If there was a general election tomorrow and you were an ordinary woman on an average wage..

[Kreuzberg]

Who would you really vote for ? A party wishy washy on self ID and other trans issues with a gobby brash deputy leader who puts her foot in it and a lacking in charisma but well meaning leader or a party that implemented austerity, savage cuts to all public services, oversaw the deaths of 150,000, deceitful, pork barrel politics, corrupt, but with a teflon coated populist leader, plummy voiced slick mps and a less wishy washy stance on self ID (although not necessarily to be trusted)
What is most important to women earning £30,000 who are going to be hugely affected by the spiralling cost of living, struggling to heat their homes, feed their kids ? Issues very much the result of conservative policies like brexit, austerity etc or trans issues ?
I'm not pro self ID but not cat in hells chance I'd ever vote tory either. Their past record is not erased just because they say they know what a woman is. I'm addressing this to average earners too as they are on the front line.

My MP will get in whatever way I vote, but as she didn't give any response to my question about her position on women's rights, I can't vote for her.

I'm prepared to forgive some ambiguity over what is a minefield even in my own home, over the lying corrupt excuse for a government that literally blows billions, gives tax breaks to banks in the worst hike in living costs in my lifetime.

There is no-one,so depressing.

I’ll be voting conservative. Absolutely no way I would vote for labour.

@GCITC

I'd spoil, unless the labour candidate was of the same mind as Rosie Duffield.

This is a good point, it's always worth checking out your local candidate's views.

I want a new political party. One which speaks of and for common sense. A new party which speaks up for the rights of the ordinary person in the street and pushes for a fairer society.

Could any such party exist?

@LaQuern

Labour every single time. I'm sorry but there's bigger issues at stake than self ID.

This current government are a shower who only care about themselves and the wealthy, and they need to go.

Labour. And this is why.

No one.
Can't vote labour.
I'm left wing.
There's no one.

The only difference between the left and the right is the position of the boot upon your throat.

I want to say Labour, but a leader who is swayed by twitter vigilantes, who does not understand my problems because he can not define me is not someone I can vote for.

With regards to all the Conservatives have done poorly, Labour has at best acquiesced but generally supported the Conservatives approach to Covid etc

The reality is that both are drastically out of touch, Kier is as privileged as Boris. Politics fails to reflect or represent the electorate.

My objection to Angela Rayner is not because she's gobby and brash. I quite like that about her.

@MaryAndHerNet

It's like picking between being beaten with a baseball bat or golf club. Either way, you're getting a beating. Which is going to cause the least pain?

Tories: hates poor, ill, disabled, working class etc.
Labour: dislikes women.

Libs are wishy washy, Greens support Channelor.

Voter turn out is going to be incredibly low.

This I've only ever voted Labour. I'm now politically homeless.

@AhNowTed

I'm prepared to forgive some ambiguity over what is a minefield even in my own home, over the lying corrupt excuse for a government that literally blows billions, gives tax breaks to banks in the worst hike in living costs in my lifetime.

This.

Labour

I genuinely believe that a significant portion of the posters on Mumsnet who claim that they could never vote labour because of the trans issue are either posting in bad faith (Привет) or would never vote labour anyway because they are die hard Tories.

A small minority maybe, but I find it hard to believe that the kind of people who would normally vote for labour would now vote for the corrupt and incompetent shitshow we have now just because Kier Starmer wouldn't be drawn on the issue of what is a woman.

A vote for the Tories is a vote for an massive increase in child poverty, which in turn is a vote for a massive increase in child mortality. The figures speak for themselves. Anyone who thinks that the trans issue is more important than children dying from poverty needs their head examined.

It depends how strongly you feel on the issues op

People will feel strongly on different things

Perhaps it comes down to who you really can’t vote for

Tories as an anti-snp vote. Not sure if I’m England, but probably the same.

I’d vote for whoever was most likely to beat the tory mp locally. Anyone.

Nobody represents me. There really is nobody left.

I'll spoil my ballot paper for the first time in over 20 years.

Have labour actually got any policies? We are still paying off the billions from Tony Blairs PFI and Labour haven't been in power for over a decade. After the last 2 years we have billions to pay back from 2 years of lockdowns, furlough, NHS, Covid etc. Money doesn't grow on trees so where in cloud cuckoo land do you think its all coming from?

@Nearlyeaster88

Boris might be a pillock but there's no way I'm voting labour as they currently stand.

PM Johnson is not a pillock, he's a devious, self serving, manipulative cunt who can spin on a sixpence and doesn't know the meaning of integrity or honesty.

Who would you really vote for?

Whoever replies to the question "What is a woman?" with the answer: "Adult human female".

I think, under the circumstances Labour is the only valid choice. We have more people die due to either hypothermia or malnutrition per annum, than the Scandinavian countries. The majority being elderly or disabled. And yet there are people saying Starmer doesn’t know what a woman is. You are people who seem to be unaware that there is a system of debate within the party. This will be looked at at some point. But at the moment bills are going up, utilities, petrol, and food, so the figures last year of those that died from hypothermia and malnutrition are going to double, but it’s okay, we’ll let the Tories carry on shoring up the economy to their advantage because they know what a woman is. Nice.

@chisanunian

Who would you really vote for?

Whoever replies to the question "What is a woman?" with the answer: "Adult human female".

So you're a single issue voter and all other policies are irrelevant?

@Gilead

I think, under the circumstances Labour is the only valid choice. We have more people die due to either hypothermia or malnutrition per annum, than the Scandinavian countries. The majority being elderly or disabled. And yet there are people saying Starmer doesn’t know what a woman is. You are people who seem to be unaware that there is a system of debate within the party. This will be looked at at some point. But at the moment bills are going up, utilities, petrol, and food, so the figures last year of those that died from hypothermia and malnutrition are going to double, but it’s okay, we’ll let the Tories carry on shoring up the economy to their advantage because they know what a woman is. Nice.

Well said.

Would you rather eat a dog-shit sandwich or a cat-shit sandwich?

Neither.

I live in a Labour stronghold, I'll be spoiling my ballot with stickers.