Is there anywhere on the coast that sells VEGAN fish & chips?

[BrittanyKAMA]

Hi, I’ve been vegan for years, but woke up this morning to a drizzly bank holiday weekend and have this yearning to sit on a beach eating fish & chips.

I know you can buy vegan ‘fish’ but I wondered if anyone knew of anywhere on the coast that sells it?

Many thanks.

@kikisparks

Why is it ok for people to come on this post and slag off vegans, we don’t go on posts where people are talking about having a nice steak or whatever and slag off non vegans.

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Aye, right.

To all those bashing vegans / vegetarians: I would love some vegan fish and chips. Why? Because I find the idea of eating dead flesh repulsive. I wouldn’t eat my pets and see farm animals in the same way. Its an absolute head fuck for me the way most people look at dead flesh and think ‘dinner’.
I’m not vegan but could easily be as I find the idea of eggs and milk repulsive too. And the idea of taking calves away from the cow so we can use their milk is cruel.

I wouldn’t say that I’m dogmatic in the least. I never talk about my views in real life unless meal choices are involved or discussing recipes etc.

Some people are capable of making principled choices in a quite unobtrusive way, you know.

I was brought up vegetarian so it’s just normal for me. In fact when DH said he was going veggie I was (weirdly) a bit annoyed as I thought his family would blame me for converting him. They’re a bit like some of the posters on this thread, and knew they’d be negative and judgmental about it.

'it won't be fish and it won't taste like fish, so what's the point?'

An enjoyable seaside meal that didn’t involve killing anything?

Of course. But like I said, you can have that by eating the chips with some mushy peas and a bread roll. Why the need for vegan 'fish'? Just why? It won't be very nice, it won't really taste like fish, it's a totally unnecessary irrelevance to the whole seaside fish and chip shop experience.

I sometimes think vegans get a self-aggrandising kick out of performance-eating all these Frankenstein foods that didn't really exist until a few years ago, just so that everyone knows they are a vegan. They could just quietly get on with ordering and enjoying their chips and mushy peas when they go to a fish and chip shop, and no-one even needs to know they are vegan. But clearly that would defeat the object, wouldn't it?

@YouJustFoldItIn

'it won't be fish and it won't taste like fish, so what's the point?'

An enjoyable seaside meal that didn’t involve killing anything?

Of course. But like I said, you can have that by eating the chips with some mushy peas and a bread roll. Why the need for vegan 'fish'? Just why? It won't be very nice, it won't really taste like fish, it's a totally unnecessary irrelevance to the whole seaside fish and chip shop experience.

I sometimes think vegans get a self-aggrandising kick out of performance-eating all these Frankenstein foods that didn't really exist until a few years ago, just so that everyone knows they are a vegan. They could just quietly get on with ordering and enjoying their chips and mushy peas when they go to a fish and chip shop, and no-one even needs to know they are vegan. But clearly that would defeat the object, wouldn't it?

Are you ok hun? 🤔

Hi OP, I think battered banana blossom fish alternative is very tasty, I've had it in a country pub no where near the sea and never seen it when I have been to the seaside personally. Maybe it will become more of a thing.

I think this list may be of use to you www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.peta.org.uk/living/vegan-fish-and-chips/%3famp

Also, there is a massive surge in the popularity plant based diets right now that is totally separate from ‘veganism as an ideology’ brigade. Dogmatic vegans do exist but it’s a stereotype .

www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g186345-d2711083-Reviews-Robertsons_Chips_away-Whitby_Scarborough_District_North_Yorkshire_England.html Yorkshire coastal fish and chip shop that doesn’t use beef dripping.

If you're in Swansea (bit of a long shot) then Canteen 18 does amazing tofish and chips

Tofu and chips. It's tofu.

And tofu has neither the flavour nor the texture of fish. Even if you add a bit of seaweed, it will taste of the sea but it won't taste of fish. Seriously, how easily manipulated are people, that a factory chopped and shaped shaped lump of tofu/quorn/seitan/jackfruit or whatever into the shape of a bit of cod, and batter it, and people will proclaim it to be 'amazing' vegan fish? It might taste amazing - that's a matter of opinion. But why the weird need to describe it as vegan fish, or tofish? JUST WHY? I don't get it.

I'm starting to feel like the little boy in The Emperor's New Clothes.

@Yorkterrier, I'd check your stats if I were you. Some grains go down animals - a lot of them not of food grade. Much of the crop that goes down animals is stuff humans can't eat (grass, hulls left after milling etc) or which has been used as a soil improver or to rest the ground to reduce pests without using pesticides (stubble turnips, various vetches). I deliberately stayed right off this thread till the vegan propaganda took off. I don't feel remotely bad about most of my food choices, so don't try that one.

@kikisparks, seriously? I sometimes look at an OP and think ah, the vegans will be along soon. And ten or fifteen posts in, there's the vegan, have you thought about going cruelty free... The poor baby lambs... I couldn't face eating dead flesh myself... There is so much delicious vegan food available that I don't know why anyone eats meat or dairy...

I'm just sick of the evangelism. It's like keen new Christians at uni, desperate to spread the Word and convert the heathen.

Youjustfold, can I address your point about vegan/ veggie alternatives such as fish and sausages?

Sometimes I have these because they make meal planning easy and because I’m British, I like the idea of some of the comforting traditional British dishes.

I much prefer Middle Eastern, Indian or Mediterranean food that is naturally veggie/ vegan but sometimes want something a bit plain. And too many pulses don’t work for me. So a veggie sausage sandwiches or soya mince shepherds pie allow me to have British cuisine too.

I can assure you that virtue signalling has absolutely nothing to do with it. It’s about having a bit of protein/ a complete dish rather than a snack meal/ half a meal.

YouJust, with regards to your last point, calling it tofish is helpful to me as it tells me which traditional British meal it’ll be approximated to in its cooking and presentation. So fried in batter rather than stir fried in Asian spices. But ‘battered tofu’ would be equally good at doing that so it’s just a name. (See my previous post about British traditional meals).

I would love some vegan fish and chips. Why? Because I find the idea of eating dead flesh repulsive.

Then you don't want vegan fish do you, you want a vegan alternative to fish.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with vegan food, nothing at all. Just call it what it is though without all the smoke and mirrors. I rolled my eyes enormously at the "vegan chicken" and "vegan smoked salmon" in Sainsbury's.

@SoupDragon

I would love some vegan fish and chips. Why? Because I find the idea of eating dead flesh repulsive.

Then you don't want vegan fish do you, you want a vegan alternative to fish.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with vegan food, nothing at all. Just call it what it is though without all the smoke and mirrors. I rolled my eyes enormously at the "vegan chicken" and "vegan smoked salmon" in Sainsbury's.

I would say that's implied though. Is it really necessary to put 'alternative to' in the middle? It's obvious enough that is what it means, but it seems to anger some greatly.

Soup, as I stated above it’s just about signposting me to which dish it’s approximating itself to. Meat eaters would like to know if their chicken is satay, roast, nuggets etc. If you just say chicken, you don’t get a sense of the dish. Same with tofu. Although I agree that the wording can be a bit silly sometimes.

To all those bashing vegans / vegetarians: I would love some vegan fish and chips. Why? Because I find the idea of eating dead flesh repulsive.

Then why hanker for vegan 'fish' and chips? It's not fish that you want, is it? Even if you are eschewing fish for environmental reasons when you actually love the taste, that's fine. You can eat what you like for any reason you like. Just stop calling it the thing you are trying to avoid and properly 'own' what you are eating instead of animal products.

It isn't 'vegan cheese' or 'vegan fish' or 'vegan butter' (it's margerine or olive oil spread which has been around forever - vegans just reinvented the wheel). It's not 'vegan chicken' (it's seitan) and it's not 'vegan mayonnaise.' It's tofu put through a blender then whipped with oil. So call it tofu spread or sauce or something. And it's certainly not 'vegan leather'. It's plastic. And it's what shoes have been made of since the 50's if you couldn't afford or didn't want leather. That's fine - but stop calling it 'vegan leather' like you just invented it as a vegan solution to a problem. You didn't. As for shops labelling things as such, it just leads me to believe that vegans must generally be a little bit dim and very suspeptible to brainwashing, if they can't see that a plastic shoe is just a common-or-garden plastic shoe, rather than 'vegan leather' which has only started to appear on manufacturers' labelling very recently.

There is no shame in eating/using these things if you like them, or are at least partially deluded that it is the absolute key to saving the world. Just stop trying to convince yourself and everyone else that they are something they are not. Eat battered banana blossom, by all means. Just don't call it vegan fish. Eat a seitan burger. Just don't call it vegan chicken.

YouJust, I don’t care what they actually call these products. They can add the word ‘style’ or ‘alternative’ as an improvement perhaps. Eg Could be leather style plastic rather than Croc style plastic for your shoe example . Both very different! I refer you to my previous comments about signposting the consumer. I’m not at all delusional but I find product descriptions helpful if they allude to the product they’re imitating to aid consumer choice. HTH

@YouCanCallMeBob

Soup, as I stated above it’s just about signposting me to which dish it’s approximating itself to. Meat eaters would like to know if their chicken is satay, roast, nuggets etc. If you just say chicken, you don’t get a sense of the dish. Same with tofu. Although I agree that the wording can be a bit silly sometimes.

Meat eaters would like to know if their chicken is satay, roast, nuggets etc

Yes, which is they they use those words. Because that is what the dish is. They don't claim it is something it isn't. There is no such thing as vegan fish - it is an impossibility. Just use the proper descriptions!

Eg do want to buy just chicken or would the terms Asian style chicken, barbecue style chicken or tikka style chicken aid your consumer choice? Or can it only say tikka if it’s cooked in a tandoor oven or whatever?!

I much prefer Middle Eastern, Indian or Mediterranean food that is naturally veggie/ vegan but sometimes want something a bit plain. And too many pulses don’t work for me. So a veggie sausage sandwiches or soya mince shepherds pie allow me to have British cuisine too.

Yes I understand that. And a soya mince shepherd's pie or a vegetarian sausage is fine in my opinion, so long as you are not trying to call the soya mince 'vegan lamb/beef' or 'vegan sausagemeat' but that implies that it is something it's not. Soya is an ingredient in its own right and should be labelled as such.

Soup. See my post above.

I don't care what vegan equivalents are called either. I say this as a meat eater. It is just a decriptive term for a food product that helps people who want to avoid meat and dairy make a decision on what to choose from a menu.

Eg Could be leather style plastic rather than Croc style plastic for your shoe example.

Agreed. So the descriptor they are looking for is 'fake leather' or 'leather-look polyurethane.'

It's not 'vegan leather.'

@YouCanCallMeBob

YouJust, I don’t care what they actually call these products. They can add the word ‘style’ or ‘alternative’ as an improvement perhaps. Eg Could be leather style plastic rather than Croc style plastic for your shoe example . Both very different! I refer you to my previous comments about signposting the consumer. I’m not at all delusional but I find product descriptions helpful if they allude to the product they’re imitating to aid consumer choice. HTH

The point is it isn't fish. To use a previous example, it would be "beer battered tofu". Accurately signposting the consumer.

Yes it’s not vegan leather. I agree.

I just think some people are reading too much into the semantics and think all vegans are delusional. It’s mainly just about giving those descriptors, for me at least.

Yes I agree, Soup. See my post at 9.37 :)