Page 5 | David Fuller conviction - utterly shocking

Garriet · 2021-11-04T18:47:46+00:00

I know there seems to be a news story every day about VAWG and it’s endemic and appalling, but I just read this story and literally exclaimed aloud. It’s horrific. I had no idea this was even being prosecuted. [[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-59167648]] Imagine being on the jury. Those poor women and girls, and their families. I’m shocked to the core by this, so disgusting.

MsTandme · 05/11/2021 07:51

I hope he doesn't have children, I can't imagine how that would feel having him as a Father.

EsmaCannonball · 05/11/2021 07:52

Sorry, the quote function didn't work, but the above post was in response to a previous poster stating that this was necrophilia, not violence against women.

Charley50 · 05/11/2021 07:55

I think DNA should be collected from all males tbh. It appears to be a very effective way of catching criminals. Might even become a slight deterrent.

FrancescaContini · 05/11/2021 07:58

@EsmaCannonball

He murdered two women and all the corpses he raped (I think there are almost one hundred) belonged to women and girls. He had equal access to male bodies but chose to violate females. It wasn't just coincidence that all the bodies were female.

The reporting around Nigel Robinson-Wright, the funeral director in Lancashire, is more vague. He has been charged with attempting to abuse a female toddler, and police have found him in possession of extreme sexual images, including child abuse images, images of him sexually abusing a dog, and images of corpses being sexually abuses, corpses which he specifically had access to. The sex of those people has not been mentioned. It is an ongoing case.

This is utterly sickening. I can hardly believe such depravity exists.

Claudethecat · 05/11/2021 08:01

Women are certainly very passive when it comes to such grotesque male behaviour, or is it something in the way it is reported which makes women feel powerless to do or say anything?

This is such an ill-informed statement and almost sounds like victim blaming.

We live in a society that has always minimised VAWAG. Rape within marriage was not even a crime until late last century. I bet there are thousands of women on this site who have not ever reported violence against them to the police because they know nothing would be done. I am one of them.

MsTandme · 05/11/2021 08:03

@EsmaCannonball

Sorry, the quote function didn't work, but the above post was in response to a previous poster stating that this was necrophilia, not violence against women.

Yes I know it only involved women, in this instance, but it's a crime that is committed against males to. But yes it's usually committed by males but there are documented cases of woman Necrophiliacs.

FrancescaContini · 05/11/2021 08:04

@Claudethecat

Women are certainly very passive when it comes to such grotesque male behaviour, or is it something in the way it is reported which makes women feel powerless to do or say anything?

This is such an ill-informed statement and almost sounds like victim blaming.

We live in a society that has always minimised VAWAG. Rape within marriage was not even a crime until late last century. I bet there are thousands of women on this site who have not ever reported violence against them to the police because they know nothing would be done. I am one of them.

I’m also one of them.

I never cease to be shocked by the victim blaming, by the suggestion that WOMEN are responsible for changing men’s behaviour.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 05/11/2021 08:04

i wonder if his brother had an inkling

i am not sure collecting all dna would help
wont the perpetrators realise this and destroy evidence/bodies

Lockheart · 05/11/2021 08:06

It's an absolutely appalling case. There is something very wrong with this individual.

EsmaCannonball · 05/11/2021 08:09

I know the police in the USA have been using things like genealogy websites to solve cold-case crimes where they have DNA. There have been some grumblings about the ethics of this, but I would have no problems about the police here doing the same. I wonder if there is anything in our laws to prevent it?

CreepingDeath · 05/11/2021 08:29

Yes I know it only involved women, in this instance, but it's a crime that is committed against males to. But yes it's usually committed by males but there are documented cases of woman Necrophiliacs.

Why does there always always have to be a 'but what about the menz' post in cases like this?

Are you seriously trying to say that men are at equal risk of this? That women offend on a similar scale? Of course there are outliers and women who commit all types of crimes, but the numbers are incredibly small. The vast majority of crimes like this are committed by men on women and girls. That is no coincidence, or some random chance, like they could have picked men or boys and just didn't. They target women, as a sex class. We know this.

And all the while, we have progressive men and women telling us that any male who claims to feel like a woman should have full access to female spaces. Horrifying!

Deathraystare · 05/11/2021 08:32

I can just imagine now all the 'jokes' on social media......

AnyFucker · 05/11/2021 08:40

Yes I know it only involved women, in this instance, but it's a crime that is committed against males to. But yes it's usually committed by males but there are documented cases of woman necrophiliacs

Just shut up

dayswithaY · 05/11/2021 08:40

It's horrific that this monster was left alone to carry out his crimes at the hospital for all these years, this is where truth really is stranger than fiction.

I've known about the murders of Wendy and Caroline for years, it always puzzled me. The two women lived and worked streets away from each other, he committed two brutal murders then seemingly just stopped. That's very unusual.

Claudethecat · 05/11/2021 08:41

I haven't seen any jokes so far. The story is not even high up on some online news sites. Maybe it is just too distressing for people to even want to think about it.

covetingthepreciousthings · 05/11/2021 08:41

I wonder if there is anything in our laws to prevent it?

As far as I understand it the Ancestry websites will only grant access to police if they have a warrant, and even then in the US at least they will still put up a fight against it.

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Garriet · 05/11/2021 08:42

@EsmaCannonball

I know the police in the USA have been using things like genealogy websites to solve cold-case crimes where they have DNA. There have been some grumblings about the ethics of this, but I would have no problems about the police here doing the same. I wonder if there is anything in our laws to prevent it?

I’m all for a PP suggestion of a national DNA database. Nothing to hide? It won’t affect you. But it could save lives.

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AutumnWreath · 05/11/2021 08:47

Putting the actual crime / person aside , I'm surprised any non mortuary person is allowed to work in there unaccompanied . You would think it would be a 2 person place of work as a minimum.

MissyB1 · 05/11/2021 08:51

@AutumnWreath

Putting the actual crime / person aside , I'm surprised any non mortuary person is allowed to work in there unaccompanied . You would think it would be a 2 person place of work as a minimum.

I can’t imagine the NHS has the staff for that. They don’t have enough staff to look after the living patients.

Vanishun · 05/11/2021 09:00

Man literally murders women, rapes hundreds of corpses, has reams of abuse videos and so on.

So a tragic little poster turns up to bleat about women.

Un-fucking-believable.

"Shut up" is too mild but I'd probably get deleted for writing what I thought, so let's stick with AnyFucker's reply for now.

meadowbleu · 05/11/2021 09:11

@MsTandme

I hope he doesn't have children, I can't imagine how that would feel having him as a Father.

Apparently he does, from one of the two marriages before his last one. He was widowed in 2015.

I read reports where his lovers described him as gentle and kind, but also that his late wife often appeared bruised. At one stage they lived in at a home for girls where she was a house-mistress 🙁

Vanishun · 05/11/2021 09:13

@AutumnWreath

Putting the actual crime / person aside , I'm surprised any non mortuary person is allowed to work in there unaccompanied . You would think it would be a 2 person place of work as a minimum.

According to the article:

'Investigators said Fuller would work late shifts and go into the morgue when other staff had left, often "visiting the same bodies repeatedly".'

You've got to wonder, didn't his colleagues find him creepy or wonder why he was always doing late isolated work? Didn't anyone notice the bodies being violated somehow?

You've also got to wonder, did he really only kill two women in his lifetime?

MsTandme · 05/11/2021 09:15

@AnyFucker

Yes I know it only involved women, in this instance, but it's a crime that is committed against males to. But yes it's usually committed by males but there are documented cases of woman necrophiliacs

Just shut up

Wtaf?

MsTandme · 05/11/2021 09:17

@Vanishun

Man literally murders women, rapes hundreds of corpses, has reams of abuse videos and so on.

So a tragic little poster turns up to bleat about women.

Un-fucking-believable.

"Shut up" is too mild but I'd probably get deleted for writing what I thought, so let's stick with AnyFucker's reply for now.

What the fuck are you talking about?

FATEdestiny · 05/11/2021 09:24

I’m all for a PP suggestion of a national DNA database.
Nothing to hide? It won’t affect you. But it could save lives.

Given the national (international) fuss made about ensuring covid vaccines are not compulsory, I'm not convinced we would be close to public acceptance of this.