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Prince Philip has died

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YellowPurple · 09/04/2021 12:06

He died this morning

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SueSaid · 11/04/2021 12:27

'they're not wearing the uniforms just for the sake of the uniform - it's in their representative roles - Harry didn't want to be a working royal. The Queen is the head of the military.'

This! Fgs, representative or honorary roles. It really isn't rocket science is it.

Lockdownbear · 11/04/2021 12:28

Just done a Google images search they wore uniform for the Duke of Windsors funeral and William and Harry walked without uniform obviously too young.

I'd be surprised if those who can wear military uniform aren't in uniform.

Lockdownbear · 11/04/2021 12:30

Harry definitely gave it up.
You can't exactly have the head of any of the services living overseas, no longer committed to Queen and Country.
Think about it.

SueSaid · 11/04/2021 12:30

' be surprised if those who can wear military uniform aren't in uniform.'

I hope so. It would surely be a fitting tribute to Prince Philip though of course H will sulk that he will stick out like a sore thumb in a suit.

Lockdownbear · 11/04/2021 12:32

How much he sticks out will depend on who else walks, Peter and any of the Granddaughters & husbands won't be in uniform.

Marmaladeagain · 11/04/2021 12:35

Apparently it is rocket science Grin someone yesterday saying H ran off into the sunset because he didn't want to be a working royal and racism.

Trouble is we all know he wanted half-in and half-out, he didn't want to stop being a working royal, he just didn't want the boring bits.

Inconvenient truth to this re-writing of the "victim" Harry.

As above, like leaving a job and wanting to keep the company car. Before Harry handed his notice in at his job he did demand an upgrade to the same car the CEO. He got very upset when he was told - no, you only get the Ford Focus to drive as your future role is to move sideways and downwards and support the CEO not create your own job description as US royalty half-in, half-out.

Roussette · 11/04/2021 12:36

Because he voluntarily surrendered that right. He’s not a working royal any more. It’s like leaving a job and expecting to keep your company car and healthcare insurance

Neither is Andrew

Roussette · 11/04/2021 12:38

8It would surely be a fitting tribute to Prince Philip though of course H will sulk that he will stick out like a sore thumb in a suit*

Nice Hmm
You're talking about a man who did active service in Afghanistan.

SueSaid · 11/04/2021 12:40

'You're talking about a man who did active service in Afghanistan.'

Yes he did correct. Now he is ex service and could wear his medals. Nothing wrong with that.

SueSaid · 11/04/2021 12:41

'Trouble is we all know he wanted half-in and half-out, he didn't want to stop being a working royal, he just didn't want the boring bits.'

Indeed.

I can see an 'Oprah The Sequel, The Funeral' coming soon..

Roussette · 11/04/2021 12:42

Nothing wrong with that as long as he sticks out like a sore thumb?!

Marmaladeagain · 11/04/2021 12:48

Well I guess that's the difference between resigning from a job and removing oneself to another country as opposed to being accused of a crime and investigated etc. Different protocols would apply in any job. Someone resigned, they're obviously GONE.

I would like to think Andrew won't be wearing military uniform and is stripped of his honorary roles, however as he is part of an on-going investigation there may be things we are not a party to and it will come in time.

However, I'll wait and see next week - I'm not sure it's been announced anywhere that Andrew is in military uniform next week so getting a little ahead of oneself to be upset about something that hasn't happened yet.

Job: resign - gone. Job: investigations on-going - decision to resign and investigate etc. public investigation in due course (we all hope).

It is such a stupid comparison. Harry resigned from being a working royal Andrew didn't, he's hand was forced as the appropriate action - we'd all like him to be stripped of other honorary roles in due course, but that's the Queen's call currently. I expect Charles wouldn't be dithering over removing any honorary military roles from Andrew. (The right to wear those uniforms at public events, not because he served...).

Wearing medals - H can do that. People don't go around wearing uniforms for the sake of it - the RF are representing those roles and reflect the Queen's status as head of state.

Grown man Harry does seem to engender some very maternal views - bit like how the Queen must see Andrew. Weird though when not related but can't see what a self-centred dope he is.

HypocriteHunter · 11/04/2021 12:51

I’ll be wearing my medals to pay my respects.

Though not in uniform as I no longer serve and as I’m not a representative of Her Majesty.

Alsohuman · 11/04/2021 12:52

@Roussette

Because he voluntarily surrendered that right. He’s not a working royal any more. It’s like leaving a job and expecting to keep your company car and healthcare insurance

Neither is Andrew

And your point is? Has Andrew been seen in uniform in the last couple of years?
Alsohuman · 11/04/2021 12:53

@Roussette

8It would surely be a fitting tribute to Prince Philip though of course H will sulk that he will stick out like a sore thumb in a suit*

Nice Hmm
You're talking about a man who did active service in Afghanistan.

My bloke did active service in the Falklands, he’s retired ergo not entitled to wear uniform. Do you think that’s unfair?
Arbadacarba · 11/04/2021 12:54

Harry has just lost his granddad - it's not the time and place to debate his withdrawal from the RF.

Roussette · 11/04/2021 12:55

I could call Andrew something far worse than 'a self centred dope'. And I hope he is stripped of his military patronages if he has to answer for what has gone on in the past. And there is plenty. Not just Epstein.
The summer will be very telling.
Ghislaine goes to court. Let's see if she goes for a plea bargain... that will open up a can of worms if so.

Marmaladeagain · 11/04/2021 12:57

Harry was told his GF was not going to recover and near the end. In fact, anyone with eyes in their head knew and could see that.

Harry still went ahead with a shit show over that family that have been grieving for the last month or so knowing the end is near.

Poor Harry again.

Roussette · 11/04/2021 12:58

Alsohuman
I'm talking about the Royal Family who have special privileges as to uniforms.
I have no idea on your bloke and whether that is right or not, because I am commenting on the members of the RF. Personally, I think he (your guy) should be able to if I am comparing the likes of Edward who ponces about in uniform having never done a day's active service.
Well done your guy for his service in the Falklands.

Alsohuman · 11/04/2021 13:04

Well done your guy for his service in the Falklands

Thank you. Incidentally his verdict on Edward is that he’s got “balls of steel” for recognising that he wasn’t made of the right stuff for the Marines and didn’t merit a place there. He reckons it took huge courage to step away.

SueSaid · 11/04/2021 13:05

'Harry was told his GF was not going to recover and near the end. In fact, anyone with eyes in their head knew and could see that. Harry still went ahead with a shit show over that family that have been grieving for the last month or so knowing the end is near.'

I know. How to add to the stress and grief for his family. The poor Queen losing her dh, poor Prince Charles losing his df. Wonder if H ever thinks of anyone else's mental health rather than just the Sussexes.

Alsohuman · 11/04/2021 13:07

Oh and the Princess Royal has never done a day’s active service and she ponces about in uniform as well. Is she wrong too?

Roussette · 11/04/2021 13:08

Alsohuman
Yes, I actually agree because I don't think it went down very well within the family. It was just not him, was it... but the opportunities for direct members of the RF are so meagre and they all have a service record of some sort or another, but certainly not right for Edward.
I imagine he is quite a gentle soul. No idea of course, just my perception.

Marmaladeagain · 11/04/2021 13:11

no - probably phrased it badly - that's Harry..... the self-centred dope!

There are different protocols in any job for different reasons for leaving that job..... Everyone hopes Andrew is dealt with, you have no higher standards than anyone else on that. I know by keep mentioning it somehow people seem to think it excuses any other event in the RF.

However, it doesn't change the fact that RESIGNING to work on various video platforms/Netflix etc etc and trade off RF name is a clear termination of the contract of being a working royal which entails seeing yourself as part of a large army like institution and work within the confines of what is permitted as a working royal.

If you are still unable to see a difference - then spell it out : you go into work tomorrow and colleague has resigned. They're gone - they did cause a scene though as they thought the company car and job title was theirs to keep. Then tomorrow at work - s omeone has a criminal accusation made and are under investigation, but says they're innocent (no-one believes them) and doesn't want to leave. The company need to act differently - person resigns and public investigation takes place. Different protocols are in place for different events. Gone is gone and Harry is definitely gone.

Harry's the dope and his supporters are indulging him with all sorts of maternal clucking despite Harry the known racist saying his family are racist (and to add further vinegar - whilst GF is dying).

Queen is obviously struggling with her own son Andrew but we ALL hope and want Andrew dealt with. I have no idea why more than one idea at a time is so difficult for some to comprehend.

HypocriteHunter · 11/04/2021 13:13

I agree too. Not everyone is cut out for the forces. And certainly not everyone is cut out for the Marines. And even if they are physically able, if their heart and head isn’t in it, they would be a danger for themselves and their colleagues.

I too commend him for stepping back. It did take courage to do so.

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