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Students thrown off course for throwing a party.

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Cotbedy · 07/03/2021 11:37

Basically, a load of students held a party of around 16/17 people. They got reported, they all got a £400 fine, apart from the host who got a £10,000 fine.

Then their Uni kicked them all off their courses for bringing the Uni into disrepute.

I think this is probably a fair and reasonable punishment, but DP thinks the Uni have gone too far and they're being unfair.

I'm curious to hear others' thoughts on the matter! Fair or unreasonable?

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sashh · 07/03/2021 11:58

No way do I agree with this if true. To have your entire life possibly irreparably damaged due to not being able to complete your education for having small party?!

It was for bringing the uni into disrepute, when you go to uni you agree to follow their rules and face the consequences if you don't.

A friend was 'sent down' from Oxford for something similar, he was allowed to return after a year.

LindaEllen · 07/03/2021 11:58

Good.
I'm fed up of certain people thinking that these rules we're all living with at the moment don't apply to them.

And to @LaceyBetty they will be able to get on another course elsewhere, but of course the university cannot allow them to continue with them.

Medievalist · 07/03/2021 11:59

Depends what university policy is about breaking the law generally, and what sort of crime a student would normally have to commit to get expelled.

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LBXXX · 07/03/2021 12:06

I hate Covid law enforcement however throwing a party was just stupid

I think a more suitable punishment would be the person who threw the party gets kicked off the course and the rest have had their £400 fine which is punishment enough

16-17 people isn’t a massive party and odds are they’re seeing each other at uni anyway but the person throwing the party knew the consequences

Branleuse · 07/03/2021 12:06

harsh, considering schools are going back tommorow and most of the elderly and vulnerable have been vaccinated

Alfaix · 07/03/2021 12:06

What was the course? On some courses this kind of behaviour would be a deal breaker as you risk fitness to practice - thinking medicine and similar.

Crinkle77 · 07/03/2021 12:13

I'd like to know which uni this is too. I work at a uni where this recently happened but haven't heard about them being kicked off course.

Stirmecrazy · 07/03/2021 12:14

Complete over reaction. They had already been punished with a fine. As previous posters have stated I am not reading about people loosing their jobs over covid breaches. We only need to look at the govt to see plenty of cases such as Dominic Cummings to see they would regard this as a step too far

Hoppinggreen · 07/03/2021 12:15

If it was in Halls fair enough

HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 12:16

If they had been told that that would be the consequence, then absolutely fine. They're not children.

SarahAndQuack · 07/03/2021 12:16

I bet they'd been warned to kingdom come that this would be the consequence. So I think it's fair.

Imagine if they threw a party in halls/university-owned housing and another student caught covid and died - the university could be in very hot water with that student's parents.

HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 12:17

But throwing and attending a party is massively different from just breaking another Covid rule. It is putting other students and lecturers in danger.

HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 12:18

It also puts ancillary staff in danger. Really very, very stupid and irresponsible and selfish. And, as a PP says, I bet they had been warned of what the consequences would be.

Kazzyhoward · 07/03/2021 12:19

Unis regularly kick students off their courses for a multitude of reasons where a student breaks rules.

My son is at Uni (well was until Xmas, he's not gone back yet). They were constantly warned about the covid rules/restrictions. No one was in any doubt that being thrown out was a potential consequence of rule breaking.

One of his flat mates caught covid and, as per rules of the Uni, he had to isolate for 2 weeks. He didn't. He got thrown out.

The vast, vast, majority of students have complied with the rules. It's a minority who have flouted them. The compliant majority will be happy enough that flagrant rule breakers have been thrown out.

Kgrzghtechh · 07/03/2021 12:19

Shame universities don't bother to take such action against all the rapists on their courses.

DenisetheMenace · 07/03/2021 12:22

Imagine they knew what the consequences would be when they decided to go ahead, so reasonable response I think.

As someone else said, they’re not children.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 07/03/2021 12:23

I think it's harsh. They are teenagers and universities have massively screwed over these kids by charging them full fees for courses and a university experience that they haven't received. That's before you get into the cost of halls, which for many have been like prisons.
I think the university has overstepped. It's like firing someone from their job for a traffic offence

Viviennemary · 07/03/2021 12:23

It is harsh. But if they were warned that this would be the penalty well then that's their own fault.

Meredithgrey1 · 07/03/2021 12:24

People treat students so differently to other people. There have been posts on here where someone has seen a pic of their child’s teacher at a party/gathering of some sort and the response has been overwhelmingly to mind your own business. But when it’s students they are awful, should be kicked out of uni and are putting others in danger (not an accusation levelled at the teachers on the other threads).
A relative of mine works for the police and they had issues last year (when rule of 6 was in place) of multiple officers being off self-isolating due to them having large parties together and someone then developing symptoms. They were out in the public every day so just as much of a danger to others as these students. They weren’t even fined.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/03/2021 12:24

This is what happens when you commodify education, the uni's are businesses they need to be able to attract new money students so allowing students to remain on course after such an egregious rule break could risk less money students coming in next year

BiBabbles · 07/03/2021 12:25

Depends what university policy is about breaking the law generally, and what sort of crime a student would normally have to commit to get expelled.

This was my thoughts - much like high sentences for COVID-related law breaking compared to what people generally get for serious crimes.

If it's a uni that generally takes crimes this seriously, then I'd think it's fair enough.

If it's a uni that has previously done little about serious crimes, I'd take a dim view to them suddenly being concerned about bring brought into disrepute and the risks brought on to other students.

Frubecube · 07/03/2021 12:25

@Kgrzghtechh

Shame universities don't bother to take such action against all the rapists on their courses.

And that's the real tea.

TalktotheFoot · 07/03/2021 12:27

Rules is rules. If the university had already warned students of the consequences, then it is their own stupid fault.

HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 12:27

@JustAnotherPoster00

I agree, @JustAnotherPoster00. Labour should never have introduced tuition fees.

MimiDaisy11 · 07/03/2021 12:27

Was it made clear this would be the punishment? If it was I have less sympathy. Students do silly things I think getting thrown off the course is quite extreme considering what I know some students did at my uni and stayed on the course.

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