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What will happen when the Queen dies???

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GizmoBasil · 15/04/2021 14:59

Just pondering after Phillips death.

My view is the country will lose a lot of it's stability for a period of time, and I say that as a closeted Republican. She's all anyone alive has really ever known. It will be quite a time of massive change that's for certain.

The national anthem, money, names like HMRC - Will these all change overnight??

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Alsohuman · 17/04/2021 09:55

The Queen is rarely at BP so why do people think tourists are going to London because of the royal family?

You saw that question answered this week. Nobody at home there or at Sandringham but thousands of bouquets and candles taken there as well as Windsor.

It must be shit being a republican. Despite all their best efforts, the stubborn British public continue to regard the monarchy with affection and show no signs of wanting to lose it.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 09:55

I think people massively underestimate the part the Queen played in the decision to not have Beatrice, Eugenie and Edward's children as working royals.

The York girls are both in their 30s, decisions about their roles would have been made 10/15 years ago, if not before and the Queen was very much in charge at that point.

I think she was very aware that the situation with her and her cousins was something that was very much a necessity because of the early deaths of her father and the Duke of Kent and wasn't something that could really be done now.

dottiedodah · 17/04/2021 09:56

Be truly terrible I would think . She has been such a wonderful figurehead .Yes she is very privileged and has a comfortable lifestyle .However as my DS wisely pointed out recently ,her whole life is mapped out and she has little chance to do anything on the spur of the moment .Cant dye her hair purple ,or wear dungarees! Hopefully not for a long time .Her own DM was 101 when she passed!

Peregrina · 17/04/2021 10:04

I quite like the idea of the Queen dyeing her hair purple in her old age. The trouble is, it might be taken as a sign of dementia, rather than a delayed rebellion.

Pleasure · 17/04/2021 10:06

Does a slimmed down Monarchy mean it will cost us less or will fewer Royals get more?
Read 'And what do you do?' by Norman Baker for an excellent overview on the wealth and greed of our RF.

Lockdownbear · 17/04/2021 10:16

@JustLyra yes the decision only to have Charles kids as working Royals was taken years ago.
I'll guess it's probably 20+ years ago long before the girls made choices at school.

Neither the Queen or Charles would have anticipated Harry walking away.

But there is a bit of me thinks it could be Anne's kids that William turns to for support if he needs it.

Lockdownbear · 17/04/2021 10:19

@Peregrina

I quite like the idea of the Queen dyeing her hair purple in her old age. The trouble is, it might be taken as a sign of dementia, rather than a delayed rebellion.

The Queen with purple hair 😄 I could envisage a Granny purple rinse but not a full on purple hair!

But I'm sure she's sported dungarees in her time, either walking the dogs or in the ATS!

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 10:27

[quote Lockdownbear]@JustLyra yes the decision only to have Charles kids as working Royals was taken years ago.
I'll guess it's probably 20+ years ago long before the girls made choices at school.

Neither the Queen or Charles would have anticipated Harry walking away.

But there is a bit of me thinks it could be Anne's kids that William turns to for support if he needs it.[/quote]
They would have completely assumed that Harry, his wife and Andrew would be full time working royals.

I don’t think so. Peter Philips’ Chinese advertising gigs rule him out, not to mention he’s taken some shit in the past for his monetising his wedding and his company getting the jubilee gig, and Zara has her career and family.

I think they’ll simply have no choice but for William, Kate, Edward and Sophie to massively increase their workload to Charles/Anne/Queen levels. Which they wouldn’t have been planning for Kate to do until the children were older imo.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 10:28

Can you imagine the bookies if the Queen turned up to ascot or trooping with lilac hair “All bets were on her HAT colour only...hair doesn’t count”

Lockdownbear · 17/04/2021 10:32

One issue is in 15 years Ed and Sophie will be in their 70s. The others in their 80s.

Peter might have taken some minor shit but give it a bit of time and those things will be forgotten about.

The issue comes as the Charles generation age, William is looking pretty lonely and he won't want to shine the spotlight on George too soon.

Lockdownbear · 17/04/2021 10:32

@JustLyra

Can you imagine the bookies if the Queen turned up to ascot or trooping with lilac hair “All bets were on her HAT colour only...hair doesn’t count”

Havanananana · 17/04/2021 10:35

Does anyone have good examples of a country being better once they have dissolved the monarchy?

Top 10 world economies;

USA - Republic, got rid of the British monarchy in 1776
China - Republic
Japan - Monarchy
Germany - Republic, got rid of monarchy, which was closely related to the British monarchy, in 1918
India - Republic since 1947
France - Republic
UK
Italy - Republic since 1946
Brazil - Republic since 1822
Canada - Federal monarchy

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 10:40

The age difference between Charles and Edward will be helpful to William.

TheFourOhFour · 17/04/2021 10:56

Neither the Queen or Charles would have anticipated Harry walking away.

But there is a bit of me thinks it could be Anne's kids that William turns to for support if he needs it.[/quote]
Or people will just get used to more charities not having royal patrons, regiments etc not having honorary royal colonels and the like, and community centres being opened by non-royals?

Lockdownbear · 17/04/2021 10:58

That's very true.
If you think about the situation just now with Charles doing a chunk of the Queen's role. The same could easily happen again with William doing a chunk of Charles's role, it leaves a whopping great gap it sort of forces either cousins to step in or for George's generation to step up.

That is of course assuming that Harry will never return to Royal business. I doubt it will happen with Meghan by his side but...

Peregrina · 17/04/2021 11:13

Or people will just get used to more charities not having royal patrons, regiments etc not having honorary royal colonels and the like, and community centres being opened by non-royals?

Exactly, which is what must happen in the USA and France.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 11:23

They’ll cut down engagements before having cousins.

I’d eat my hat if Zara, Peter, Beatrice or Eugenie become full time working royals.

The personal charities of the retiring royals will just not have royal patrons anymore. The big ones they hold will already be noted and probably set up.

Things will also be able to be pulled together so they can have larger meetings. Princess Alexandra, for example, is patron of several mental health charities - any major players in that will slot into William and Kate’s portfolio fine as they can have meetings with 4/5 charities as easily as 2/3.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 11:25

By as easily I mean if they’re having a big meeting with reps from 2/3 MH charities it won’t be difficult to add another couple.

Alsohuman · 17/04/2021 11:40

Or people will just get used to more charities not having royal patrons, regiments etc not having honorary royal colonels and the like, and community centres being opened by non-royals?

The armed forces would fight for the monarchy to the death. Every single member swears allegiance to the monarch and it’s taken very seriously by them. All the major charities acknowledge that their work is enhanced by Royal patronage. Like I said, it must be so frustrating being a republican in this country.

PrelovedWithValue · 17/04/2021 11:53

It must be shit being a republican. Despite all their best efforts, the stubborn British public continue to regard the monarchy with affection and show no signs of wanting to lose it

It's really not. It's baffling. But it's not shit. A family with no discernible talent or skill, that regularly show themselves up, and for some reason many people love them. It's really quite peculiar.

But then people also obsess about the Kardashian, and I can't figure that out either.

Havanananana · 17/04/2021 12:00

All the major charities acknowledge that their work is enhanced by Royal patronage.

In what way? In the same way that a £multimillion hospital with hundreds of professional doctors and nurses, lab staff, technicians, admin staff, cleaners and cooks seemingly cannot possibly function properly unless and until some minor "Royal" has cut a ribbon, unveiled a plaque and muttered a few patronising words to the staff and patients?

Alsohuman · 17/04/2021 12:02

Yup, exactly the same way. The people who value, enjoy and get excited about royal visits are in the majority.

PrelovedWithValue · 17/04/2021 12:04

@Alsohuman

Yup, exactly the same way. The people who value, enjoy and get excited about royal visits are in the majority.

Just because the majority want it, doesn't necessarily make it the better option.

Brexit springs to mind...

Alsohuman · 17/04/2021 12:08

Nobody’s saying it’s the better option. In a democracy you get what the majority want though.

CovidCorvid · 17/04/2021 12:16

I wonder what will happen with the wearing a suit/uniform debacle at her funeral? Charles, William, etc will surely have to wear uniform at a state funeral.

Will Andrew insist on dressing up as an admiral, will Harry be the only one in a suit? Will Meghan come?

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