Anyone follow the coverage of the Sarah Everard case today and want to vent?

[HangingOver]

I'm home alone today and except for whatsapping my friends have nothing to do with this incandescent rage and hopeless sadness.

Anyone else need to talk?

@TheVanguardSix

I would like to know about Couzens' partner. Surely SHE must have long suspected that something wasn't quite right about this man? If so, why didn't she speak up earlier to someone?

Read about sociopaths and then revisit these thoughts. You have no idea.
I know I bring it up in threads lately, including this one, but I had no fucking clue my STBX sexually abused our daughter for four years... while I was doing the fucking laundry on Saturdays, while I was walking the dog, while I was getting our son back to sleep, while this, while that...
Of all the headfuckery that we're coping with now, I think the trauma of not knowing what my then-husband was doing, what he was capable of doing (IS capable of doing), is something I will spend the rest of my life unpacking. I will surely die not having resolved that. I was actively living in this house of horrors and I had no idea of the abuse. So I really and truly believe WC showed his wife his good mask. She is not HIS shame and she is not culpable. So just don't.
Don't give her his blame. Don't.

I'm so sorry you and your daughter were abused in such a fashion by such a pig. It is not your shame. It is HIS. It is your sorrow, and your trauma, that you are having to bear, as a result of his actions, which should be to his shame.

@HailAdrian

I don’t know what that means. Will you come back and let us know when you’ve worked it out?

Oh bore off. What an odd thing to take issue with.

Why? The poster you quoted got loads of replies. Why do you need to point out you’re still wondering why people are upset?

@HangingOver

It's horrendous. It makes me so angry. And it's easy for "regular guys" to "other" this piece of shit and call him a monster/mentally ill because it's such an extreme situation but I myself and many many of my friends are victims of some form of sexual violence/assault. It's everywhere, it's in the fucking walls.

Yes, I agree. This was an exceptional case in many ways, but violence against women (& children) by men is in the walls, floor & ceiling of our society. RIP Sarah Everard. I hope this murderer is given the maximum sentence but nothing can bring Sarah back or restore our confidence in the Police / judiciary.

Yep. Feeling horrified and sickened, just thinking about what she must have gone though in those last moments. My daughter keeps asking me if monsters are real, and it grieves me to know that they are and they are amongst us.

So upset by this and can't stop thinking about it. I worry for my 17 month old daughter and her future. I think about all the times this could have been me, so many near misses in that respect. Terrifying. Poor, poor Sarah, I can't bear to think of the fear she would have felt.

@TheVanguardSix I am so sorry. I hope you and your daughter can recover and find peace in your lives.

Her family’s statements were heartbreaking. I keep thinking of her poor mum. To know Sarah died scared and alone, how can she ever come to terms with that?

Sarah must have realised very quickly something wasn’t right.

It’s beyond awful, the planning beforehand, taking he his family back to where her body was. I hope he never has a day of peace again.

Makes me worried to have daughters. It’s so awful. Like pp said we’ve all had that stomach dive with cab drivers we weren’t sure of. She must have been so scared. Can’t stop thinking of her. I hope he’s never released. God help her poor family.

I read the coverage and wept, seeing her beautiful face whilst reading what he did to her. The fear she must have felt is incomprehensible, I am beyond angry, beyond sad, I think I feel despair, despair that this could happen by someone in a position of trust. How dare he?

And the one thing I cannot get my head around is that no-one appeared to have any idea that he could do this. Not even his wife. How, just how did he hide all the red flags?

I feel so sad for Sarah, so sad for the life she never lived, so sad for her parents, her sister, her boyfriend, her friends, her colleagues... everyone she knew.

I feel sad for every female too, all of us will carry this tragic story in our minds, forever, and I dare say it’s chipped away at our trust.

@Itsokay2020

I read the coverage and wept, seeing her beautiful face whilst reading what he did to her. The fear she must have felt is incomprehensible, I am beyond angry, beyond sad, I think I feel despair, despair that this could happen by someone in a position of trust. How dare he?

And the one thing I cannot get my head around is that no-one appeared to have any idea that he could do this. Not even his wife. How, just how did he hide all the red flags?

I feel so sad for Sarah, so sad for the life she never lived, so sad for her parents, her sister, her boyfriend, her friends, her colleagues... everyone she knew.

I feel sad for every female too, all of us will carry this tragic story in our minds, forever, and I dare say it’s chipped away at our trust.

But people did know - his colleagues knew. They called him ‘the rapist’ as a joke nickname, they knew he’d exposed himself weeks before, they knew he had previously sexually assaulted women. The met police knew what he was capable of, they did nothing.

@worriedatthemoment your trust in men is obviously comforting to you. Many women used to have that trust but it is gone now.

Your NAMALTing is not doing anything to restore their trust. The mothers and wives of numerous rapists and murderers have said the same as you and the other NAMALTers on this thread. Read the room. This thread is about the abduction, rape and murder of a woman by a police officer, not how lovely you think your male family members are.

@Keke94LND

It's absolutely horrifying! I suspected that he may have used his position in the police somehow but I didn't expect this tbh.. not sure what I did expect tho.. he's an absolute monster and I can't bare the thought of what happened to poor Sarah. I live 10 minutes from where she was abducted, it's horrifying that this monster was out there roaming around looking for his victim. Part of me wishes my boyfriend and I had gone for a walk or something at that time and see it and could have intervened or done something to stop it happening but i know it's no use thinking that :( I really feel for the lady who saw her being arrested from her car. I'd really struggle to process it all. I would almost always choose to walk home unless it was extremely late or bad weather, because I was always taught it was unsafe to get a taxi on your own... it seems it's unsafe no matter what you do!

He would have shown you his warrant card as well and claimed you were breaching covid restrictions or obstructing a police officer. You could not of saved her, no one could apart from the police to whom he had already been reported numerous times or in fact -the only person that could of saved her is the man that in fact murdered her and depraved her and her body. It is absolutely horrific.

I would like to know about Couzens' partner. Surely SHE must have long suspected that something wasn't quite right about this man? If so, why didn't she speak up earlier to someone? - Is there perhaps a lesson here for those of us who may be living with someone who's long been giving us a gut feeling that something isn't quite right? Another reason for women not to be afraid to consider their relationships and not just put up and shut up, if there are real reasons to be worried....? I wonder how many women every day turn a blind eye, for whatever reason, to the fact that they may be living with a monster.

This is starting to veer towards victim blaming.
It's very rarely as obvious as this.

What happened to Sarah is the most horrific crime in recent times. She was such a beautiful girl with a kind and trusting soul and had so much to live for and was brought up well with a loving family. If only she hadn't been so trusting but she must have thought she was doing the right thing by complying...

This is the one time that an exception should be made in UK law to ensure that the death penalty is brought back in the UK to immediately deal with this monster of a thing who cannot be called human in any way, shape or form. Hanging done slowly for him preferably. Otherwise many people would gladly offer to set fire to him while he's still alive to make sure he suffers... People feel so strongly about this case and will continue to be outraged about it until the law changes. It's well known that Capital punishment acts as a deterrent from serious crimes... it works very well in other countries...

@HailAdrian

With the amount of male violence, what is it about this case that has upset people so much? Unfortunately, women get raped, beaten, murdered by men all the time. Do you cry over them all or was there something about this that triggered that reaction?

Yeah, I wondered the same.

Because it was done by someone who is supposed to protect women. Why is that hard to understand?

@CityCommuter Oh grow up with your want of torturing people. Who would do it, you? What kind of person are you?

How do parents live with something like this? How to stop thinking why my daughter, out of all the millions of women in the UK he could have taken, why my daughter?

@MrsRobbieHart

The fact that he shouldn’t even have had is warrant card on him due to his indecent exposure days before is what is so infuriating. Had the police followed that up with the urgency it deserved he wouldn’t have been able to arrest her. The outcome of the investigation into their lack of action will be interesting.

Agreed, instant suspension, nothing less.

I think this is going to be one of the cases that we read about for years and years. The whole thing is just horrific. The premeditation, the abuse of power, everything. I genuinely worry for my dd aged 18 who has just gone off to start her life at university.

Citycommuter Sarah was not being trusting. There was one person responsible for what happened to her, from the time he chose her to be a victim she was lost.

He showed her his warrant card and " arrested " her, in her head she was in minor trouble in respect of Covid. Had she not complied he would have " arrested " her for resisting arrest.

And bystanders would have not intervened, and if they had he would have showed them his warrant card. His wickedness was behind comprehension, had she been more "street smart" she may have questioned the handcuffs, but it would have made no difference. His cunning and wickedness saw to that.

@TooBigForMyBoots don't tell me what i can or cannot post , like i said the victim also has male family members are you saying they should be taking blame too
I can post what I like as can you , so don't think you are better , the monthers of women who murder likely feel the same as well, don't minimise the fact that some women also commit henious crimes, for one we don't know the sex of the officers who called him names are either
Yes men need to step up but branding half the population doesn't help
Calling for tougher sentences would be a start , like the flashing incident if this was highlighted as a serious crime also maybe he wouldn't of been able to do what he had done

If only she hadn't been so trusting

You have no idea she was!

Because it was done by someone who is supposed to protect women. Why is that hard to understand?

Exactly. And she was doing everything we are told to do to keep ourselves safe.
It exposed the fact that none of that makes a blind bit of difference and it's frightening.

I cried when I read her fathers speech in court. Poor Sarah and her family 💔

@LexMitior oh I'm sorry that me being outraged by this horrific crime offends you so much that you wonder what kind of a person I am... more to the point what kind of person are you based on your line of thinking?

Do you really think I'm the only person in the UK to be in favour of Capital punishment being brought back for exceptionally gruesome crimes? Wake up please and just read any News site / forum and that will tell you the opinions of the majority of the population...