmaking is not expensive, by the way.

In your opinion.

Dressmaking is not expensive, by the way.

I sew for a living and dressmaking is most definitely expensive - if I didn't sell my makes no way could I afford to do it as a hobby. It's far cheaper to buy clothes/soft furnishings from Primark/Asda/Matalan.

I trained in fashion in the 80’s.

Dressmaking was really cheap then, much cheaper than buying clothes.

Now it’s horrendously expensive.

Yep, I also used to work in fashion for a high street retailer & I can sew. I know what's cheaper 😆

Dressmaking is NOT cheap - have you SEEN the cost of decent fabrics?

I love the stuff I make… but it would literally be 10th the price at primark.

I wish I could sew. It's a skill I'd love to have.

People receiving ESA or JSA were shafted last year when UC claimants got the £20/week uplift which totalled £1,560 per claimant. A group of disabled ESA claimants took out to court to try to get treated the same as UC claimants and the bushes said the DWP were "justified" in discriminating against the disabled.
We definitely need to protest about treatment like this.
We've got a petition running to try to get the government to pay this money to those who should have received it but didn't. It's not going to resolve the financial problems we're experiencing but for those of us on these pittance benefits who are physically unable to work to improve our own finances, it would help a little when we're trying to repay debts we incurred last year from having to pay extortionate delivery fees etc we normally wouldn't have had to pay.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/608486

@MondaysChild7

I wish I could sew. It's a skill I'd love to have.

If you want to give it a bash, it’s all moved on somewhat from when we were wee. Check out “EllieandMac”, there are a few free patterns there with great instructions and guides - no longer indecipherable code words on tracing paper!

I started with the free vest top and can now make more formal stuff.

Possibly there will be civil unrest.
I would think that certainly there will be a rise in crime.

@lemmein

Dressmaking is not expensive, by the way.

I sew for a living and dressmaking is most definitely expensive - if I didn't sell my makes no way could I afford to do it as a hobby. It's far cheaper to buy clothes/soft furnishings from Primark/Asda/Matalan.

Apologies, I wasn't clear; I buy vintage/second hand fabrics, not new. The quality of Primark/Asda/ Matalan is very poor, so it's not a valid comparison. Better to compare to Toast/John Lewis/Joseph.

@lightand

Out of interest *@NorthbyNorthwest22*, would you mind saying what sorts of things you are doing to prepare? Or dm?

Absolutely. Send me a message if you want to chat about it

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

I trained in fashion in the 80’s.

Dressmaking was really cheap then, much cheaper than buying clothes.

Now it’s horrendously expensive.

I don’t think people realise that compared to salary clothes on the 80s were horrendously expensive.

I bought designer stuff that was well made and I still have in my wardrobe. Dd wears some of it. It worked out less expensive than getting off the peg stuff (some of which wouldn’t last if I was wearing the stuff for work) and a few bits and pieces I think if I sold I would definitely profit from

Most of my clothes shopping went on credit card but in the long run it did save me money. Even with the interest payments

Unfortunately I will never fit into any of it again no matter how much weight I lose.
Don’t know which pregnancy it was but one of my dc pushed the left hand side of my ribcage out when I was pregnant so now when I look in the mirror one side of my ribcage doesn’t look like it belongs. With the other side.

Silly, if you move up north, you will have to find another job

Some of those with a specific skill set and in the private sector are doing very well atm. Salaries and rates for tradespeople are through the roof.

It’s the public sector and minimum wage employees who are getting continuously shafted. Wage increases haven’t matched cost of living rises for years, and it’s getting worse. I will note that this is not the case outside of the UK. So my advice for those people (teachers, nurses) is to emigrate if you can. The UK does not value you, and your skills will be much better appreciated and compensated (in Australia, NZ, US) etc. I know many people who have done this and not a single one regrets the decision.

Yep I could totally grow food outside my housing association flat after ive hired some ppl with pneumatic drills to dig up the car park. Im sure my HA will approve it.