Anyone follow the coverage of the Sarah Everard case today and want to vent?

[HangingOver]

I'm home alone today and except for whatsapping my friends have nothing to do with this incandescent rage and hopeless sadness.

Anyone else need to talk?

Have just read The Guardian article on this. I feel so, so sad and sickened by it. She wasn’t even in a park, she was stopped and complied as most would. I feel so utterly disgusted . That poor woman and her family. Those two sisters last year and now Sabina too. I have 2 daughters, 21 &17 and I worry so much about them.

The Met has to do something. I would want to see a proper investigation into him and what his fellow officers knew. Anything less and trust will be non existent.

I don’t believe that was the first time he did something either. I can’t see how he could go from flashing to deception, kidnap and murder. I would almost guarantee he had raped before if not killed someone else.

@Bunnycat101

The Met has to do something. I would want to see a proper investigation into him and what his fellow officers knew. Anything less and trust will be non existent.

I don’t believe that was the first time he did something either. I can’t see how he could go from flashing to deception, kidnap and murder. I would almost guarantee he had raped before if not killed someone else.

You are completely correct. Since his name was "the rapist" there is much that needs to be explained. Nobody goes from minor indecent exposure to a brutal rape, murder, strangulation and fire. Anyone who has prosecuted crime or investigated it knows that isn't how the most serious of offenders get there. They have years of violent and sexually degrading conduct before they do anything even approaching this kind of depravity.

I wonder. . . if you send hate mail to a prisoner, do they get it?

With the amount of male violence, what is it about this case that has upset people so much? Unfortunately, women get raped, beaten, murdered by men all the time. Do you cry over them all or was there something about this that triggered that reaction?

I can only speak for myself but this case has affected me more than any other. I think initially it was because I'm 33 as well, exactly her age and have also walked home in the dark after seeing friends. So I put myself in her shoes, she could have been me, my friend, my sister. Then when the details came out it made it even worse. He was a police officer, someone in a position of trust that we are taught to respect and obey. I'd have done the same as her, I imagine and got into the car. Once she was handcuffed she had no chance, none. The fact that he shouldn't even have had his warrant card on him and if he hadn't, maybe things would have been different makes me feel sick to my stomach.

As ex police I am sure he will get the shit kicked out of him on a regular basis in prison.

I hope he spends the rest of his life dodging glass in his food and punches to his face.

In fact I hope some psychopath beats him to death. Slowly.

The rapist murderer is a despicable, snivelling coward.

He was shaking when Sarah Everard's father gave his impact statement, full of self-pity the pathetic dreg of humanity that he is.

I don't know if I can stomach the mitigation part of the hearing tomorrow.

He has to get a whole life term and I hope he spends every single day of it cowering in fear.

I don’t know how his lawyer can stand to defend him. I get the legal process but if they come up with any bollocks about long-standing policeman/ good character it’ll not go down well.

The man's locker room nickname was the rapist. His colleagues called him that,fellow police officers, fellow men. HOW, how was he able to keep his job when others knew, or clearly suspected, what sort of person he was?!

Its a given that he gets a whole life order. The planning, sadism and premeditation of this act makes any mitigation very hard. His barrister will probably indicate that he's had a good record as a police officer but really, since he's abused that utterly its of no moment. He may also try and get a guilty plea discount but this guy is so dangerous it will not count.

Save the rage for the Met. They can recruit, manage, organise and do better than this, but they don't, they tolerate encourage and laugh about it. Their handwringing is despicable, and they are culpable.

Surely there should be a full investigation of The Met after this? And also, anyone who was nicknaming Couzens 'The Rapist' should be sacked, along with those who knew about his indecent exposure and did not act.

@ShonkyWonkyDonkey

The man's locker room nickname was the rapist. His colleagues called him that,fellow police officers, fellow men. HOW, how was he able to keep his job when others knew, or clearly suspected, what sort of person he was?!

Maybe, just maybe, they too don't mind a few steroids, extreme porn and talking about violent sexual crimes as a form of a joke?

yes, its the culture of the Met.

Let’s hope he has the shit kicked out of him on a regular basis, I hope he spends the rest of his days terrified.

Like everyone else here I'm beyond appalled and outraged, praying that her family can somehow - impossibly - find some kind of peace one day, knowing what happened to the innocent lovely girl they cherished and valued so much. I'm so impressed by the courage of her father who actually challenged this monster to face him today.

I would like to know about Couzens' partner. Surely SHE must have long suspected that something wasn't quite right about this man? If so, why didn't she speak up earlier to someone? - Is there perhaps a lesson here for those of us who may be living with someone who's long been giving us a gut feeling that something isn't quite right? Another reason for women not to be afraid to consider their relationships and not just put up and shut up, if there are real reasons to be worried....? I wonder how many women every day turn a blind eye, for whatever reason, to the fact that they may be living with a monster.

I would like to know about Couzens' partner. Surely SHE must have long suspected that something wasn't quite right about this man? If so, why didn't she speak up earlier to someone?

Oh god please don't do this. That poor woman is living a nightmare as are her children.

Ok, yeah, maybe it's his wife's oversight? Did she nickname him the rapist and joke about what a fucking sadist he was with her friends? My money is on no.

Yep, and now The Met are all 'boo hoo, this is really upsetting for us, we don't view him as a police officer, he's not one of us'.

Well tough shit lads, he was a police officer, he was one of you. In fact he was nicknamed 'The Rapist' by you.

Exactly. They knew he was a danger. Crocodile tears today serve no one.

Great, we're onto stage 2 in the misogyny playbook. Finding a woman to shoulder some of the responsibility.

Step 3 will be something to do with his childhood.

@ShonkyWonkyDonkey

The man's locker room nickname was the rapist. His colleagues called him that,fellow police officers, fellow men. HOW, how was he able to keep his job when others knew, or clearly suspected, what sort of person he was?!

ITN news report tonight said that a lot would be said in court tomorrow about the Mets failings.. My mum and I were saying how scared she must have been in the car. Also seeing the footage of him buying the bags and the petrol... I felt sick hearing that he took his children to play where he had burned her body... I hope he is in daily fear and torment for the rest of his life. Also that they keep an eye on him so he doesn't kill himself!

Whose to say he has not done this before, digging up his piece of land I think should be called for.

The man is a deviant, always has been.

@goldengrove

Like everyone else here I'm beyond appalled and outraged, praying that her family can somehow - impossibly - find some kind of peace one day, knowing what happened to the innocent lovely girl they cherished and valued so much. I'm so impressed by the courage of her father who actually challenged this monster to face him today.

I would like to know about Couzens' partner. Surely SHE must have long suspected that something wasn't quite right about this man? If so, why didn't she speak up earlier to someone? - Is there perhaps a lesson here for those of us who may be living with someone who's long been giving us a gut feeling that something isn't quite right? Another reason for women not to be afraid to consider their relationships and not just put up and shut up, if there are real reasons to be worried....? I wonder how many women every day turn a blind eye, for whatever reason, to the fact that they may be living with a monster.

Or maybe we could instead wonder why the people paid to protect us show us time and time again that they’ll happily turn a blind eye to one of their own?

Maybe she could have logged it with the police 🙄

@Pikamoo

I think the death penalty is wholly appropriate. In prison he'll have a life and have plans and dreams for the future (small dreams like to read a new book but still there). He'll have relationships. He doesn't deserve any of that. I like the burn him at the stake idea.

Burn him in a fridge. Like he did to Sarah.

@goldengrove

Like everyone else here I'm beyond appalled and outraged, praying that her family can somehow - impossibly - find some kind of peace one day, knowing what happened to the innocent lovely girl they cherished and valued so much. I'm so impressed by the courage of her father who actually challenged this monster to face him today.

I would like to know about Couzens' partner. Surely SHE must have long suspected that something wasn't quite right about this man? If so, why didn't she speak up earlier to someone? - Is there perhaps a lesson here for those of us who may be living with someone who's long been giving us a gut feeling that something isn't quite right? Another reason for women not to be afraid to consider their relationships and not just put up and shut up, if there are real reasons to be worried....? I wonder how many women every day turn a blind eye, for whatever reason, to the fact that they may be living with a monster.

Not necessarily. His actions even in the hours directly after taking Sarah were scarily and disturbingly 'normal'. The people who served him in the shop and in Costa said nothing was strange about his actions, and on the YouTube channel his children had the videos were that of a normal family. He was in nearly £30k of debt, so even if they had a joint account he could have paid for stuff and she wouldn't have known. Shift work creates an excellent cover for being out of the home at odd hours and for longish stints, no reason why she would doubt he was being honest about being at work. He was open about his dispute at work re his pay banding and would explain if he was fired or whatever rather than if he had been caught for his previous IE etc. Of course people should report if they feel something is off, but worryingly I think a regular family life can exist alongside a depreaved one.

He should be killed.
Sorry that sounds wrong and I know mumsnetters are against the death penalty , but why should he live when she can't ?
He doesn't deserve to carry on breathing