The Spectator planning to run a hit piece on Marcus Rashford tomorrow

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twitter.com/MarcusRashford/status/1417560450393329666?s=19

I'm so sick of the rags that pass for 'journalism' in this country. It's actually embarrassing.

MB come from nothing and done more that this corrupt lazy arse privilege middle class lying government.

He only in 20’s, honestly I don’t think his mum could be anymore prouder at the son she raised.

He didn’t have to, he did.

Compare him to likes of fucking Owen Jones and all other silver spoon who just use likes of poverty to self promote whilst in next breath shitting on them.

Middle class : upper class really are threaten when money doesn’t give them all power to call shots.

Image being so pissed as young lad like Marcus.

Wish working class realised just who really has the power.

Marcus is inspiration role model he shown what is possible and remembers his roots and I say that as parent who’s DS can’t afford to play football club fees, do ppl still expect him to live on estate having no luxuries and give all his money away.

I’d failed as parent if my child see Boris as any kind of role model to aspire to.

Plus he feckless parent and that’s why won’t speak about issues regarding Child Maintenance

The Conservative party will be afraid of the power Marcus has. They’ll try to bring him down again and again.

Was the article intended to take away conversation from the Cummings interview, incase people look a bit too closely. I see it was not covered much by TV news today.

Few months ago & for 1st time in my life I stopped following the ongoing of what’s going on with who screwing over who to save own skin with this government.

Life nearly everyone lockdown through shit spanner in works having to listen to spew out of their mouths whilst completely screwing over public did help mental health.

Didn’t help digging into some of these big charity org, unbelievable what you find out digging.

I miss working more and women was around makes such difference being around ppl who only want to raise you up, it wasn’t just MR others supported fsm vouchers, even that teacher who done it of his own back taking buying food, it makes difference that some gives toss.

I don’t understand resentment to those on benefits, it’s shit life, it’s limited, it’s degrading, I actually couldn’t bring myself to get on bus to sign on this week, thought of walking in that office. Which has just created shit load more of problems but got suck it get my shit together as have kid.

That’s worst part he off age starting notice and ask why we poor, this is new to me, we didn’t notice this stuff when I was growing up.

I took school vouchers for my kid, I really am stubborn and proud it’s hard sucking it up.

I just don’t get why people begrudge the vouchers.

Who grows up see bright future on benefits yes you get odd few.

But on positive note am actually not ashamed that lucky got council home and if I ever play lottery and win I get to buy my house at privileged discount rate and all had to do was be poor

@Ghosttile

I knew there would be a media hatchet job on him soon. There’s no surprise there. I just assumed it would be from the Daily Mail.

Was it here I saw the quote ‘the spectator is the daily mail for those who passed English gcse’

@wallpapering
Great post, I've been following your contributions on here. You are spot on in everything you've said. Good wishes to you.

Marcus Rashford comes from a single-parent working class family and his mother often had to work multiple jobs to feed their family, sometimes skipping meals herself to ensure Rashford and his siblings ate.

In a column for the Spectator in 1995, Boris Johnson branded the children of single mothers as: “ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate.”

He felt it was “outrageous that married couples should pay for ‘the single mothers’ desire to procreate independently of men” and wrote that the country needed to “restore women’s desire to be married.”

Johnson suggested cuts to benefits to tackle the rise in teen pregnancies at the time, writing: “It must be generally plausible that if having a baby out of wedlock meant sure-fire destitution on a Victorian scale, young girls might indeed think twice about having a baby.”

The Tory leader added, “And yet no government – and certainly no Labour government – will have the courage to make the cuts in the safety net of the viciousness required to provide anything like such a deterrent. For the reality, surely, is that nine times out of 10 these girls will go on having babies out of wedlock not because they want to qualify for some state hand-out, but because, in their monotonous and depressing lives, they want a little creature to love.”

Is anyone surprised that in 2021, the Spectator considers it as essential to tear Marcus Rashford down.

@quizqueen

I'm not a fan of his at all. The only reason he was poor growing up as a child was because, I understand, his father walked out on the family. It's nothing to do with the government; it's not their responsibility to feed children people chose to have. Neither is it the taxpayers, which is where the real money comes from.

The wealthy footballers at the top of the leagues refused to be furloughed and take a pay cut even though the ground staff etc. had to. I would have had more admiration for him if he had run a campaign to shame all the men who walk away from their children without paying a penny towards their upbringing. He also could have tried to persuade all his rich mates to agree to chip in a fair proportion of their salary to a charity of their choice. Then I could start singing his praises.

This is a public forum and you are entitled to your views. However, I think that your post was mean spirited

@quizqueen

I'm not a fan of his at all. The only reason he was poor growing up as a child was because, I understand, his father walked out on the family. It's nothing to do with the government; it's not their responsibility to feed children people chose to have. Neither is it the taxpayers, which is where the real money comes from.

The wealthy footballers at the top of the leagues refused to be furloughed and take a pay cut even though the ground staff etc. had to. I would have had more admiration for him if he had run a campaign to shame all the men who walk away from their children without paying a penny towards their upbringing. He also could have tried to persuade all his rich mates to agree to chip in a fair proportion of their salary to a charity of their choice. Then I could start singing his praises.

@longwayoff

No. He's being obliquely accused, I fully expect, of being an uppity Black man who doesn't know his place. That's what I'd expect from The Spectator, no matter how they care to dress it up. Let's wait and see.

Exactly

Have not read the full thread but jumping on to say to @quizqueen that Manchester Utd did not furlough any staff and even continued to pay casual workers.
Apologies if someone already posted this.
Off to continue the thread

livingwitheds1984 I wish that was a sticky on this site. "right wingers do not support woman/are not GC, they just hate minorities.''

So what? Who reads The Spectator anyway? If you'd not posted about it OP I would have remained in total ignorance of this article and so would a hell of a lot of others. Anyway, how can you attack the article before it has appeared?

Wall paper, spot on about Owen Jones as well.

@MrsIsobelCrawley wow thanks for posting that! Funny how BJ has helped create so many single mothers personally. Wonder what he would say about that now.

Is the article out yet? Is it poor.

I don't understand don't if these attitudes, like saying awaiting hatchet, we want to bring him down. I disagree, he's done good, but if he's also done bad aka Barlow, Beckham,Carr, why can't that also be investigated?

@wallpapering

Yes to racists - if had my way they never be allowed to attend or watch football again,

I’m not into football but do watch England games and I honestly expected the public reaction (if you old as me) to those three young lads to be same as when Gazza sob his heart after England game.

The whole nation was behind him

Im not into football but Im old enough to remember when there was a Beckham effigy hanging outside a pub after he got sent off during the world cup.

Not interested in football but watched the England games as with family. Nothing to say about the games but Southgate and team have rediscovered dignity in defeat. Everyone thought we could foresee the future when the penalty takers lost. The racists galloped out as expected. However, I was encouraged by the massive public outcry against both the loon racists and their mates in government- and yes, 'I've suffered racism myself' Priti Patel, that does include you. 27million viewers: 2,000 racist tweets. So, unlikely as it may seem, the dinosaurs of the Spectator still celebrating the Empire are on their way out, but slowly. Don't stop pushing at them.

So, unlikely as it may seem, the dinosaurs of the Spectator still celebrating the Empire are on their way out, but slowly. Don't stop pushing at them.

If only that were true.
The racist Britain First attitudes as winning at the moment and driving the country their way.

I understand what you mean Kendodd and would have agreed with you prior to the football kerfuffle. However, the overall reaction against the hate, the support for the young men and the 2 recent by election losses give me cause for hope that the neo fascist grip on the country, since the rise to Brexit, is loosening and people are beginning to wake up. After all, the architect of Brexit was on TV a couple of days ago sniggering about his mega-con of British voters and his attempted coup. He's not finished yet. We have to keep pulling their covers off and show their snake's bellies. Blimey, I'm becoming David Icke. Better get a coffee.

An important piece of the right-wing culture wars is to portray everyone as being as corrupt, uncaring and self-obessed as themselves.

That is why they went after Starmer about that donkey field, which was a ridiculous piece of nothing.

Obviously until the article is published who knows.

But the right always want to drag everyone down to their level. Most of us genuinely are better people than the Tories imagine - e.g. only roughly a third of people would fiddle their expenses, meaning two-thirds would not.

I have never tried to avoid or evade any tax, or claim anything not entitled to etc - but you can bet that Rees-Mogg and his type think I would - because he judges me by his own standards.

but you can bet that Rees-Mogg and his type think I would - because he judges me by his own standards

Yes, I agree.

people are beginning to wake up

Don't agree with this though.
I realised a long while ago that there is NOTHING that will cause Leave voters to rethink. It's like a cult. Even if Dom's latest revelation was that they all work for Putin and Brexit was a Russian plot (job done) to cause irreversible damage to the UK they would just pretend Brexit was STILL a great idea. Also the Tory Party and right wing press will keep stoking the hate to keep supporters on side. And besides, it's too late, they won.