"That Griggio stuff"

[DuchessOfDisaster]

One of my friends always preferred rose wine, semi-sweet or sweeter wines. I forgot that and one day when I went over for supper took a bottle of Pinot Grigio. She liked it and started to buy it for herself.

Now, she refers to it as "that Griggio stuff" (pronounced with a hard g!) It's embarrassingly amusing!

Do you have any mates that say things like this?

Ah yes, the old rhotic accent V non-rhotic accent confusion.

@Soupsseason

No need for all the wincing & cringing. You know what they mean. Don't be a dick

Yes

@Soubriquet

Ok, traditionally people in England say charade to rhyme with lard but I think a lot of people have Americanised it

I haven't Americanised anything

I live in this country - the bit up the top - and "we" rhyme
Charade with lemonade

Nothing to do with American speech

My mum God rest her had the habit of pronouncing anything vaguely designer or fancy (as she perceived it) in a strange French way (with her very strong Welsh accent). So Adidas was 'adee-DAH', Elle magazine was 'ell-AY' and Mulberry became 'mulberr-AY'. She also called pilau rice 'peelor rice' and (my favourite) focaccia was 'fuckaysha'.

Aw I miss her and her brilliant foibles!

@shreddednips

And 'Gatorade' to rhyme with 'charade'

I've worked it out

Charade is shar aid

Charades the game is shar rards

Adee - DAH is brilliant. Like lah-di-dah 😆

We say varse

No "we" chuffing don't. It doesn't rhyme with "arse"

It's a vaz where I'm from in Scotland (which is not America). There is no "r" in glass, either, nor is it a long a sound.

This has just reminded me of woman I used to work with who thought she was posh (she wasnt). Insistent that claret was pronounced clah-ray and the Thai herb galangal was pronounced gah-lawnjaaaal.

@liveforsummer

Adee - DAH is brilliant. Like lah-di-dah 😆

Precisely!

Joe Wicks - Wens-Lee-dah-lay cheese

Liberry for library

I once mispronounced ‘epitome’ in a conversation as I’d only even seen it written down. I still cringe about it now.

@RAOK

Liberry for library

I once mispronounced ‘epitome’ in a conversation as I’d only even seen it written down. I still cringe about it now.

Oh, everyone has said ‘eppytome’ at some point! I said it at my first university tutorial snd was ready to die of shame, but my tutor quite correctly said it was a sign I’d been growing vocabulary by reading. I recognise other autodidacts by that kind of mispronunciation.

@MeltedCheeseonTop

MIL calls Ciabatta See-A-Batta

As an Italian I've not met many people who pronounce it correctly.

Chia-batta is the common mispronunciation I hear.

Prosciutto is another one that people always mispronounce.

The best one I heard was "Fess-a-rus".

Can you guess what word they thought they were saying? Thesaurus. This came from a grown man.

DM has talked about going to Cor-few (Corfu). She bank's with Sant And Dur (Santander).

How is facade pronounced?.

With a soft c to rhyme with lard?
With a hard c to rhyme with lemonade?
Or with a hard c to rhyme with lemonade?

I favour the first.

Sorry the second option should have said soft c not hard c.

Well not to rhyme with lard as I pronounce the r in lard and I definitely would say fass ard. I pronounce it like fass aahd

To all of those PP mocking others' pronunciation of foreign words, do you all say 'Paree' when talking about Paris? I'm betting not.

I also agree that the thread was started as an unkind one.

@IloveJudgeJudy

To all of those PP mocking others' pronunciation of foreign words, do you all say 'Paree' when talking about Paris? I'm betting not.

I also agree that the thread was started as an unkind one.

I've always wondered why place names are actually translated. The original is their name surely? We don't automatically change peoples names depending on which country they are in. Like if someone is called Stefano we'd not automatically name them Steven when on holiday or when moving to the UK. Mixhalis won't suddenly become Michael unless the choose to. Why do we call it Paris?

my friend say Dew-buy for Dubai

@CounsellorTroi

How is facade pronounced?.

With a soft c to rhyme with lard?
With a hard c to rhyme with lemonade?
Or with a hard c to rhyme with lemonade?

I favour the first.

None of these for me, even factoring in your correction.

I'd say it "fassad" not rhyming with lard (no R!) but the second 'a' sound slightly elongated.

... and emphasis on second syllable

I've always wondered why place names are actually translated. The original is their name surely? We don't automatically change peoples names depending on which country they are in. Like if someone is called Stefano we'd not automatically name them Steven when on holiday or when moving to the UK. Mixhalis won't suddenly become Michael unless the choose to. Why do we call it Paris?

It's a good question. We call it Paris because the s used to be pronounced in French too, and once a word is widely used in one language, we don't update or change it without strong reason - it's doing its job. Paris pronounced our way is correct in English now.

Names are a bit different - few individuals' names are widely used over time. And one would try to get them right when speaking to the individual. We still have anglicised versions for historic figures and celebrities, though - Jesus, for example. Napoleon, Charlemagne, Leonardo, Comaneci all get "rolled into the stream of language" - not mispronounced, but given close approximations with English vowels and consonants. I'd call a French friend Henri but would be perfectly happy calling Henri IV of France Henry.

My dad pronounces apples as arples.