Meg and Harry supporting race and mental health charities in UK

[Sprining]

Brilliant to hear this. They have approached three charities in UK including Mind and a charity to increase diversity in the media and press.

Great, doing good based on their experiences.

@Sprining

Why should they do it quietly? Most foundations publicly announce the organisations they are supporting.

It benefits the charity and increases transparency on where the foundation money is being spent.

It is a good thing, no?

Because it’s all about making money, publicity and undermining the RF.

I for one, look forward to seeing which of the charities accept the offer of support and how that support manifests.

@Sprining

Maybe funding to assess and monitor which kind of initiatives have most impact on audience would be useful.

That’s a great idea.

I have never read so much nonsense - you mean measure ROI on CHARITIES? Please, stop now.

This sounds like the kind of garbage H&M would dream up as a Good Thing. Like Oprah. There's a really really good reason that the UK has regulation to cover the charity sector and that the media is regulated. To stop this kind of bollocks and the kind of bollocks that H&M engaged in, such as broadcasting headlines that were in fact not headlines and using them to make inflammatory claims and slurs.

Measuring ROI of charities is a good thing to do. Lots of organisations, eg, world bank do rigorous third party ROI evaluation of their programs.

It is important to measure the impact of any initiative and return on investment, albeit social or monetary.

If they stuck with one or two charities, that would be fine. But they appear to be always adopting new ones.

Can a supporter please explain Harry’s dumping of a memorial for Royal Marines in order to attend the Lion King premiere? To me actions speak louder than words.

So is the suggestion Archewell foundation pays for the ROI for those charities approached?

RoI review work I mean.

All UK Charities do impact assessment as part of their annual reports and accounts
US "Foundations" do not appear to have any transparency rules at all

I should like to announce to the world Mumsnet that in the past month I have donated to the RNLI, Marie Curie, the local cat rescue and the local hospice.

I wonder whether I'll make The Guardian 🤔

I think impact assessment should be carried out by independent third parties, ideally not linked to the donor or charity. Maybe research organisations or universities?

I thought they were private individuals now.
If they want to do any charity work theres plenty to do in the US. We dont need them.

Some of us are civil and open mined 😊

There is a lot of a Brexiteer type mentality and divisions, Us vs. Them. Who do they think they are?

It is really sad that there is so much suspicion and hate that people cannot recognise each other’s humanity And appreciate the positive that others do

I am British, and I am happy for all the support in the Uk from H&M and anyone else who makes the effort, irrespective of where they live.

I think there's a great opportunity to replicate the Princes Trust model in the US.

Better to focus on one area and do it well, rather than spread there efforts thinly over two continents. I'm not quite sure why M&H feel the need to support UK anything as they've made it quite clear the UK is not for them.

The Princes Trust will be a true legacy for Charles. The opportunities and life chances it's created is remarkable and something I feel would resonate with the US. The life chances of young black people in the US are quite appalling.
It could also create an olive branch for H as he could call up is Pa and ask for advice on how to start it up.

I'm an immigrant to the UK.

If H&M want to be private citizens, go ahead
but his carbon footprint hypocrisy cannot be greenwashed away.

So the same people that have complained everything Kate or the Royal family have done in the last week or two is a PR stunt. Are know all how wonderful Harry and Meghan are for doing this 😂😂😂😂😂

I agree that they can get advice from PC.

I can understand though that H&M want to invest in charities that reflect the causes dear to them, perhaps based on their own life experiences.

Just because Meghan is mixed race doesn’t mean she has automatic experience if expertise in issues facing an inner city Black male for example. She may have no exposure or interest in the penal system. I don’t know, I’m just giving these as examples.

They may be interest in mental health, healthy living, media etc.

@Sprining - you seem to be under the impression that M&H are the kindest, most generous, faultless people on this planet. Do you not think they ever strike a bum note?

I can imagine the rf is at large snobbish and to say the least odd and have been guilty of much, particularly enabling certain characters to behave in all sorts of abhorrent behaviours.

I think any even-handed person would see that M&H are often hypocritical and certainly - as in the case of charity announcements - not publicity shy.

I dont think Charles had too much experience in life as an inner city disadvantaged black male either! Lol.

😃 I was responding to the pp who mentioned that they could support ‘black’ issues in US. She may not have experienced things like police brutality etc. I don’t know, I’m just providing a hypothetical example.

She may identify other things as dear to her and healthy living is something that both.she and PC have in common. Harry may be interest in Veterans mental health issues

Harry has already spent years working with veteran charities that deal with such things. He also with William set up their own mental health charity. That is why people call bull on the whole not getting Meghan help if she needed it thing. Harry knows plenty of people that work in this field.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

I think it is nasty to call ‘bull’ on someone’s mental health issues. I think it takes a lot of courage to share these.

I worry that someone else might be scared to bring up their mental health struggles, because of views like yours (and Piers Morgan)

Many mental health professionals often don’t disclose or seek help for their own mental health struggles, despite being experts in the field and helping others.

But hey ho, let’s judge and call ‘bull’ on others...or perhaps only H&M are worthy of your scorn

[quote Sprining]@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

I think it is nasty to call ‘bull’ on someone’s mental health issues. I think it takes a lot of courage to share these.

I worry that someone else might be scared to bring up their mental health struggles, because of views like yours (and Piers Morgan)

Many mental health professionals often don’t disclose or seek help for their own mental health struggles, despite being experts in the field and helping others.

But hey ho, let’s judge and call ‘bull’ on others...or perhaps only H&M are worthy of your scorn [/quote]
I said that is why people call bull on Harry not getting help

Does what you do pay well?😂