Meg and Harry supporting race and mental health charities in UK

[Sprining]

Brilliant to hear this. They have approached three charities in UK including Mind and a charity to increase diversity in the media and press.

Great, doing good based on their experiences.

I attended a really interesting talk about the differences in philanthropy in the US and the UK.

The US is much more about a charity sitting round the table with donors as equal partners, and the UK charities tend more towards give us your money we know best (generalising...).

Also in the US the focus of philanthropy is more on empowering communities and the voice of communities, as historically there never really has been a welfare state.

Brilliant, I'll rest easy in my bed tonight.

They need to focus on their own mental health issues and get themselves well.

@EdithWeston

I'm interested to know what 'offering support' actually entails, and which of the charities have accepted to offer

Give their name to I guess. They won’t be sending a cheque or running a marathon. Their PR team will have propose this (oh cynical old me).

They aren't really relevant to UK anymore though are they? Trying to shoehorn themselves into UK life by announcing it, just give the money privately.

I said Pharisee in the temple comes to mind with both them and their MN fans - look they're actually acting like one literally today!

Being seen to do the right thing, throw vague accusations of racism at H's family but won't name them or deal with it. Just vague.

Harry is proven to have racist behaviour on repeated occasions. What about others mental health with Harry's vague attempts to create division.

Really think they'll be surprised that everyone's cottoned on to H's poor treatment of M and lack of any preparation of how royal life would work.

She joined an army with rules and protocols not a fairy tale. Harry misled her and didn't correct any of her assumptions about his dwindling role in the royals going forward.

They need to look a lot closer to home and see Harry is core and central to all the misunderstandings M has about how she could roll her sleeves up and get stuck in.

If you imagine it like the army (which is what it's like really) then imagine a new young officer saying to the senior officer any help you need, let me know. They'd be - yes, you can help by following orders. The Queen is head of the forces - do the US even understand that - she's not joined a fairy tale it's a regimented role of rules and protocols and limited options.

Harry has behaved atrociously to accuse his family of treating them differently due to M mixed race heritage.

Yes donate privately please Harry. I think he will be surprised at the distaste he has left in the mouths of the UK as everyone starts to unravel from the shock and see he has misled M about his importance in royal life and asking to be treated differently. Currently he is being treated exactly how protocol would allow the grandson of a monarch to be treated.

@customwatkins

Those two don't do anything that doesn't benefit themselves.

Unlike other's in the Royal family I suppose.

@MorePotatoSalad

I attended a really interesting talk about the differences in philanthropy in the US and the UK.

The US is much more about a charity sitting round the table with donors as equal partners, and the UK charities tend more towards give us your money we know best (generalising...).

Also in the US the focus of philanthropy is more on empowering communities and the voice of communities, as historically there never really has been a welfare state.

Really interesting

"Also in the US the focus of philanthropy is more on empowering communities and the voice of communities, as historically there never really has been a welfare state."

Yes shocking. Did anyone see "The Americas" with Simon Reeve over last few Sundays? The drug problem was terrible to see in Vancouver, it is difficult to imagine nowhere to fall back on and how those people were living. I thought Canada was more progressive and would had a welfare state?

Simon Reeve has been to lots of places but was truly shocked at what was deemed acceptable to be swept under the carpet each morning and ignore. Likewise the drug problems in US is s big problem.

Interestingly as he got to US the episode focused on the US federal system - black communities are campaigning about how the police will arrest for minor traffic offences and is the gateway into criminal system as they can't pay the fines.

They all seemed clear prisons are a big money making circus in US and the young black communities are fodder to continue to provide jobs. No one looking to solve this crazy system.

M would have my respect if she focused a bit more on the inequalities in her own country around the prison service.

Dropping "racist" bombs on the in-law does not show any respect for mental health, so she'd do well to stay away from this fantasy that she cares about others mental health. It doesn't wash with anyone who applies critical thinking.

This announcement for UK charities is distasteful really - they need to bog off out of it and solve problems in their new back yard. We'll cope just fine without their version of "help".

has a welfare state not "would"

From my perspective, people need help everywhere.

I’m not particularly nationalistic. If their philanthropy spans UK and USA, that’s fine.

@willibald

Really hope you and the other poster are being paid by H&M for the PR work you do for them on here .

Lots of people support charities. Big deal.

does seem on mn if you don't want to rip H &M apart you get this kind of shit.

I'll be even more thrilled when they hand over the money for that elephant charity that still hasn't seen the light of day. To be honest people who don't know how to phone a Dr for their own mental health and don't live lives that resemble even remotely, the lives of people they claim to want to help, have absolutely zero business setting up charities for those that need mental health care.
Just get jobs and earn your own money H&M. Actually get some life experience in those things you like to lecture us about.
Then I might take you seriously.
All sounds very Sunshine Sachs to me.

Also 'charities' are always a great money spinner. In the UK I think it's only around 13% of the overall money raised that needs to go to the actual cause. The rest can be legitimately spent on 'admin'...

Wow. Does anyone know how much mind spends on overheads?

Surely not 87% of all income. Still I'm sure these two could blow through that.

Unlike other's in the Royal family I suppose.

And yet they aren't the ones lecturing others on everything else tin spite of absolutely no life experience. Someone who is a multimillionaire who selects their meals from a menu is not someone who should be lecturing the planet on mental health issues after a year of global pandemic, death, job loss, financial destitution and fear, while living in their bought-and-paid for 16 bathroom mansion.

H&m’s Foundation is US based I think. They are donating to uk charities, as far as I understand.

That's great. The world is saved then

Good PR move for them since the interview hasn't been well received everywhere. They could choose to donate privately however decided to announce it on their website.
Maybe they should sort of their own mental health and stay out of the spotlight, as they want the private life

Tbf, I think Foundations tend to be quite transparent where they put money and state that openly. So no one can say later that it was not clear

Yes people need help everywhere. But in M's own country where she and Harry live there are black communities that are well aware the penal system is to get them on a minor traffic offence and become criminalised. The white people know it too. Everyone knows it so I don't doubt M doesn't. Not obviously full of glamour though is it.

It is a big issue for black communities in US and there is no rehabilitation to speak of. Gradually some projects under way.

Meghan clearly has no ability to research her role or understand its limitations on joining UK royal family or to seek out help from her husband. He tells her that he is being demoted gradually due to her mixed race and she falls for it. Not sure what skills they really bring to anything really. Sound like a couple of dimbos.

I think she should get involved in something great like the US reform of penal system, it might step on a few political toes so she might not like that as might affect the creation of Foundations (money spinners) they have dreams of.

I guess therefore it's not something she'd go near - perhaps you could pitch it to her? That would be something to respect her for.

It's not going to to work her trying to look like they "care" about the UK.

Need to get their sleeves rolled up locally and look at the police and penal system in US - much better use of their time and they might learn something about life. That's when rolling your sleeves is required and get stuck in, but it isn't how the Royal family works - it's protocols and rules and hierarchy and limitations.

@Sprining

Tbf, I think Foundations tend to be quite transparent where they put money and state that openly. So no one can say later that it was not clear

Here is the overview of Mind's accounts register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/219830/charity-overview

Could you find me the accounts for Harry and Meghan's "Foundation"
as US non profits are notoriously opaque

You might need to research a little more about US Foundations if you think that! Bit worrying if you are that uninformed about Clintons et al etc..... perhaps look into it?