Asked someone to move from the disabled bay

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

No real point to the thread really. But today instead of us driving off and trying to find somewhere else to park in our town, dp stopped and told someone who was just sat in a disabled bay with the engine idling with no badge to move (nicely). The guy did move and pulled up further along. We were able to park up with a much shorter walk!

Why do people think it's ok to park in disabled bays when they don't need them? We would have normally just driven off and I would have possibly had to have stopped in the car if it was too far for me to walk. People don't seem to care their actions have concequences.

As for accessible facilties most places it’s little more than a tick box exercise. I very much doubt any consultation with those who use it takes place.

Ds is a part time wheelchair user. There are accessible toilets where it’s hard to get his child sized wheelchair and me in so mind boggles how adults cope!

[quote Theremoresefulday]@JetRocket you are being very ableist in your comments.

It is perfectly fine for me to park in a parent and child space and not in the least hypocritical for me to object to those without a blue badge parking in blue badge spaces.[/quote]
I've reported their last post. Disgusting.

Posted to soon.

It won’t be in the terms and conditions of the car park.

It’s in the actual law of the country.

They don’t care I have a blue badge I also have a newborn. I normally go for the blue badge spaces as there nearer normally. On good days people wouldn’t know I need it but it’s hit and miss .

It drives me mad at times when there’s nowhere else to park without walking very far.

@Valaris

I'm only 30 with a BB and a part time wheelchair user. Some days are better than others. Luckily no one has challenged me yet but I'd probably burst into tears if they did.

Behind disabled is hard enough without having nowhere to park

It's horrid. This is why I would normally not call someone out. But I was having a really bad day and DP really saw it. I'm in my early 30s and I've had a badge since my early 20s. Peoples stares really cut deep sometimes.

Reasonable adjustment means if they did try to fine a blue badge holder (or even someone who is disabled but doesn’t qualify for a blue badge) for parking there they wouldn’t get far!

@daisypond

I know it’s not exactly the same thing but I get really annoyed with people doing this with parent child bays.

It’s not the same at all. Parent and child bays should be stopped.

how pray tell are people supposed to get car seats in and out of cars in normal skinny bays?

@JetRocket, I'd give it a rest now if I were you. You're making yourself look very uneducated about something that the vast majority of people know about, never mind the thinly veiled attacks on posters.

P+C spaces are a courtesy and not a right. Yes they might make your life a bit easier, but in a few years you won't need them at all, and you have chosen to have children. Don't start at me about people not choosing to be a parent, because that's an extreme and rare example. You are not special because you have a baby.

Disabled people don't magically get better. They need reasonable adjustments all the time. Not being able to park means they might not be able to access things and it's an ongoing issue. These situations are not comparable and it's so tiresome to try to bring them together all the time. It's just guaranteed with every BB thread.

I often get challenged when pull up especially as I drive a large adapter Van which is obviously commercial size

To point I was accused of lying and blocked in despite me pointing at blue badge and offering to point out my wheelchair in back as apparently I can't be a wheelchair user and drive a large VAN

I do drive abet with hand controls

One blocked in other went of to get the manager 20 mins later He came out apologised replaced all my defrosted shopping and dealt with them

Other times get told ask the driver to drop of and park elsewhere and have to prove that I'm the driver and blue badge holder

I have had the most abuse or rubbish parking insist parking right up to my baxk doors even though large sign saying extending ramp and they not even in proper space and sadly it's other blue badge holders that do it most the time

It’s section 20 of the equality act @JetRocket

@FindingMeno

And....I've posted on the wrong thread....

😂😂

@Theremoresefulday

It’s not ableist to ask a question you genuinely would like to know the answer to, in order to help you understand. I’ve not been offensive in any way unlike many of the very small minded anti parent comments that have been made.

I have no issue with a disabled person parking in a parent child space but a quick google suggests that it’s actually not a ‘right’ to do so and that a private car park essentially makes its own rules. Even as a reasonable adjustment. The only guidance I can find from CAB suggests on private land you should complain to the shop/business if their BB bays are inadequate to meet need.
Council owned property and public roads are very different and there are clear ‘rights’ for them.

Again, I think it’s reasonable to do…but building an argument on ‘I have a right to park in the p&c that is the crucial difference’ seems a bit null and void if it’s not actually a right.

I was actually very curious to know, it was one of those things you always think but aren’t sure the legalities of.

The disabled parking spaces at our local Asda are in front of Costa and Greggs, so a lot of people park there without a badge. It seems to be mostly males who drive German cars. I have noticed several cars parked there displaying keyworker badges. I'm pretty sure they weren't intended for that.

[quote JetRocket]@Theremoresefulday

It’s not ableist to ask a question you genuinely would like to know the answer to, in order to help you understand. I’ve not been offensive in any way unlike many of the very small minded anti parent comments that have been made.

I have no issue with a disabled person parking in a parent child space but a quick google suggests that it’s actually not a ‘right’ to do so and that a private car park essentially makes its own rules. Even as a reasonable adjustment. The only guidance I can find from CAB suggests on private land you should complain to the shop/business if their BB bays are inadequate to meet need.
Council owned property and public roads are very different and there are clear ‘rights’ for them.

Again, I think it’s reasonable to do…but building an argument on ‘I have a right to park in the p&c that is the crucial difference’ seems a bit null and void if it’s not actually a right.

I was actually very curious to know, it was one of those things you always think but aren’t sure the legalities of.[/quote]
It is my right to do so enshrined in law.

Your quick google is wrong.

@FazedNotPhased

Why do people always bring up P+C spaces on these threads, as if your decision to have a baby is somehow comparable to being disabled

I'd say disabled spaces are a necessity, without them some disabled people/parents of disabled children/carers would really struggle to go about normal business that the rest of us find quite simple. P&C spaces are simply a convenience, they make life easier of course, but most parents can function without them (and many did until they became a 'thing'). I also think that disabled badge holders should be allowed to use P&C spaces if all the disabled bays are taken, and if they are closer to wherever they are going, but the reverse situation definitely isn't acceptable!

[quote JetRocket]@Theremoresefulday

It’s not ableist to ask a question you genuinely would like to know the answer to, in order to help you understand. I’ve not been offensive in any way unlike many of the very small minded anti parent comments that have been made.

I have no issue with a disabled person parking in a parent child space but a quick google suggests that it’s actually not a ‘right’ to do so and that a private car park essentially makes its own rules. Even as a reasonable adjustment. The only guidance I can find from CAB suggests on private land you should complain to the shop/business if their BB bays are inadequate to meet need.
Council owned property and public roads are very different and there are clear ‘rights’ for them.

Again, I think it’s reasonable to do…but building an argument on ‘I have a right to park in the p&c that is the crucial difference’ seems a bit null and void if it’s not actually a right.

I was actually very curious to know, it was one of those things you always think but aren’t sure the legalities of.[/quote]
Your Google is broken. As a BB holder I can also park on some roads with double yellow lines.

Anti parent. You're full of it. I'm a mother of 2.

how pray tell are people supposed to get car seats in and out of cars in normal skinny bays?

Don't get the car seat put at all and use a pushchair/pram? If you're at the supermarket and need hands free for a trolley then use a sling or use one of the trolleys that has the reclined infant seat? It's not good for babies to be in car seats any longer than necessary anyway but if you must take it out then find a space where you will have room to do so such as the end of a row where you know no one will be able to park next to you on one side.

Right ok fair enough there is 100% absolutely not a single similarity between p&c and BB bays.

BB bays are protected by law and are provided for people who meet specific conditions (I.e., disabled and the bolder of a blue badge), provision of a BB bay is essential for many badge holders as without it they could not access the facilities available at that particular venue.

P&C parking is a courtesy. It is something that is nice to have when it is provided and there is a space available but it is not essential and P&C users have other options if a P&C space is not available. They are not protected by law.

Disability is a protected characteristic, parenthood is not.