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Ukraine-invasion-part-16

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PestorPeston · 22/03/2022 23:46

Warsaw Russian is letting out a lot of smoke - there has been no decision on who among them will be the next pontiff.

Biden is going there Friday

Is Boris Johnson the designated survivor?

Who the heck let me be in charge?

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TargusEasting · 26/03/2022 12:07

From before - Lavrov’s in the Kremlin garden explaining to Putin that the spare set of nuclear console keys are in his other trouser pocket. Not only that, but in the pair he left back at the flat in London.

Putin: “But you have no London flat no more. Do you not read the flipping news?”

Lavrov: “What news? We’re not allowed any. Anyway it's 'no flat anymore', if you say no flat no more, it means you have one.”

Putin: “Never mind. Look, get on a plane to China. They sold us the keys so get them to cut a spare. No cheap tin mind. It needs to be steel tell them. 100% steel, no cheap alloy.”

An hour later Lavrov’s on a plane to China. The steward asks him if he would like coffee. Suddenly distracted, Lavrov’s face drops. “Oh fuck, oh fuckitty-fuck” he whispers to himself. “I think I left the iron on in the apartment. And, did I close the bathroom window?”

In mid-flight, Lavrov's plane does a sharp u-turn so Lavrov can go home, check the gas hasn’t been left on, that his goldfish has been fed and the tap in the bathroom sink is not overflowing.

Meanwhile Putin has scheduled a video conference with the Kremlin.

Putin: “Good afternoon. I have called you all here today to inform you of our next strategic move in the Balkans.”

Gerasimov: “Do you mean Donbass?”

Putin: “Yes, we can include the Donbass too. Why not.”

Peskov: “Is Shoigy joining us?”

Putin: “He sends his apologies. Unfortunately he died.”

Zakharova: “Oh no…. When?”

Putin: “Tomorrow.”

Gerasimov: “Dmitry (Peskov), perhaps you could provide an update on how our latest actions have been perceived in the West.”

Peskov’s moustached lips start to move, but nobody hears a thing. Just silence.

Zakharova: “Oh look…he hasn’t got his sound on. He’s gone onto mute.”

Putin waves to Peskov, sticks his fingers in his ears mouthing “You. Are. On. Mute.”

Peskov fiddles with his device. Sound is restored and he starts talking. As he does so a stripey cat’s head suddenly appears in front of the screen, then its body and finally its tail as it walks across his desk. “Rocco, put your tail down” says Peskov.

Putin: “Oh FFS, what now! The might, power and future of the Motherland is held to ransom by Dmitry’s fucking cat.”

Just at that point, Putin’s office door bursts open. His latest toddler daughter saunters in, lightly striding up to the desk, swinging her elbows out, hair in pig tails, wearing a bright blue and yellow jumper….followed by her baby brother crashing through the door in his stroller coming to join the party…as Vlads latest wife skids in through behind desperately trying to drag the kids back out again….

MagicFox · 26/03/2022 12:12

"Dmitry Medvedev just announced the death of the unipolar world order and clarified Russia's conditions for nuclear weapons use" @samramani2

Thread: twitter.com/samramani2/status/1507660260399583233?s=21&t=AuBslU18mKQ0UaHjSPt0EA

Igotjelly · 26/03/2022 12:20

[quote MagicFox]"Dmitry Medvedev just announced the death of the unipolar world order and clarified Russia's conditions for nuclear weapons use" @samramani2

Thread: twitter.com/samramani2/status/1507660260399583233?s=21&t=AuBslU18mKQ0UaHjSPt0EA[/quote]
This thread makes me feel really daft. Surely ‘an attack on Russia’ is so wide that this barely clarifies anything?

RedToothBrush · 26/03/2022 12:28

China supplies Pakistan's military
Russia supplies India's

If China and Russia are on the same side, does that mean India and Pakistan are too?

I'm not sure I quite buy it.

Also that suggests that Russia and China are somehow on an equal status. I'm not convinced at that.

Given Medvedev's barely coherent rant about Poland the other day, I remain unconvinced that he is in touch with actual reality.

RedToothBrush · 26/03/2022 12:29

Russia planning to use chemical weapons, and trying to use nukes as a way to put off cyber attacks?

TargusEasting · 26/03/2022 12:30

Good luck to Russia getting its broadband and IT systems from China. that's enough to cause a revolution in itself.

MagicFox · 26/03/2022 12:30

Chinese state media is being very pro Russia and anti-nato, talking about nato aggression in Serbia. I don't like this

RedToothBrush · 26/03/2022 12:33

Jack Detsch @jackdetsch
NEW: Ukraine's "robust" air defenses has limited Russian manned flights and is leading to greater attrition of 🇷🇺 drones: UK Defense Intel

The UK has sanctioned 65 🇷🇺 individuals & entities on Friday including Kronshtadt, a major Russian drone producer.

elephantmarchingin · 26/03/2022 12:35

Why the sudden shift though re nuclear. It's been quiet on that front for a few days

shreddednips · 26/03/2022 12:39

@RedToothBrush

China supplies Pakistan's military Russia supplies India's

If China and Russia are on the same side, does that mean India and Pakistan are too?

I'm not sure I quite buy it.

Also that suggests that Russia and China are somehow on an equal status. I'm not convinced at that.

Given Medvedev's barely coherent rant about Poland the other day, I remain unconvinced that he is in touch with actual reality.

No I don't buy that, and aren't relations pretty tense between China and India at the moment as well? If you read it from the point of view of a domestic audience, I think it's more to reassure Russians that Russia has powerful allies and will cope just fine completely cut off from the west.
Ijsbear · 26/03/2022 12:42

Russia mentions nuclear regularly just to make sure we haven't forgotten them, to keep us worried and to keep us against having a no-fly zone.

They keep mentioning it to make sure we stay scared. Us panicking is in their interests.

shreddednips · 26/03/2022 12:44

@elephantmarchingin

Why the sudden shift though re nuclear. It's been quiet on that front for a few days
I don't think this is a significant shift, they like to remind us they have nukes every now and then.
Ijsbear · 26/03/2022 12:44

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60807538 Another general killed.

elephantmarchingin · 26/03/2022 12:47

@Ijsbear

Russia mentions nuclear regularly just to make sure we haven't forgotten them, to keep us worried and to keep us against having a no-fly zone.

They keep mentioning it to make sure we stay scared. Us panicking is in their interests.

Wondering if it is in light on this humanitarian mission that keeps cropping up
Igotjelly · 26/03/2022 12:47

Think too it needs to be viewed in the context of the media reports of Russia withdrawing (v. Premature!) and having failed etc etc. only response they really have that holds water is “yeh but nukes!)

Ijsbear · 26/03/2022 12:51

everyone's very exited about the Russian failures - I'm concerned we may be being over-hopeful.

notimagain · 26/03/2022 12:53

@Ijsbear

everyone's very exited about the Russian failures - I'm concerned we may be being over-hopeful.
Know what you mean.

I think generally the picture is too confused to work out accurately what is going on.

borntobequiet · 26/03/2022 12:57

@Ijsbear

@ DGRossetti what's a DUP?

@TargusEasting excellent :D

I think this is what’s being referred to inews.co.uk/news/politics/big-tranche-dup-deal-money-12-6-billion-direct-rule-ni-budget-133454
sleepyhoglet · 26/03/2022 12:59

Russia aren't going to 'fail'. I mean they might not have achieved what the set out to but they will move the goalposts and somehow make up propaganda to make it seem they got what they wanted after all. I can't see Putin backing down. In fact the more they are perceived to have failed by the west, the worst the overall outcome will probably be. There is no good solution to this sadly

Ijsbear · 26/03/2022 13:04

No, there isn't. Not for Russia either. With the iron grip on media and the silencing of all dissent, unless something breaks and leaders with a different attitude get into power then there's going to be a strong increasing antagonistic attitude to the West for a long time to come.

To repeat what's been said before, the trauma in Ukraine is going to pass down generations too. Just seen the report of the man who got out of the car and was shot in front of his 6yo son. The boy's mother died too.

Putin's actions have created a loathing of Russia within Ukraine that will bring nothing good.

toastfiend · 26/03/2022 13:09

@elephantmarchingin

Why the sudden shift though re nuclear. It's been quiet on that front for a few days
It's not a sudden shift. They just don't want us thinking the threat has passed and getting over confident so they wheel out a politician to make a thinly veiled threat once a week or so just to keep us at the appropriate level of fear for them to feel they can continue unchecked. I'm not worried about this latest bit of rhetoric - it's a threat, yes, but not a direct one and I don't think it's indicative that they're planning an imminent attack, it's just a little rattle of the sabre in light of the fact that they seem to be taking a bit of a direction shift after failing to achieve their original goals. They're just remind us they're there and that they view them as a valid option.
TiddyTidTwo · 26/03/2022 13:10

Contrary to my post yesterday with Biden talking to the troops I thought his speech delivered to the Polish president was very good and certainly, very strongly made the message re NATO and the alliance.

PaperTyger · 26/03/2022 13:10

Targus, fabulous injection of satire into the thread Grin

You didn't have issue's with a tuxedo/ drinks and a mil recently did you?

PaperTyger · 26/03/2022 13:13

Ljsbear agree.
Unless Russia turns democratic, helps rebuild.. reparations etc and I'm sure after this Ukraine will be concentrating on having the biggest military they can.
Conscription and so on and maybe even nuke's

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 26/03/2022 13:32

I have just been reading this thread on 'dedovshchina' the extreme form of hazing that goes on in the Russian military. Presumably it's to break their spirit and turn them into machines that can commit atrocities without breaking much of a sweat.

Makes for very dark reading.

twitter.com/zoyashef/status/1507524865959788545

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