Students thrown off course for throwing a party.

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Basically, a load of students held a party of around 16/17 people. They got reported, they all got a £400 fine, apart from the host who got a £10,000 fine.

Then their Uni kicked them all off their courses for bringing the Uni into disrepute.

I think this is probably a fair and reasonable punishment, but DP thinks the Uni have gone too far and they're being unfair.

I'm curious to hear others' thoughts on the matter! Fair or unreasonable?

@Fieldsoftripe9 if it was in the rules of her record company or ad deals then yes that would be the case, I can imagine there are certain parts of her career than won't continue because of it as some companies won't have her advertising their services/products. There are lots of instances where celebs or sports people have had their advertsiting deals cancelled due to them breaking the law, whilst maybe not losing their whole career they certainly are affected.

These students haven't had their careers cancelled, they have broken the uni rules that were repeatedly discussed with them so have been asked to leave that uni/course, after repeated offences the uni carried out what was in the rules.

@Fieldsoftripe9

Does that mean Rita Ora is no longer allowed to continue with her career then and is "cancelled"? Because she paid a fine with no other consequence.

Of course not! One rule for them ...

What does Rita Ora do?

@Nightbear

What does Rita Ora do?

Perform songs, release singles, produce and appear on the telly?

[quote PugInTheHouse]@Fieldsoftripe9 if it was in the rules of her record company or ad deals then yes that would be the case, I can imagine there are certain parts of her career than won't continue because of it as some companies won't have her advertising their services/products. There are lots of instances where celebs or sports people have had their advertsiting deals cancelled due to them breaking the law, whilst maybe not losing their whole career they certainly are affected.

These students haven't had their careers cancelled, they have broken the uni rules that were repeatedly discussed with them so have been asked to leave that uni/course, after repeated offences the uni carried out what was in the rules.[/quote]
Hardly.

Celebrities in certain contracts are regularly told not to advertise in certain ways, do, then just have to apologise and it's all forgotten.

You can't say that someone kicked out of uni hasn't lost their career.

I am talking about if celebs break the law, there have been cases where their sponsorships deals have been discontinued, these often make up huge amounts of sports peoples earnings. I didn't say anything about not advertising in certain ways, I am talking about illegal activity.

@PugInTheHouse

I am talking about if celebs break the law, there have been cases where their sponsorships deals have been discontinued, these often make up huge amounts of sports peoples earnings. I didn't say anything about not advertising in certain ways, I am talking about illegal activity.

No I know, but the two aren't comparable.

I just think if you are at school/college/work or whatever and the rules specifically state that if you do x,y,z repeatedly this will lead to being expelled/sacked then that's what is likely or at the least probable to happen. Whether that is harsh/fair or not is a different discussion but if you are aware of the consequences in advance I just don't see an arguement there.

www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/university-of-portsmouth-suspends-16-students-after-repeated-covid-lockdown-flouting-parties-3149126

No one has as yet been permanently expelled. 16 students have been suspended, which is different. 13 of them are undergoing further investigation, and could be expelled; but that could quite likely be just a big final threat, and no one may be expelled in the end.

ddl1 - I think that sounds fair, hopefully the individual cases will be looked at, you would imagine if there is a lot of remorse amongst other things it may go no further. I do think if the university did nothing then there would be uproar locally, I think if an AIBU was uni allowed parties during pandemic and did nothing then there would be very different responses on here.

If you live in a city where there is a uni and have seen/heard about so many big breaches it can be pretty upsetting and when numbers rocketed from September onwards the first people the community blames are the students (rightly or wrongly), the unis must feel they are in the position where they must be seen to be dealing with it.

My cousin lost his driving licence due to a number of offences, he job required him to get to various places to carry out his work. The rules state that he would be sacked if he was unable to drive to his jobs, however he happened to have been working on a long term contract with another worker who agreed to drive him, the company allowed him to stay on but he was fully aware that he was going to be sacked if that hadn't been the case.

That seems fair IMO but doesn't mean it would have been unfair if he had lost his job

Any updates on this case ?

There's two separate things here. First holding/attending a party for which they were fined, I assume by the local magistrates. Then there's the second issue of bringing the university's name into disrepute by getting prosecuted in the magistrates' court. For that (& not for the party) they were chucked out.

All seems perfectly fair and reasonable to me.