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Billie Eilish in Vogue

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JoyOrbison · 02/05/2021 23:00

Has anyone seen the interview and pics?

In contrast to Billie's usual look of large clothes, avoiding a look of what is traditionally /media hyped as femine (tight or revealing clothes, lots of make up etc) Billie is pictured in retro underwear, blonde hair, flawless make up and says it makes her feel more like a woman.

Ffs, like our dcs needed another stereotypical woman posing in underwear... She cut such an unique no nonsense look and has been a breath of fresh air especially to. Girls t
And now there is this.

Change your style etc yes, but to basically mimic something that is such an age old entrenched style when it goes against what you previously stood for and what your fans looked up to. You for? It just seems such a shame for all. Those younger fans that saw her as saying it's okay to be different... Now it seems its not.

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nevernotstruggling · 03/05/2021 00:02

I don't like her music at all but I liked the fact she didn't used to 'perform femininity'. Oh but she has now.

EdwinPootsLovesArchaeology · 03/05/2021 00:02

It says she's 19.

Totalbeach · 03/05/2021 00:28

Oh that's so sad.

I feel the same about Adele tbh.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 03/05/2021 00:48

@MyDcAreMarvel

She looks beautiful, elegant and feminine can’t see the issue at all.
Before this, she presented herself as talented, powerful and self-assured. Beautiful, elegant and feminine does seem rather a demotion.
Ijustreallywantacat · 03/05/2021 00:59

I think she looks great, and the interview was interesting. Lord help us if the girl was compelled to keep hanging on to her teenage style. I would still be an awkward goth today if I was!

'Dissapointed' in a person for wearing a corset Hmm

SinisterBumFacedCat · 03/05/2021 01:00

I get the feeling that in men in suits are making the decisions about how she should look here, resulting in people getting angry with her for how she is being presented. It’s happened before, will happen again, men still hold all the power in this industry but women get all the blame.

ViciousJackdaw · 03/05/2021 01:02

Before this, she presented herself as talented, powerful and self-assured. Beautiful, elegant and feminine does seem rather a demotion

Surely it is possible to be talented, powerful, self-assured as well as being beautiful, elegant and feminine? Anyway, who are we to tell other women how to dress?

TDMN · 03/05/2021 01:02

Honestly, good on her. She's 19, she has body confidence issues, she got dragged online for having a normal body, she wants to change her look up to go with a new album, she's gone for this. She's 19! She's not responsible for the weight of you wanting a role model who dresses modestly for your child, nor should she stay the same forever if thats not what she wants.
Oh and dressing feminine doesnt diminish your power... If you think someone showing some skin means their value as an artist or role model has been diminished in some way, then that is your internalised misogyny speaking surely....

MoreRainbowsPlease · 03/05/2021 01:04

I thought she refers to feeling more like a woman with the changing of her hair colour. I took from the interview that this change of style is to do with her growing up and what she likes and wants to do changing. I know she is till very young, but there is a big difference in how you like to dress at 15 and then how you like to dress as an older teen.

It has always seemed to me that Billie has been surrounded by people who do have her best interests at heart and know she is an adult they are backing off and she is discovering how she can take control of her life and image. I don't think she is backing down on anything she has said before. In the interview she says that you shouldn't have to conform to what others think you should.

I just took from the article that she is growing up and is just trying out new things. The shots are very tastefully done and aren't really that revealing. As long as she's doing it because she wants to then I see no problem with it.

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/05/2021 01:08

@ViciousJackdaw

Before this, she presented herself as talented, powerful and self-assured. Beautiful, elegant and feminine does seem rather a demotion

Surely it is possible to be talented, powerful, self-assured as well as being beautiful, elegant and feminine? Anyway, who are we to tell other women how to dress?

It is possible. However, the PP didn't seem to give a crap about BE's other qualities. Just that she looks three things that are boringly required and frequently disempowering.

As for telling other women how to dress, that sort of the point. BE was a role model who said, "I'll dress outside the accepted and narrow norms for a female star." There's so much emphasis on how young women look, it was nice to briefly have a role model who espoused the message that it was important how you preformed. She can dress how she likes. Disappointing that it conforms rigidly to what is expected of female stars now.

Blondiney · 03/05/2021 01:09

Same shit, different toilet roll.

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 03/05/2021 01:12

Listening to her song "Your power" I'm wondering if it's related to her change in image.

Regardless why, she has the right to experiment with hair colours and dress styles just like any other woman around the world.

Limiting her because she's "a role model to your daughter" is just as bad as producers demanding she dresses a certain way.

I still think she's quirky, different and cool. One photoshoot and blonde hair dye won't change that.

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 03/05/2021 01:13

@TDMN

Honestly, good on her. She's 19, she has body confidence issues, she got dragged online for having a normal body, she wants to change her look up to go with a new album, she's gone for this. She's 19! She's not responsible for the weight of you wanting a role model who dresses modestly for your child, nor should she stay the same forever if thats not what she wants. Oh and dressing feminine doesnt diminish your power... If you think someone showing some skin means their value as an artist or role model has been diminished in some way, then that is your internalised misogyny speaking surely....
Except it always seems to be the female artists showing some skin and there is a long history of female artists feeling pressured to present themselves in a particular way.

BTS are the biggest boy band on the planet and they're nearly always in suits. Little Mix are probably the female equivalent and they're running around in hot pants and corsets.

TDMN · 03/05/2021 01:22

@PuttingOnTheKitsch yep totally recognise that there's a long history there. But having read/seen bits/pieces here and there, she has a really strong family support team that have previously travelled around with her, she's spoken multiple times about how she controls her image and body image in general, and in an IG post for one of the Vogue photos she specifically thanks the Vogue team for respecting her vision for the shoot. Of course, you never know - but i would be genuinely shocked considering the Vogue interview specifically talks about one of her lead singles off the album being on the topic of men in the industry taking advantage of young girls.

Wilsonwilson · 03/05/2021 01:22

I think she is creepy as fuck, she looks so out of it/dead eyed. Wtf is going on with her.

Ozgirl75 · 03/05/2021 01:44

I’m in two minds. When I was 15/16 I use to dress in jeans and t shirts, ripped jumpers and DM boots. Not really because I was ashamed of my figure but because it was the fashion (90s) and also I guess I didn’t really want to be seen for my boobs (which were a bit bigger than I would have liked) and figure in general. It wasn’t a big thing, that was just my style.
But if, at 19, Vogue had said “let’s dress you up and make you look really beautiful” I would probably have jumped at it. And then would have put on boots and jeans to go home! It doesn’t mean she always has to dress like this now.
Plus, your style changes considerably from 16-19 in a way it probably doesn’t between say 30-33.
On the other hand, she has always been quite outspoken about covering up etc and she is, whether she likes it or not, a role model for girls, so if this is the new image, it does seem a shame as it’s such a different look. But I do get it. When I started work as a lawyer I was desperate to be taken seriously so I wore trouser suits, shirts, mid heel boots, hair tied up in a bun, anything to look quite dowdy and serious. Then at the Christmas party I wore a beautiful clingy dress and high heels, make up and had my hair done and I’m not gonna lie, it was so fun to have people do a literal double take Grin. So I guess I fall on the “she’s a young woman, let her experiment and have fun, it’s just dressing up”

Ijustreallywantacat · 03/05/2021 01:56

"On the other hand, she has always been quite outspoken about covering up etc and she is, whether she likes it or not, a role model for girls, so if this is the new image, it does seem a shame as it’s such a different look."

Politely, she has not been outspoken about the fact that she will always cover up for the rest of her life, or that doing so is the 'right thing to do do.'

Now she feels good wearing this stuff, so she is. Still looks bloody talented, powerful and self-assured to me. Corests are uncomfortable but BLOODY HELL did I feel good wearing one, BTW!

RonaldMcDonald · 03/05/2021 01:59

She looks amazing
As always
She can dress as she chooses
She owes us nothing, nor does any other woman
She is vastly talented young and changing her look
It isn’t our business
If,you don’t like it look away

Ozgirl75 · 03/05/2021 02:05

Oh I’m sure she hasn’t said “that’s it, I’m in this baggy top forever” but as far as I know (and I confess I know a minimal amount about this woman!) she has said that she covers up as she wants to be judged on music, not looks. And then to dress in underwear is quite a different approach, but I figure “live your life”, she is young and should be able to change her look.
She must have realised there would be some comment though as it’s so different to her normal style. But anyway, it’s just clothes.

NiceGerbil · 03/05/2021 02:07

It's more the girls who were inspired by her previous stance that it's a shame for.

Of course she can wear what she likes- it's not really about that, more the massive change.

Do posters really see no issue with such a young woman with loads of young female fans saying if you want surgery then go for it?

Ozgirl75 · 03/05/2021 02:09

I think if I had a young girl, I would sigh and wish that there were more female singers who didn’t feel the need to appear in their bra though.

I have Pre teen boys and even my oldest has said “why do girl singers wear their underwear in videos and not the boys?” as even on Nick Music the difference in what the men and women wear is pretty stark. At the moment they’re kind of embarrassed about it (like when they walk in and I’m getting dressed!) but it’s definitely been noted.

Victoriabythesea · 03/05/2021 02:13

Why does she need to be someone did children to look upto? She's a person, a young woman growing up and finding her own style and her own comfort in how she looks. I see no problem with her dressing in a way she wants to to feel good.

Ozgirl75 · 03/05/2021 02:17

She doesn’t need to be. She just is. Anyone in the public eye is to some extent whether they like it or not.

NiceGerbil · 03/05/2021 02:30

Of course she can do as she pleases. No one has said otherwise.

The fact is she has loads of young female fans who consumed her messages about not wanting the focus to be on her body but her music. There's very few women in pop etc who say/ do that sort of thing.

So yes she was inspiring for them. I don't think that's tricky to understand iyswim.

So when she does a sudden 360 and says if you want surgery go for it, then that's a bit of a head fuck for all those girls.

That's all. And it's not really about her as a person she can do as she wishes. More about the impact on young female fans of it. Which is not her responsibility, obviously. And some women thinking well that's a shame is ok as well.

Ozgirl75 · 03/05/2021 02:35

Agree. I can understand female fans thinking “but I believed the messages she said. If I wanted to like a female singer who was all about the mini outfits and sexiness, I have a myriad to choose from. I liked her because she was different. And now maybe she isn’t different”.
Giving girls the message that you don’t need surgery as you are growing and changing and to like yourself as you are and that sexiness isn’t the most important thing is such a strong message to come from another young woman, when young women today are bombarded with lip fillers, Botox, hair extensions, being sexy at all times.