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I think harry is really brave

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ssd · 21/05/2021 09:18

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

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PandaLady · 22/05/2021 08:57

These posts are spot on. DH and I saw the clip on tv last night he of Harry talking about his 'drinking'. He drank on a weekend night and not during the week. Wow.

He may have lost titles and the enormous RF wage, but he is still earning a good living from being a Royal isn't he? He has thrown his family under a bus in pure spite.

I used to really like him.

Roussette · 22/05/2021 09:00

There's no doubt that he has had a difficult/troubled ubpringing but he doesn't seem to realise that there are somethings that as an adult you get help for yourself, not ask the family that are the problem!

If he was struggling with his MH after his mother's tragic death, I doubt he could get help for himself, given he's a member of the RF.

Jahebejrjr · 22/05/2021 09:01

I think he is really unwell and the interviews feel extremely exploitative. If I were his family I would be straight on a plane to give him what help I could.

ChoChoCrazyCat · 22/05/2021 09:02

Some of these comments are just awful. "Whingeing", "victim mentality", "should just get on with it" etc. in response to someone speaking out about struggling with his mental health. No wonder there's still stigma.

I do agree though that he isn't going about things in a good way and is being exploited by the media for ratings. But I don't think he deserves all the hate. I don't think he's said anything THAT bad about his family, and none of us know them or know the full story about what's been going on (lol at the poster whose "cousin's friend" is friends with him and apparently knows it all. Yeah, gossip and Chinese whispers are always accurate Hmm)

I think he is actually very unwell and not coping as well as he thinks he is. Yes, William went through the same thing and is doing what's expected of him as a royal, but people are different and have different ways of coping (or not). As for doing it purely for the money...seems unlikely. They can make money in so many ways and have so many opportunities open to them because of who they are. A few million £ from interviews is probably not even that much money to them.

LeilaLiesLow · 22/05/2021 09:02

If he was struggling with his MH after his mother's tragic death, I doubt he could get help for himself, given he's a member of the RF.

What? You are joking, surely?

The Royals have access to everyone and anyone. They access the best drs and anyone they need. There is even an operating theatre in Buck House.

Diana used to see all kinds of people including astrologers etc.

I am sure a counsellor could have been smuggled in, if necessary.

CathyorClaire · 22/05/2021 09:03

Surely he could have waited a bit longer or was he that desperate to share his story and upset his grieving father and grandmother even further

If he wants to maximise the $$$ he can't wait. He's always been on borrowed time and Covid scuppered his plans to emote at gullible bankers on the lucrative after dinner circuit.

He's like a sportsman who compresses all his earning power into a few years on the field only with far less time left before the world moves on.

Ocsetldil · 22/05/2021 09:04

If he was struggling with his MH after his mother's tragic death, I doubt he could get help for himself, given he's a member of the RF.

Where is your evidence for this?

IcedPurple · 22/05/2021 09:06

@LeilaLiesLow

If he was struggling with his MH after his mother's tragic death, I doubt he could get help for himself, given he's a member of the RF.

What? You are joking, surely?

The Royals have access to everyone and anyone. They access the best drs and anyone they need. There is even an operating theatre in Buck House.

Diana used to see all kinds of people including astrologers etc.

I am sure a counsellor could have been smuggled in, if necessary.

I think it's part of Harry's weird narrative that everyone in the royal family is cold and unfeeling... and then Meghan came along and saved him from his 'toxic' family.

I also don't believe he couldn't have had access to the very best of help if he needed it. Also, wouldn't Eton have counsellors, or at least people trained to refer pupils to the appropriate experts?

LittleBearPad · 22/05/2021 09:07

The relationship with Dodi was very short. I recall it clearly and there was no racism in the comments. If there was anything, it was the fact he was the son of a shopkeeper, albeit a very posh shop.

Al Fayed was refused a British passport a number of times because of various shady activities including bribing MPs to ask questions in parliament. It wasn’t so much that he owned Harrods

blueangel19 · 22/05/2021 09:09

Harry brave? Nah... I can think of other more suitable words to describe him.

Roussette · 22/05/2021 09:10

What? You are joking, surely?

Why am I joking? He said he was met with a blank wall

StellaLeonte · 22/05/2021 09:11

He’s monetising verbal attacks on his family and just sounds like a right whinge bag in my opinion. The irony of calling that programme ‘The Me You Can’t See’ - it’s ALL I see when I check the news and I could do with a break from it tbh. I have a mental health disorder and I think that he’s hurting himself more than healing himself at this point.

IcedPurple · 22/05/2021 09:11

@Roussette

What? You are joking, surely?

Why am I joking? He said he was met with a blank wall

Oh, well, if Harry said it then it must be true.

Despite the fact that a lot of what he has said is inconsistent at best.

TruelyStruttingHotpants · 22/05/2021 09:12

He was given help when his mother died though. The man has spent years in counselling before ever getting married. He has said this in previous interviews. It is the therapy since getting engaged that seems to be raking up his emotions. That makes me question what exactly is going on there. Sounds like rather than a listening or working on yourself type therapy. He is undergoing a questioning one. The trouble with this try of therapy the therapist can trigger bad memories or even ask leading questions. If they aren't very professional.

lollipoprainbow · 22/05/2021 09:15

@ChoChoCrazyCat totally agree and the horrific daily mail articles criticising him and joking about his mental health are disgusting. The media are all for talking about mental health one minute then slating it the next they should be ashamed of themselves.

Nickynackynooo · 22/05/2021 09:17

Sometimes it takes only an hour to get a reputation that lasts for a thousand years

goldierocks · 22/05/2021 09:17

I think that Buzzfeed article posted up-thread is deliberately disingenuous.

Take the Kate 'baby botox' article, which is often provided as an example of when Kensington Palace (KP) treated the Duchess of Cambridge and Duchess of Sussex differently.

A clinic close to KP posted an advertisement for botox using Kate's face, saying that she'd had botox following the birth of prince Louis. It heavily implied that she was a client of that clinic. KP issued a statement and the advert was withdrawn.

An advertisement appeared in the same year for diet pills, this time using a picture of the Duchess of Sussex. KP issued a very similarly worded statement and the advert was withdrawn.

In this particular case, both women were treated the same.

lollipoprainbow · 22/05/2021 09:17

Why doesn't his dad get on a plane over there and try talking to his son instead of all this ridiculous stiff upper lip and brushing things under the carpet nonsense. He's clearly struggling.

Roussette · 22/05/2021 09:24

I think that Buzzfeed article posted up-thread is deliberately disingenuous

Yeah course it is Hmm
There are many cases, not just that one, like the hair extensions

Roussette · 22/05/2021 09:25

But thank you for reading it. Anything that is linked disputing some of the stuff on M&H threads is mostly ignored.

User5485421134 · 22/05/2021 09:28

No one is listening to those interviews for insight on mental health. It's entirely about his one and only USP - finally hearing the dirty secrets of the royal family. People saying otherwise are kidding themselves.

Yes exactly this!! It's just become salacious gossip and the media love it for headlines. The irony is the places like DM are making bank just by putting out 10 articles a day with clickbait headlines Harry is supplying. They've probably earned back all the costs of the trial they lost to Meghan already.

Average people with MH problems are usually aware they have MH problems and if they delay seeking help, it's usually due to a combination of factors that have nothing to do with "lack of awareness". I daresay far more people have ended up seeking help as a result of anonymous MN users encouraging them to than those who have a massive revelation after watching two multi-millionaires talking about their struggles on Netflix.

And to the PP say that rich people are not allowed to have problems. Of course they are and lots do. However the logistics of seeking help and the array of treatment options are vastly different. If you're a multi-millionaire/billionaire you can afford the best private therapy anywhere and anytime you like. You can afford to stop working for a few weeks or even months while you get the care you need. You can afford to take holidays to get the headspace to recover. You can do all this literally 24 hours after you decide you need help because you are not bound by waiting lists and insurance approval.

Harry seems to be portraying himself as an influencer where the only "content" he has to offer is his MH struggles. He seems to think (or was manipulated into thinking) that these struggles are relatable to a wider audience as opposed to every other element of his life which are certainly not relatable to anyone. However he never earned the fandom or trust of the audience in first place. Edited interviews with tear jerking music is also counter productive to authenticity. Any Youtuber's vlog filmed without cuts feels more relatable than the cringy af clip of him tapping.

Frownette · 22/05/2021 09:28

@lollipoprainbow it hadn't crossed my mind about Prince Charles visiting Confused

They'd probably be quite proud to show off their new home and lifestyle. I suppose if RF want to build bridges that would be an option, it's a little soon after his father's death though and depends on other commitments

Triphazard101 · 22/05/2021 09:30

I think both Harry and Meghan have been unfairly targeted, and portrayed in certain areas of the press which has influenced how the public view them. After all very few people will know them personally, and even "friend of a friend" type connections can give a distorted perception of what they are really like.

Different forms of media will always spin or twist a story to suit their own agenda or appeal to their target audience. Harry might (quite rightly) despise the british tabloid press and paparazzi photographers, but feel that with Oprah and his own tv company he can put his side of the story across in a more controlled way.

The problem is that as soon as a podcast, interview, or tv programme is "out there" any area of the media (including all the ones he hates) can see it, review it and put their own slant on it, and influence their audience. I havent heard the podcast, or seen the apple tv programme, neither am I likely to, but i could access a number of articles, like the one from The Guardian that a pp linked, for example , giving their take on it, and draw any conclusions from that.

I did see the Oprah interview and I did feel sympathy with them (although I was slightly confused about them being unable to access therapy or MH support) but while they feel that got their truth, or story out, or set the story straight, I felt like it gave loads more ammunition to the areas of the press who are already "against" them.

The Media is a huge behemoth that cant really be separated. He blames "the media" for Diana's death, and for making his and Meghans life unbearable.....but speaks to the allegedly trustworthy outlets to put his own story out....ignoring the fact that they are all part of the same machine.

Norked · 22/05/2021 09:34

@diddl I'm a bit confused about this statement of his re being ignored. In the first Oprah interview he said he was too embarrassed to ask for help for her?

LeilaLiesLow · 22/05/2021 09:38

@Roussette

What? You are joking, surely?

Why am I joking? He said he was met with a blank wall

It comes over as a joke to believe that anyone, especially in the RF, cannot access help they need.

The problem with these interviews is they allow H to say what he wants without much context or any deep questioning.

By 'help' he could have meant anything - my guess is he wanted M to be allowed to opt out of public appearances, but who knows.

I am sure that when Diana died, both he and William were offered all kinds of help via counsellors. And as an adult, Harry had the means to access whatever he wanted.

Charles is very much involved in therapy and mental health- he established Dumfries House in Scotland which is a wellbeing centre.
He's often cast as this cold, closed down man, whereas if you look behind the headlines, he's the very opposite. He did a lot of charitable work the press never knew of, because he didn't want any fuss or for it to be about him.

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