The Duchess of Cambridge attends the Sarah Everard vigil

[JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]

My respect for the Duchess has just shot up. For a Royal, this is pretty bold and brave.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sarah-everard-vigil-kate-middleton-london-b1816862.html

Not forgetting other women - if you attended the vigil tonight, thank you for sticking up for women's rights. Let's hope this is an opportunity for the Met Police to review and change how they treat both offending officers and female victims

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@Thewithesarehere did you?!?!

You think the below is the answer to "what resources do the police need to suspend an officer for indecently exposing himself to women", makes sense?:

For example, what processes do two police officers need to do to ensure they can run a number plate on their record.
I have seen enough process failing due to such small things that a unicorn poo would be a complete overkill[/quote]
I posted in direct response to your post that all that they had to do was to run a number plate and identify the owner. That is not a lot and they didn’t. So what went amiss? Did they have access? Did they have to run it via a central system via someone else? Where did that process break?
Why do they not have access to the most basic systems and databases? Did they have enough resources to make it available to all within the force?
I know someone who is an accident in making because there are no resources to replace him or give him a rest.
I aso know first hand some people in an old Job who stopped using some of these process simply because the police had no resources to protect them.
It is not usually a conspiracy etc. It’s most incompetence and lack of funding.

My mum has early onset Dementia and I absolutely LOVE her version of events. This is her version....
Kate meets William and wants to be Queen
Kate gets a huge boner for Harry
William is gay
Harry meets Meghan and falls in love hard
Kate is devastated
Kate destroys Harry and Meghan via William
Kate kills William and then becomes Queen (then the plot starts losing some credibility....)

Apparently that's the answer to the question "What resources are needed to suspend a police officer who indecently exposed himself to women"

Yeah I don't get it either. Maybe it's like a cryptic crossword clue

Sorry that last post was to @NiceGerbil

@Thewithesarehere

It seems ironic that you think you are a republican but also seem to think the royal family are a class apart. They're just people

I don’t think that they are a class apart. I think they are part of a system that is far too corrupt to be allowed to exist now and that is actively promoting things that no one should be allowed to do in this day and age.

Well, I agree with that. I just don't think KM went to Clapham as part of some nefarious plot

It's a distraction from the thread but I'm assuming from the posts that the indecent exposure report had a numberplate?

Sorry if that's not the case.

The reason the police don't investigate 'minor' sex offences is not to do with procedures etc. We all know that don't we?

@Thewithesarehere but this case wasn't about running a number plate. They knew before the murder that he'd exposed himself and did nothing about it. That's a culture problem, not a funding or resource problem, and redeploying more people into the Met from the RF security team would t magically change the deep rooted culture of misogyny that's in the force

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow
It’s never a nefarious plot, usually a benign PR campaign after campaign. It really is that simple. All you need is to judge your audience and the mood.

Thewithesarehere I’ve been on the republic mailing lists for ten years +

I want the monarchy abolished. I don’t get your points here... Kate represents so awful an institution (does she not want to change it, do you know that?) that she cannot support good causes or effect meaningful change? None of them can or ever could? Seriously... the institution is stupid but I don’t doubt some of them are alright as people. She can support what causes she wants, which already happen to be supportive of women and children. Again, I don’t like the monarchy but some of the individuals do alright work now

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@viques my thread was about the great wave of support women are showing to Sarah and how great it is when high profile women like KM join in. I wasn't starting a "ooh is this right or wrong" debate [/quote]
So your thread title was just click bait was it?

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@Thewithesarehere but this case wasn't about running a number plate. They knew before the murder that he'd exposed himself and did nothing about it. That's a culture problem, not a funding or resource problem, and redeploying more people into the Met from the RF security team would t magically change the deep rooted culture of misogyny that's in the force[/quote]
I really wish you read the news BEFORE starting a thread!
The officers were given a number place and cctv.

So.... you're critical of KM but defensive about the met police. Interesting

@viques I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

It was a thread title. Stop over analysing

TomBradysLeftKneecap if it ended in Meghan and Kate running things I’d probably turn monarchist!

If it's a pr stunt then it's a very surprising one.
Senior royals are supposed to steer clear of anything political.

The police had said women should stay away. So she went against that. Also the fact that it looks like a police officer committed the murder.

A very unusual move for a senior royal.

My thoughts too. Was pleasantly surprised to see this thread.

Kind of wish Meghan was in the country and could have gone along with her, maybe the queen too. Royal Women United.

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@viques I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

It was a thread title. Stop over analysing [/quote]
You know how a great PR or marketing campaign is born? By making sure people don’t overanalyse it.

That was to @thewithsarehere btw. I suggest you get your priorities sorted out. Woman in public eye paying respects to murdered woman BAD, police force failing to protect murdered woman and then assaulting mourners..not their fault! They probably love their old mum so they are definitely not violent misogynists

I really wish you read the news BEFORE starting a thread!
The officers were given a number place and cctv.

I know that - and you think it doesn't come up straight away with the name and address? Why at that point didn't they think "oh that's our colleague. Best suspend him?"

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@viques I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.

It was a thread title. Stop over analysing [/quote]
I know what it means, not sure you do though.

You don’t have to police a thread you start btw, usually it’s better to just let it roll.

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow

So.... you're critical of KM but defensive about the met police. Interesting

Are you comparing the brave men and women of Met police with KM? Ffs, there must be limit to fan girling? I just told you of someone who is an accident in making the way he is working for the last year. That one person in Met is way above KM alone. Met has made horrible mistakes and that should be analysed and eliminated. However, there is absolutely no comparison between what police does for us and what KM does.

Thewithesarehere You’d be AMAZING pr because you’re pushing me to supporting monarchy and Kate in particular. Because she can’t do anything without you saying it’s pr and wrong. I assume you work in pr and think it very powerful, or else you just really hate Kate (seems like both). Am always bemused by how the women in the royals get treated like crap by the public, and not the men. Again... not a royalist but really great job at pushing me to supporting them I’ll email republic now to say I’m a fully fledged monarchist now.

You say the monarchy is corrupt but you’re seemingly only chiding Kate about this... your misogyny is showing.

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

I really wish you read the news BEFORE starting a thread!The officers were given a number place and cctv.

I know that - and you think it doesn't come up straight away with the name and address? Why at that point didn't they think "oh that's our colleague. Best suspend him?"

This is why I am asking where the process broke. that number plate should have set processes in motion automatically.

Kate does have security but it's not unusual to see her at her local high street and when she lived in Chelsea she was regularly seen down the Kings Road popping into Waitrose. It doesn't surprise me she went, highly likely she has friends that live in Clapham.

Even if it was a PR stunt it bought attention to the issue that women are still dying needlessly. Wasn't the average 3 women a week last year were murdered? Why is that still happening here in the UK? How many are assaulted each week or just escape death?

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow don't forget - Prince in position of power abuses trafficked girl? It is the responsibility of a random child who will grow up to one day marry his nephew and she should NEVER dare show support to women.

Actually thinking about it I do think the Andrew thing might be relevant - she can't say out loud "he's a nonce and we have disowned the creep", she has quietly gone down to a memorial to show her respect and also her fury at violence against women. She has shown she's an ally in the only way she possible can.

@Backstreetsbackalrightdadada

Thewithesarehere You’d be AMAZING pr because you’re pushing me to supporting monarchy and Kate in particular. Because she can’t do anything without you saying it’s pr and wrong. I assume you work in pr and think it very powerful, or else you just really hate Kate (seems like both). Am always bemused by how the women in the royals get treated like crap by the public, and not the men. Again... not a royalist but really great job at pushing me to supporting them I’ll email republic now to say I’m a fully fledged monarchist now.

You say the monarchy is corrupt but you’re seemingly only chiding Kate about this... your misogyny is showing.

I have given away my work, haven’t I? I think there is an organised PR campaign here on this forum. Actually more than one campaigns have taken place here but one is run by the RF’s machine. Don’t cry misogyny. I have said upthread that I would have been upset at anyone from RF turning up.