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Sussexes and bullying campaign

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DeepThinkingGirl · 11/06/2021 00:59

Hi everyone !

Does anyone find the constant bullying of the Sussexes to affect their mental health ?

I find the mainstream misogyny to be a reflection of how society really does view women as a whole and how othering it is of people of other cultures.

I think baby Lilibet would be very sad to know the world received her with such strong opinions against her naming. It’s really sad that the world so full of hate doesn’t provide a nice place for kids to grow confidently.

I feel like if this happens in a powerful royal family, what’s there to hope in your average family!

Btw I have in law issues and I find the attitudes towards the sussexes triggering and upsetting

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GlencoraP · 11/06/2021 16:28

Gosh if true that’s really sad

ohforarainyday · 11/06/2021 16:35

she specifically requested that nobody else used the name in future

Isn't it funny how practically every other week a poster pops up claiming to have a friend who works for the Queen, apparently has no problem breaking their NDA, has gossip that inevitably makes Meghan look bad, and decides to share it on Mumsnet and only Mumsnet when they could easily earn a lot of money if they took it to a tabloid.

MoChridhe · 11/06/2021 16:36

@Darklane

I see nothing to indicate that the Queen is upset

Her flowers on Philips coffin had the one word Lillibet on the card & she specifically requested that nobody else used the name in future as it was very personal to her & her husband after her parents died.
I got this from a relative who is on the staff at Windsor.

I also have a relative who told me that the Queen is very happy with the name. She is also on the staff at Windsor 🤷‍♀️
Frownette · 11/06/2021 16:46

I don't understand all this, as far as I can tell daughter born named after Queen nickname BBC said without permission now Harry wants to sue?

Is that right?

AnotherName1334 · 11/06/2021 17:00

Lol @ the friend posts. I have some friends somewhere but couldn't possibly say where or what they've said or I'd be on the moolah, not MN.

Owlsandbats · 11/06/2021 17:02

Isn't completely crazy? Lilibet the woman and Queen who devoted her life to the monarchy made endless personal sacrifices and Lilibet the daughter of 2 who abandoned the monarchy as their egos weren't being stroked enough. Without the family feud, the name may have been ok but with Harry and megs's rude behaviour it's a bit of an insult to the queen. I bet the baby is super cute though and she will carry her name with grace and pride.

Watercolours272 · 11/06/2021 17:08

Even if the queen wasn't happy about the use of her nickname she may well have said she was just to try and keep the peace! The RF must be constantly on edge wondering what H&M will accuse them of next.

Gorgeouslilgirl · 11/06/2021 17:08

“ I bet the baby is super cute though and she will carry her name with grace and pride.”

I think so too 😊. And I like to think that all babies and indeed all of us deserve our names and the love with which our parents named us ❤️

RickiTarr · 11/06/2021 17:12

@Frownette

I don't understand all this, as far as I can tell daughter born named after Queen nickname BBC said without permission now Harry wants to sue?

Is that right?

That’s the gist.

Interesting that the BBC were seeking comment from a palace source about it in the first place, I thought. Royal gossip isn’t normal BBC fare but there could be a boring explanation for that, I suppose, maybe, possibly. Has BBC television news drifted downmarket lately?

Roussette · 11/06/2021 17:14

Her flowers on Philips coffin had the one word Lillibet on the card & she specifically requested that nobody else used the name in future as it was very personal to her & her husband after her parents died. I got this from a relative who is on the staff at Windsor

Sadly we have had soooo many posters on these threads who know someone in BP, KP, Balmoral... we even had Meghan's nanny and a friend of Oprah... so excuse me if I take that with a pinch of salt. Would the Queen honestly honestly be confiding in someone 'who works at Windsor'. I don't think so.

Slipperrr · 11/06/2021 17:15

If everyone stopped fanning the flames the media would stop giving a shit and wouldn't write about them.

RickiTarr · 11/06/2021 17:19

If we became a republic, the legitimate media would stop covering them all.

TotorosCatBus · 11/06/2021 17:38

I felt for the Sussexes (particularly Meghan) before the Oprah interview but since then I think that both sides are awful. The RF had the moral high ground for a while but I'm bored of them sending messages through their sources and basically acting no better than Harry

Honestly OP, they are in a £16m mansion right now. They are probably following a campaign planned by their PR company to keep them relevant and the income flowing.

ohforarainyday · 11/06/2021 18:04

I think we've had about five or six posters claiming to have "a friend in Hollywood" who once rang them up to say they were working with the bitchiest, nastiest actress they'd ever met, her name was MEGHAN MARKLE, and that this conversation happened many years ago long before Meghan met Harry or was on Suits so deffo no jealousy involved.

Because sure you'd remember the name of someone you'd not met who you'd heard about once in a phone call for years afterwards. GrinGrinGrin

All practically word for word identical too.

Frownette · 11/06/2021 18:15

@RickiTarr hmm, a republic is starting to sound appealing

Serenster · 11/06/2021 18:21

Genuine, true story - I have friend who used to work with someone who left to take a fairly senior role at one of the Palace teams. They have stayed in touch, but apparently never ever pass on even the smallest titbit about their job. Disappointing (well, I think so Grin ), but they hire people on the basis that confidentiality is fundamental, and apparently staff like to live that value, as the saying goes.

Fluffycloudland77 · 11/06/2021 18:24

@Darklane

I see nothing to indicate that the Queen is upset

Her flowers on Philips coffin had the one word Lillibet on the card & she specifically requested that nobody else used the name in future as it was very personal to her & her husband after her parents died.
I got this from a relative who is on the staff at Windsor.

🥺

Poor woman.

Frownette · 11/06/2021 18:27

Trouble is we don't know what's true or not with all these sources!

Viviennemary · 11/06/2021 18:32

Its not just the use of the nsme. Its the registering of the name as brand which was done the day after the baby was born. Utterly dreadful. If anybody owns the name Lilibet it's the Queen not them.

Samcro · 11/06/2021 18:39

@Darklane

I see nothing to indicate that the Queen is upset

Her flowers on Philips coffin had the one word Lillibet on the card & she specifically requested that nobody else used the name in future as it was very personal to her & her husband after her parents died.
I got this from a relative who is on the staff at Windsor.

What absolute tosh.
ICanSmellSummerComing · 11/06/2021 18:40
  • lilibet is not a totally unique made up nickname for our queen. I've got an aunt who has always been lilibet! It's very common so the idea they have used a very personal special name / yes, but it's also a common derivative of Elizabeth which has many of them.

I really don't understand the absolute anger over them. A lady in our office was so riled up talking about them, so venomous it's disturbing!

We are all born free but not apparently if your Harry!!

GlencoraP · 11/06/2021 18:48

It’s not a unique name but it’s unique in her family. It’s not as if it’s a totally random choice. In that family it is uniquely associated with the Queen.

I don’t feel angry with them, I think they are rather misguided. I actually feel sorry for Meghan, I think she is being gaslighted by Harry a lot of the time, I think she probably had no idea how fragile his mental health was and is now in a situation over which she has very little control. She is continually being put into situations created by him feeding her information which turns out to be at best imagined and at worst dishonest. She’s constantly trying to ‘make it better’ but it will never be better because he believes the world is out to get him.

SnoopyLights · 11/06/2021 18:58

I feel very sorry for Meghan with regards to people's opinions on her family estrangement.

We have estranged from my husband's parents and his eldest sibling, and it's not a decision that comes easily or one that happens overnight. I have been blamed for 'making' him cut off his 'real' family, and I have been treated badly and found this hard.

So I have some sympathy for Meghan being blamed for taking Harry away from his own family and judged for estranging from her own. I also feel that many people don't understand the pain that deciding to estrange can cause, or understand why it sometimes is the only option left to people.

My in-laws are very good at presenting themselves as victims in this situation, and I recognise a lot of what they do in the things I've seen Meghan's father and sister say to the press.

Harry is also a grown man in his 30's, who has had an Armed Forces career and a high profile position as one of the people in line for the throne. He can make his own decisions in his life.

I do feel they are making the mistake of trying too hard to explain and justify what's happening. That's a normal response to an estrangement situation but it never goes well. They need to step back from this side of their publicity as it is backfiring on them. They need to talk about this with each other, with friends who won't go to the press, or with therapists, but not with the media or anyone they can't trust to keep their confidence.

The Piers Morgan fixation on Meghan needs to end. By his admission, he met her once for a brief time, in public, in the company of her friends. She hasn't snubbed him, she hasn't done anything to disturb the obsession with her that he seems to have. He needs to leave her be and accept she has no interest in him.

Frownette · 11/06/2021 19:09

I think she did cut him off after they met but not sure why he's so livid about it.

It's embarrassing to watch though.

EdithWeston · 11/06/2021 19:12

@ICanSmellSummerComing

* lilibet is not a totally unique made up nickname for our queen. I've got an aunt who has always been lilibet! It's very common so the idea they have used a very personal special name / yes, but it's also a common derivative of Elizabeth which has many of them.

I really don't understand the absolute anger over them. A lady in our office was so riled up talking about them, so venomous it's disturbing!

We are all born free but not apparently if your Harry!!

I've been trying to look up the history of the name, it's frosting on google because of the latest news/gossip stories are dominating.

My name books from the early 20thC either don't list it, or a bit later but still first half mention it referencing the then Princess Elizabeth.

Was your aunt born before the queen, or before the Crawfie book?

I can't think of any earlier literary ones. Anyone come across any from before the 1920s when researching their family tress?