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Help! My son uttered the words I've been dreading...

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delightly · 10/12/2021 16:10

He came in from school, sat down beside me and said "By the way, I think you and Dad are Santa. You drink the milk and eat the mince pie. Plus the tooth fairy isn't real either, I think you put the money down and do whatever with the tooth".

He's 8. And he said it all in front of his 5 year old brother!! FML. Then he dissected put the kibosh on the Easter bunny Hmm

I have read many threads about this on here over the years and had this moment all planned.... and then went to complete pieces when it actually happened

He's started questioning everything, we've watched a few movies lately and he's talking about how it's not real with green screens and it's actors pretending such and such. He's been pretty cynical in general lately!

What should I do?? I remember when I was starting to question Santa and my stepmum confirmed it right away which was devastating, I still remember how gutted I was!

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TheFreaksShallInheritTheEarth · 13/12/2021 08:40

@FauxPsychic I totally agree.
I can't conceive of a parent or child being 'devastated' about the child's realisation that Santa isn't real.
If you've set something up over the years that will devastate your child at some point then frankly you've done it wrong; if you're upset yourself about your child no longer believing then you need to learn children growing up, learning to think critically and making better sense of the world is a good thing. It's what they're supposed to do.

Newbabynewhouse · 13/12/2021 13:10

Aww i think 8 is still young... maybe you can leave him guessing a bit..so its not confirmed but you're also not lying x

ZoeCM · 13/12/2021 15:32

@Babdoc, Easter and Christmas are actually pagan festivals that were hijacked by Christians! It's a bit hypocritical to complain about them being hijacked by Santa and the Easter Bunny.

There is no disappointment in Jesus

When I learned at school that dinosaurs had already died millions of years before the first humans existed (meaning that the Biblical story of creation is untrue) I felt the same disappointment that I did when I learned the truth about Santa Claus. I still remember thinking, "Well, God and Jesus and Adam and Eve must all be characters that grown-ups invented, just like Santa."

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HeadPain · 13/12/2021 16:08

You could teach him about the tradition and where it came from

HeadPain · 13/12/2021 16:08

You could teach him about the tradition and where it came from

nomoneytree · 13/12/2021 16:13

If you don't believe he doesn't come in my house. I don't think any of them believe any more, but we don't admit it.

HeadPain · 13/12/2021 16:35

[quote delightly]@allOnatree As a child, I was devastated to have it confirmed.[/quote]
Me too tbh. My mum was very blunt about it. "Of course he's not real"

HeadPain · 13/12/2021 17:11

"hijacked by Santa..."

"Santa" means Saint. "Claus" is short for Nicholas. Santa is Saint Nicholas...

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

"Saint Nicholas of Myra[a] (traditionally 15 March 270 – 6 December 343),[3][4][b] also known as Nicholas of Bari, was an early Christian bishop of Greek descent from the maritime city of Myra in Asia Minor (Greek: Μύρα; modern-day Demre, Turkey) during the time of the Roman Empire. [7][8] Because of the many miracles attributed to his intercession, he is also known as Nicholas the Wonderworker. [c] Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of sailors, merchants, archers, repentant thieves, children, brewers, pawnbrokers, unmarried people, and students in various cities and countries around Europe. His reputation evolved among the pious, as was common for early Christian saints, and his legendary habit of secret gift-giving gave rise to the traditional model of Santa Claus ("Saint Nick") through Sinterklaas."

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

"Santa Claus, also known as Father Christmas, Saint Nicholas, Saint Nick, Kris Kringle, or simply Santa, is a legendary[1] character originating in Western Christian culture who is said to bring gifts on Christmas Eve of toys and candy to well-behaved children,[2] and either coal or nothing to naughty children. He is said to accomplish this with the aid of Christmas elves, who make the toys in his workshop at the North Pole, and flying reindeer who pull his sleigh through the air.[3][4] The modern character of Santa is based on traditions surrounding the historical Saint Nicholas, the English figure of Father Christmas and the Dutch figure of Sinterklaas."

"Saint Nicholas was a 4th-century Greek Christian bishop of Myra (now Demre) in the region of Lycia in the Roman Empire, today in Turkey. Nicholas was famous for his generous gifts to the poor [...]
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During the Middle Ages, often on the evening before his name day of 6 December, children were bestowed gifts in his honour. This date was earlier than the original day of gifts for the children, which moved in the course of the Reformation and its opposition to the veneration of saints in many countries on 24 and 25 December. The custom of gifting to children at Christmas has been propagated by Martin Luther as an alternative to the previous very popular gift custom on St. Nicholas, to focus the interest of the children to Christ instead of the veneration of saints. Martin Luther first suggested the Christkind as the bringer of gifts. But Nicholas remained popular as gifts bearer for the people.[11][12][13]"

"Father Christmas dates back as far as 16th century in England during the reign of Henry VIII, when he was pictured as a large man in green or scarlet robes lined with fur.[14] He typified the spirit of good cheer at Christmas, bringing peace, joy, good food and wine and revelry. [14] As England no longer kept the feast day of Saint Nicholas on 6 December, the Father Christmas celebration was moved to 25 December to coincide with Christmas Day. [14] The Victorian revival of Christmas included Father Christmas as the emblem of good cheer.[15] His physical appearance was variable,[16] with one famous image being John Leech's illustration of the "Ghost of Christmas Present" in Charles Dickens's festive classic A Christmas Carol (1843), as a great genial man in a green coat lined with fur who takes Scrooge through the bustling streets of London on the current Christmas morning, sprinkling the essence of Christmas onto the happy populace.[14][15] "

"In the Netherlands and Belgium, the character of Santa Claus competes with that of Sinterklaas, based on Saint Nicolas. Santa Claus is known as de Kerstman in Dutch ("the Christmas man") and Père Noël ("Father Christmas") in French. For children in the Netherlands, Sinterklaas remains the predominant gift-giver in December; 36% of the Dutch only give presents on Sinterklaas evening or the day itself, 6 December,[17] while Christmas, 25 December, is used by another 21% to give presents. Some 26% of the Dutch population gives presents on both days.[18] In Belgium, presents are offered exclusively to children on 6 December, and on Christmas Day all ages may receive presents. Saint Nicolas/Sinterklaas' assistants are called "Zwarte Pieten" (in Dutch) or "Père Fouettard" (in French), so they are not elves.[19] In Switzerland, Père Fouettard accompanies Père Noël in the French speaking region, while the sinister Schmutzli accompanies Samichlaus in the Swiss German region. Schmutzli carries a twig broom to spank the naughty children.[20] "

"Prior to Christianization, the Germanic peoples (including the English) celebrated a midwinter event called Yule (Old English geola or giuli).[21] With the Christianization of Germanic Europe, numerous traditions were absorbed from Yuletide celebrations into modern Christmas.[22] During this period, supernatural and ghostly occurrences were said to increase in frequency, such as the Wild Hunt, a ghostly procession through the sky.[citation needed] The leader of the Wild Hunt is frequently attested as the god Odin (Wodan), bearing (among many names) the names Jólnir, meaning "Yule figure", and Langbarðr, meaning "long-beard", in Old Norse.[23]

Wodan's role during the Yuletide period has been theorized as having influenced concepts of St. Nicholas in a variety of facets, including his long white beard and his gray horse for nightly rides (compare Odin's horse Sleipnir) or his reindeer in North American tradition.[24] Folklorist Margaret Baker maintains that "the appearance of Santa Claus or Father Christmas, whose day is the 25th of December, owes much to Odin, the old blue-hooded, cloaked, white-bearded Giftbringer of the north, who rode the midwinter sky on his eight-footed steed Sleipnir, visiting his people with gifts. Odin, transformed into Father Christmas, then Santa Claus, prospered with St Nicholas and the Christchild, became a leading player on the Christmas stage."[25]

In Finland, Santa Claus is called Joulupukki (direct translation 'Christmas Goat').[26] The flying reindeer could symbolize the use of fly agaric by Sámi shamans.[27]" Hmm

HeyMoana · 13/12/2021 17:40

Deny, deny, deny. My mum has never told me and I’m 41.

Beverley71 · 15/12/2021 14:36

I’d say something along the lines of ‘he doesn’t come if you don’t believe, do you want to risk that?’ And take it from there.

Guacamole001 · 15/12/2021 14:43

I told ds when he was 8 though he did look quite disappointed. Sweet.

duckme · 15/12/2021 14:49

@IAAP

We’ve never had the conversation she’s 14.
I'm going on 16 years now. Obviously she knows the truth. She helps me wrap the presents and whatever, but I'm never going to actually say the words to her. She never asks either.
Chakraleaf · 15/12/2021 16:52

Same as above. Mine have never actually had the convo. They just know! No big deal

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