Asked someone to move from the disabled bay

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

No real point to the thread really. But today instead of us driving off and trying to find somewhere else to park in our town, dp stopped and told someone who was just sat in a disabled bay with the engine idling with no badge to move (nicely). The guy did move and pulled up further along. We were able to park up with a much shorter walk!

Why do people think it's ok to park in disabled bays when they don't need them? We would have normally just driven off and I would have possibly had to have stopped in the car if it was too far for me to walk. People don't seem to care their actions have concequences.

@FazedNotPhased

Why do people always bring up P+C spaces on these threads, as if your decision to have a baby is somehow comparable to being disabled

It's an analogy, not a comparison. Both are spaces designed for a specific purpose. Both are use incorrectly sometimes. Pointing that out and the frustration it causes does not mean that the PP thinks they are similar.

@Sirzy

P and C spaces are great if available. Very handy.

But the need For them is nowhere near comparable to the need for blue badge spaces.

This is what I was trying to get at.

I have the right to use a P&C space without having a child with me.

A parent does not have the right to use a disabled space without a blue badge.

That’s a crucial difference.

They are not analogous.

Have you any idea what it takes to get a blue badge?

@JetRocket

I know it’s not exactly the same thing but I get really annoyed with people doing this with parent child bays. Because you don’t need a badge they’ll actually just park in them and go in shopping. Usually because they have massive fancy cars. With a toddler and baby, on my own, double pram and two bulky car seats its so hard to park in a normal bay as there’s a 99% chance I won’t be able to get them in/out upon return as people will pull up close to my doors. It makes an already hard task feeling so defeating and overwhelming.

Parking in bays that others rely on, just because you’re lazy, is never ok.

Not only not the same thing, it isn't anything like!

@Hoppinggreen

I turfed someone out of a disabled bay who walked with a stick for my Mum who literally can’t stand at all. I asked if he was a blue badge holder and he said no so I politely pointed out that the spaces were for blue badge holders. He said he walked with a stick so I suggested that long term he should look into applying for a Blue Badge but for now he needed to move. He grumbled a bit but did move. If there had been another space we could have used I probably wouldn’t have bothered but we needed a disabled space to have room to transfer my mum to the wheelchair I would happily do it again

You had no right to do that. Yes you're correct in what you observed and said but you have zero authority to force that poor man to move. Yes he was technically in the wrong but the poor man WAS disabled. Have a bloody heart.

Sincerely,
Blue badge holder who gets their window tapped on EVERY. SINGLE. TIME due to being well under the age of 60 and have a child - therefore must be chancing it, apparently. Despite blue badge permanently attached to dashboard

@iwanttobeonleave

I recently saw a mum from school who I had previously completely respected park in a disabled bay. It's completely changed my view of her. What reasonable person would do this?!

Do you know for certain that she didn't have a blue badge? I say this as I'm a 'mum from school' with a 6yr old and can walk limp. However I also have Multiple Schlerosis along with 6 other conditions and a fully legit blue badge! One of the school mums always shook her head at me every time she saw me pull up in the disabled bay at school until I shoved my badge in her face. School have had over 60 complaints in 3 years about me 'taking up the Disabled Bay'

Because of course, you can't fit TWO stereotypes now can we?! A mummy AND disabled? - 🤯🤯🤯

@Mudflaps

I'm a permit holder and park behind them blocking them in, works a treat.

I SINCERELY hope you have PROOF there's no badge before you do this! Every one of us legit blue badge holders has forgotten to display our badge on more than one occasion! To the point where I've blu-tac'd mine in place!!!!!

@Bagelsandbrie Exactly the same here. It's horrendous isn't it?

[quote GrannytoaUnicorn]@Bagelsandbrie Exactly the same here. It's horrendous isn't it? [/quote]
It really is. Threads like this almost make me scared to use my blue badge! So many judgemental types about…!

I wonder if anyone can beat what I saw today. I pulled in to the last available BB space, and my other half noticed the car next to us where the occupants were acting strangely. We both watched the young couple in their 20's getting out, giggling away as the man stuck on a parking fine to their window. I asked DP what they were doing that for, and he said they didn't have a blue badge, so it was clearly so the parking attendants wouldn't (hopefully!) give them one assuming that they had already been ticketed. I couldn't believe it! The man and woman were clearly worrying that we'd seen it, as they kept looking our way. The man came back out after they had gone in to the shop looking at what we were doing.
Unfortunately there was sod all we could do about it, as there was no one around, no signage near, and we were on a timed entry to an event. I'd have removed it except that the risk was to my own car as they would know it was us...

That is shocking.

@GrannytoaUnicorn people are idiots
How can they report someone with a badge displayed

@ThisMustBeMyDream

I wonder if anyone can beat what I saw today. I pulled in to the last available BB space, and my other half noticed the car next to us where the occupants were acting strangely. We both watched the young couple in their 20's getting out, giggling away as the man stuck on a parking fine to their window. I asked DP what they were doing that for, and he said they didn't have a blue badge, so it was clearly so the parking attendants wouldn't (hopefully!) give them one assuming that they had already been ticketed. I couldn't believe it! The man and woman were clearly worrying that we'd seen it, as they kept looking our way. The man came back out after they had gone in to the shop looking at what we were doing. Unfortunately there was sod all we could do about it, as there was no one around, no signage near, and we were on a timed entry to an event. I'd have removed it except that the risk was to my own car as they would know it was us...

Bastards. I hope the car park had CCTV. I'd have said take a photo and report to the council, but like you say you don't know what they'd do to your car if they saw you take a picture

@GrannytoaUnicorn, I've been in exactly that position - I've even been shouted at. The BB is DC's, not mine....
Several years on, I now channel cold fury and remind them that if they think I'm doing anything wrong, they can report me.
Usually they shut their mouths and leave sharpish.

[quote Moneypennysfreedomfund]@SpookyScarySkeletons

Were you able to report that cerebrally deprived creature?

Our council also does mad things like not put a dropped kerb next to bays on the high street, so get dh out and then have to push him in the road facing oncoming traffic to reach the speed bump which allows me to push him up the bump and then is level with the pavement. Let’s not even go near sharply dropped kerbs that his electric wheelchair ( which is a serious bit of kit) cannot negotiate.

All town planners etc should spend one week in a wheelchair to understand the issues. I’d also remove the toenails of anyone misusing disabled bays, there aren’t enough of them and it is purely selfish behaviour.[/quote]
@Moneypennysfreedomfund nobody around to report to unfortunately. I did post it on local Facebook groups though to hopefully shame them!!

Know what you mean about access. I've only been in my chair for almost a year and you don't realise the lack of thought from planners and business owners.

The local pub that had reopened after lockdown but had blocked the only disabled access off as they could only have one entry point.

The venue for our work Christmas party who claimed amazing disabled access but had three steps up to the only door. N.b have an accessible toilet does not mean you are "disability friendly"

My new work office that installed a disabled toilet. Upstairs. On the first floor. There is no lift.

Rant over lol.

No @JetRocket.

I am legally allowed to park in a parent and child space as a reasonable adjustment for my disability (which I do if the disabled spaces are all occupied).

A parent is not allowed to park in a blue badge space without a blue badge.

That’s why I park in them. Because I’m allowed.

That’s the difference

Lots of people recover from major surgery. They should all be able to park in the best space for them (other than blue badge unless they have one) so in that sense the fact it’s a mother is completely irrelevant!

[quote JetRocket]@AllThingsServeTheBeam

It's an analogy, not a comparison. Both are spaces designed for a specific purpose. Both are use incorrectly sometimes

This^ Saying something is similar means they have a one or more traits in common which p&c and disabled bays do! They are however not the same which I fully acknowledged from the very start. A tractor and a Ferrari have similarities without being the same damn thing.
I have no idea why that gets peoples backs up or makes you feel justified to say crappy insensitive things like no one needs a p&c space which btw is why I’m directing this at you as far as I can see no one else went quite far far.
I bet you’d be quick to call out a new mum recovering from major surgery (c-section) for parking in one of your bays so yes it seems like a nasty way to think. Also massively hypocritical to condemn others for parking in spaces not attributed to them but admit you’ll happily park in parent and child spaces. It seems you consider your own need much more than you’re willing to offer compassion or understanding for anyone else’s.[/quote]
Can you please read my posts? I am entitled to park in C&P spaces as a disabled badge owner if there are no disabled bays free. Hth.

I have the right to use a P&C space without having a child with me. A parent does not have the right to use a disabled space without a blue badge. That’s a crucial difference

I’m curious about this so hope you don’t mind me asking. Is this actually a thing? I’ve never heard of it in any private car park like supermarkets…etc I once sat reading the entire ‘terms of use’ sign in my local supermarket whilst breast feeding DD and it didn’t mention anything about this.
Personally I think it’s reasonable but I didn’t know it was an actual established ‘right’?

@Theremoresefulday

@JetRocket you are being very ableist in your comments.

It is perfectly fine for me to park in a parent and child space and not in the least hypocritical for me to object to those without a blue badge parking in blue badge spaces.

I'm only 30 with a BB and a part time wheelchair user. Some days are better than others. Luckily no one has challenged me yet but I'd probably burst into tears if they did.

Behind disabled is hard enough without having nowhere to park

@JetRocket

I have the right to use a P&C space without having a child with me. A parent does not have the right to use a disabled space without a blue badge. That’s a crucial difference

I’m curious about this so hope you don’t mind me asking. Is this actually a thing? I’ve never heard of it in any private car park like supermarkets…etc I once sat reading the entire ‘terms of use’ sign in my local supermarket whilst breast feeding DD and it didn’t mention anything about this.
Personally I think it’s reasonable but I didn’t know it was an actual established ‘right’?

Yes it is actually a thing.

It’s in the equality act and everything.