Meg and Harry supporting race and mental health charities in UK

[Sprining]

Brilliant to hear this. They have approached three charities in UK including Mind and a charity to increase diversity in the media and press.

Great, doing good based on their experiences.

What ‘room’ is Mumsnet exactly?

In other words, not playing to some people’s prejudices, who cannot accept differences of opinion 🙄

That’s the toddler room in my house 😊

being offensive to you? that really is tone deaf. I expect another flounce off as another thread not going how you would like to steer it.

Critical thinking - don't know if M has based the average IQ in UK on Harry? He had some goodwill, but he used it up and spat it out by blaming royal protocols on racism.

He doesn't have a future in the UK. There was a potential bit of leeway before that interview where the a known racist accuses others in a scattergun approach of racism within his family towards his wife and son. He burned the bridge. I expect there's nothing but removal of their titles heading their way.

Remember, the royal family stay with the UK population's consent.

Harry was on a road to moving sideways in the royals before being demoted. It happens every generation. He knows that.

Saying his family are demoting him due to mixed race wife is actually unforgiveable. I am all for people being given lots of chances to learn and change and improve. There is a line though, some things can't be forgiven.

I shouldn't worry @Sprining
To have a different opinion to some folk means you are 'tone deaf', or work at PR for M&H (laughable) or similar such personal digs. Along with a lot of questioning as to why you are posting. Errrmmm... it's a forum. People post.
Always the same.

You are entitled to your opinion of course...

Not sure how it is relevant to their work on supporting charities related to mental health and diversity in the media

I’d love to know more about the one they are supporting regarding media diversity. Especially with social media and the numerous channels for news

@Roussette, I know 😃

@Sprining That's the point though isn't it? What are they proposing to actually contribute to these charities? What is 'their work on supporting charities'?
And US charitable foundations? Read up on how they are administered and regulated.

You're absolutely free to post on whatever you like, but hailing this announcement seems a bit premature, to say the least.

Anyway perhaps you could pitch to M some of the really good ideas I've suggested on how to be taken seriously - the other stuff to keep inserting herself into UK mental health IS tone deaf.

I think it is great that they are supporting charities based on things that have impacted them (I think it’s good to channel negative experiences into positive actions)

Agree, it would be good to get details on the type of support, financial and other. And I was hoping that someone in MN would be involved in these charities and could tell more about these efforts and the potential impact.

You know, a normal discussion

Mm participating in UK mental health care is not tone deaf, IMO

If there is even one person who opens up about their mental health because if her, that’s a positive thing. It takes a lot of courage to talk about it.

It is a topic very dear to me and I for one am really glad she talked about the impact of being in a new country, the feeing of isolation, pregnancy and mental health.

No it's the refusal to engage in answering pertinent questions as to why I should be called racist by the poster but they refuse to answer about whether Harry is a racist. That's the reason they're tone deaf.

Happy to call people racists, not happy to respond to the fact they have no response to the fact Harry led M a merry dance that he had an important role ahead of him in the RF going forward.

He is always the route to be downgraded and told M it's because she's mixed race.

Not ever addressing those issues is why they're tone deaf and call me racist for pointing out none of what they say matches their actions. They do not act kind.

That’s great if they can offer something useful. What will they be offering? I’m not sure why they need to publicise their involvement either. Why can’t they do ANYTHING quietly and under the radar?

Why should they do it quietly? Most foundations publicly announce the organisations they are supporting.

It benefits the charity and increases transparency on where the foundation money is being spent.

It is a good thing, no?

Why would insinuating that Sprining works in PR for H&M be a “personal dig?!” Are you really that easily offended by something Roussette?

Yes. In this instance, yes. It's what I've been called for a very long time. Oh and a paid shill. That's a good one too.

Meghan could single handedly cure cancer and bring about world peace and Mumsnet would still screech themselves sick that she's just an uppity attention whore.

Donating money and raising awareness of smaller charities is clearly a good thing. Harry and Meghan have done far more to support smaller charities than William and Kate, who's not visited some of her patronages even once since she became patron!

Saying his family are demoting him due to mixed race wife is actually unforgiveable.
No, bullying him out due to marrying a biracial woman is actually unforgivable.

And please stop trotting out the lie that they left because they wanted privacy or a life outside the spotlight. Meghan's never said she wants or left to get privacy, ever.

I ignore the personal attacks @Roussette. water off a ducks back 😊

It’s about people on a forum recognising that some posters on here seem to have a strong bias towards H&M and also such strong prejudicial views of the RF.

There's about four posters who consistently defend Meghan from racial abuse and weird hate, and a much larger number of posters who appear to spent every waking second frothing with hatred and thinking up new ways to spread that hatred, including starting dozens and dozens of hate threads; sockpuppeting and posting under half a dozen usernames in one thread to make it look like more people hate Meghan; registering new accounts to continue to spread Meghan hate after being banned; harassing, stalking and doxxing anyone who defends Meghan even a tiny bit; constantly spreading lies; using dozens of well-known troll tactics; and basically acting like it's their job to smear and demonize Meghan simply for existing.

Anyone with eyes can see there's only one side who are acting underhand and have an agenda.

Remind me which 'side' set up two separate forums to share views about Meghan considered too extremist for Mumsnet, and discuss the best tactics to bully posters on the opposite side off Mumsnet and try to get them deleted and banned?

@rosetylersbiggun

Meghan could single handedly cure cancer and bring about world peace and Mumsnet would still screech themselves sick that she's just an uppity attention whore.

Donating money and raising awareness of smaller charities is clearly a good thing. Harry and Meghan have done far more to support smaller charities than William and Kate, who's not visited some of her patronages even once since she became patron!

Saying his family are demoting him due to mixed race wife is actually unforgiveable.
No, bullying him out due to marrying a biracial woman is actually unforgivable.

And please stop trotting out the lie that they left because they wanted privacy or a life outside the spotlight. Meghan's never said she wants or left to get privacy, ever.

In.deed.

And this thread is to discuss there charities, like the diversity in press initiative. And of course anything related to supporting mental health

Oh and don't think we haven't noticed that the second someone starts a thread that's positive towards Meghan, or starts fighting back against hater lies, the usual suspects immediately start very overt rule breaking (such as troll hunting) in a transparent attempt to get the thread deleted.

Threads that are hostile towards Meghan never experience the same derailment.

Why are you so obsessed with hating her, that you feel the need to torpedo and censor any positive opinion?

charity begins at home

@Roussette

I shouldn't worry *@Sprining* To have a different opinion to some folk means you are 'tone deaf', or work at PR for M&H (laughable) or similar such personal digs. Along with a lot of questioning as to why you are posting. Errrmmm... it's a forum. People post. Always the same.

and most often by someone who has NC.

No it’s about Harry - who has been very shady with the truth about his future role and how he has to steps aside for the next generation. They are not important in the royal family anymore . It isn’t about Meghan she could do some great work in US. She has no understanding of U.K. life or politics or monarchy. Harry hasn’t helped her in anyway and is making a fool of both of them.

If M thinks she will do well here she is mistaken - no-one will want to hear what they think about anything. Leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Not everyone feels like you Marmalade as is illustrated by the many threads with different posters' points of view..
So I don't think saying 'no-one wants to hear what they think about anything' is necessarily true.

Just sayin'