Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty?

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How? He shot 2 people dead in front of witnesses, but apparently it was "self defence"?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/19/kyle-rittenhouse-verdict-kenosha-shooting?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

Maybe it's just my phone but it's linking to a sad story about a doctor who died from covid.

Eh?

So now it's fine for Medium to publish untruths, deliberate or inadvertent?

Although of course a terrible thing for what you refer to as "legacy media" to do so.

Also
If their subscribers feel they have been lied to they will unsub.

If you believe that, I have four bridges and an overripe mango to sell you.

Very large numbers of people really aren't too bothered about being lied to. Right up to the moment something impacts their own comfort zone.

If they were bothered about liars, the Daily Mail would have gone bust years ago instead of being highly financially successful.

The canonical example in the UK is The Sun, which has never recovered on Merseyside after its lies about Hillsborough, but remains successful in the rest of the country. It's not that people outside Merseyside don't know the paper lied: it's that most don't much care.

In another genre, see Boris Johnson, an admitted and persistent liar, being elected Prime Minister.

Many people not only don't mind being lied to, they actively seek out people who tell them what they want to hear without any regard for the truth whatsover.

Which is in part what this thread is about.

Also, "feel" they have been lied to?

I'm not sure feelings are quite the best way to determine factual accuracy...

But hey, at least this thread isn't about something where factual accuracy is rather more important than what feels true, suchas a jury trial...

I wouldn't just pick out two newspapers that lie, though. The Independent, the Telegraph, the Mirror, they all tell lies or at least phrase the truth so that it will appeal to their readership. And although you pick out Boris Johnson, the majority of politicians in power lie. Look at Blair and the Iraq war. And he got re-elected!

Yes indeed. I started with a longer list of media but edited for brevity. I'm sure everyone can add substantially to it.

Alex Jones Infowars website is another egregiously false and very popular example from new media.

And there was that weird bloke in... Southend, was it? Who ran what looked like a news website, but he admitted was filled with total invention.

Goady invention, though, so it got the outrage clicks. And the clicks were what he was after. He was tracked down by a reporter and interviewed, and he didn't see any problem at all with what he was doing.

It was the fact that he was telling lies that made his site popular. Much more exciting than boring truth...

PerkingFaintly The legacy media has a responsibility to be as truthful as they can be, they have the resources in terms of money and staff to research things properly before publishing. They also reach millions of people.

Medium is the equivalent to Blogger (also created by the creator of Medium). I wouldn’t expect an article by written by Sacha at her Kitchen Island to come up to the standard of an article by a professional journalist. The problem is that a lot of professional journalists these days are writing articles no better than Sacha (feelings over facts).

I've been subscribing to Substack mainly and hadn't realised quite how low the quality of Medium is! I only ever read articles recommended by people I trust.

It's true that the vast majority of people like their comfort zones and won't leave them. Hopefully at some point the cognitive dissonance will fade and embarrassment will allow them to. I know that if I had tweeed that KR had killed 2 black men or mourned a convicted pedophile, I would be supremely embarrassed.

You're showing your ignorance. I know you're trying to insinuate there's some kind of right wing bot thing got on here but the truth is that when people have an online presence these big American stories permeate social media and some people will actually go inform themselves about the story.

You're actually here arguing that it's weird that people bother to verify things before forming an opinion.
I remember the shooting when it happened and tbh also bought into the narrative that Rittenhouse was this evil alt right lunatic who went to shoot protesters. I listen to an American podcast which is mainly about media and online nonsense and they made some comments which cast doubt on that so during the trial I read some coverage by different media outlets.

I'm a Scottish single parent with a full time job. Stuff like this interests me - it's really not hard. If you're in doubt of course you could reverse name search some of us, or even report some of us and Mnet can check us out

PerkingFaintly.

Do you mean Wings over Scotland?

No, though I can't remember the name of the ?Southend guy and his site.

But I'm sure everyone can come up with their own list of click-bait merchants with no interest in factual accuracy.

@TomPinch

PerkingFaintly.

Do you mean Wings over Scotland?

I think pp meant this (correct me if I'm wrong!) the Southend News Network www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-37992793

Bingo! Thanks, Yeko. So it really was Southend.

Kyle Rittenhouse gave an interview to Tucker Carlson last night. He makes an interesting point about prosecutorial misconduct "If they did this to me, imagine what they could do to a person of colour, who maybe doesn’t have the resources I do, or wasn't publicised"

Ironically, I think the case has opened a lot of "conservative" eyes to the fact that Black people who have highlighted this type of misconduct for decades weren't lying.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=do7sbWaZstQ
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm7_wSuahXY

@PerkingFaintly

Bingo! Thanks, Yeko. So it really was Southend.

Southend.

It's been over two years since I've been to the optician...