Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

[HelloThereMeHearties]

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

@Meredithgrey1

He said he asked for help repeatedly. I do t know why the two of them couldn’t have phoned a psychotherapist and made an appointment. Why did they need to tell anyone? After all Harry had therapy for years. At the same time as saying he asked for help, he also says he just couldn’t talk about it within the family. So which is it? It just doesn’t add up.

That’s what I don’t understand about the dynamic that must have existed for this to happen. Harry asks for help for Meghan, is told no, and that’s it? He doesn’t just ignore them and call someone himself anyway?

Maybe Harry didn't want to pay for her therapy? Seems like a bit of a thing with Harry.

It seems like they have felt very hurt and hard done by which I think is incredibly common in families, with sibling rivalry and competition between incoming partners, jostling for position, perceiving that you and your partner/kids are being slighted while your golden child sibling can do no wrong

I think this nails it and is likely the root cause of it. William being all superior and throwing his weight around, Harry acting like a jealous kid and wanting to be treated like an equal, and the wives either supporting or egging them both on.

No interest. Whatsoever.

I also don’t understand why if Meghan needed help with her mental health she needed to go to the hr manager and didn’t just pick up the phone herself, or Harry didn’t, neither of them are exactly known for toeing the line. In every other thing they have pretty much done as they pleased.why not this.

Maybe Harry didn't want to pay for her therapy? Seems like a bit of a thing with Harry.

😂😂😂

Did Megan have to hand over her bank accounts to palace aides (along with her passport and driving license), so couldn't pay for it herself?

Well whatever any of us thinks they've got what they wanted, which was to be back in the media spotlight.

That's the only way they can now make a living. That is really all they have to offer.

It's sad because I think they've received some terrible advice. They had a real opportunity to make themselves extremely wealthy and become media industry giants but in all honesty, I think they've blown it. They've lost all objectivity and gravitas with the media frenzy they've created. They are just click bait now, which is sad because at the heart of it maybe they did have a unique perspective on the world. Maybe they could have offered a positive role model to many. Instead they are now just mired in scandal.

In light of the George Floyd trial now taking place and the disgrace that saw rioters storm the Capitol building waving confederate flags, they could have had a real impact in promoting healing and unity in the world. Instead they have chosen a less dignified route, as Michelle Obama said ' they go low, we go high'. They haven't had the wisdom to do that to really get their message across.

@Meredithgrey1

I thought he told her she should stay at home and she insisted on going because she didn’t want to be alone?

That is what she said, but personally I think he should have stayed home to avoid her being alone, not had her go with him. Obviously he may have suggested this and she insisted, but really, he should have insisted harder. She was suicidal and said she couldn’t be left alone, at no point should the solution to what to do that evening be her putting on a gown, being photographed and having to smile all evening.

It’s not at all easy or even possible probably , to do that when hundreds if people are expecting you to turn up and lots of things are hanging on you appearance. It’s just not done.

Love this thread. All the racists bending over backwards to excuse the racism Megan has endured. 😂

@BeforetheFlood

I wonder does Meghan ever think 'what have I done here?'

I think there may well be a strong element of this from both of them. It seems like they have felt very hurt and hard done by which I think is incredibly common in families, with sibling rivalry and competition between incoming partners, jostling for position, perceiving that you and your partner/kids are being slighted while your golden child sibling can do no wrong (and which must be magnified a million times in the RF.)

But instead of doing what they said they were going to and taking a step back and (wisely) removing themselves from the drama, they decided to escalate it and expected the wider world to share their woe at how unfair and cruel it all was. To the rest of us, dealing with real poverty (not the 'I had to dip into my inheritance' kind) and decimated opportunities in the wake of a global pandemic it just seems self-absorbed. But now they've started this they can only dig in and double down, hinting that it's much worse than they're saying, because otherwise they must know how badly it'll read in the real world.

Yes exactly, they have to at least hint at how awful it was so - worse even than we've said! - so people wouldn't think them even more insufferable than they already do. Theyve burned their bridges now and have to make the other side look as bad as possible to justify to others - and maybe themselves - what seems a fairly nuclear reaction to the circumstances. As another poster said, bring race and mental health into it and you question that and you look like the asshole.

It’s not at all easy or even possible probably , to do that when hundreds if people are expecting you to turn up and lots of things are hanging on you appearance. It’s just not done.

@GoLightlyontheEarth I get it’s not easy, but it would have been done had she had a physical health crisis I’m sure.

Wondermule
Okay, so say a petition against press nastiness somehow reaches 10 million signatures. The newspapers say ‘we promise not to be nasty again’. It would just creep back in. The only permanent option would be legislating against it, which would mean further press restrictions which are never popular. What you suggest is morally correct but unenforceable.

There is no legislation preventing the gutter press printing topless girls.
There is no legislation banning The Sun from being sold in Liverpool.

It only creeps back in if you let it or want it.

The gutter press want to make sexist, misogynistic, racist comments about royal women. And some of the public let them.

It’s not at all easy or even possible probably , to do that when hundreds if people are expecting you to turn up and lots of things are hanging on you appearance. It’s just not done. If she came down with gastric flu they wouldn't shove a nappy on her and send her out. That pregnant they could have got away with not turning up for personal reasons. He needs to be a better husband and father imo

You're concerned that people supporting Megan Markle is going to make it more difficult to white women to accuse/report black men of rape.

Not that a black woman was actually almost driven to suicide, no, but that those speaking up in her support and defence may cause a theoretical impediment to the Word of white women.

Is that the jist?

That's not the jist I got. And that's a really shitty take on a post by someone who isn't a theoretical rape victim but an actual one. Shame on you. You're the one using hypothesis to attack a rape victim.

@PicsInRed No doubt Harry had been having a good belly laugh over many years. punching up in jest no longer allowed is it? (checks notes). I will endeavour to do better, humour according to rules of the perpetually offended and uptight is no laughing matter.

@ScribblingPixie

The wedding was just for the plebs, a spectacle. I'd rather the taxpayer didn't get charged £32m for the pleasure.

That bit cheesed me off too. I'm sure the British public would have been delighted if they'd had a quiet ceremony without Clooney, Oprah et al. And I'm sure they could have chosen to.

I wonder though if they did this would the RF be accused of 'hiding them away' - no doubt then people would like they were somehow ashamed of Harry marrying her, and the race accusations would be flying. I probably would have thought it was a bit off myself.

@whatisthislifesofullofcare

sounds like a jealousy driven effort to turn public opinion against william and kate. you wonder how the rf and the wider community will feel about children being raised by someone with suicidal tendencies.

Children being raised by someone with suicidal tendencies? Aren’t you a charmer. I guess no one who has ever been suicidal should have kids.

@minou123

Wondermule Okay, so say a petition against press nastiness somehow reaches 10 million signatures. The newspapers say ‘we promise not to be nasty again’. It would just creep back in. The only permanent option would be legislating against it, which would mean further press restrictions which are never popular. What you suggest is morally correct but unenforceable.

There is no legislation preventing the gutter press printing topless girls.
There is no legislation banning The Sun from being sold in Liverpool.

It only creeps back in if you let it or want it.

The gutter press want to make sexist, misogynistic, racist comments about royal women. And some of the public let them.

Off you go then, start that campaign and drive out the press being nasty 👊 you go Minou!

@OliviaBensonsEyebrow

Maybe Harry didn't want to pay for her therapy? Seems like a bit of a thing with Harry.

😂😂😂

Did Megan have to hand over her bank accounts to palace aides (along with her passport and driving license), so couldn't pay for it herself?

The thought did occur to me as well 😂😂

Like it doesn’t occur to him that he is a grown man who can make his own arrangements

Wondermule
Off you go then, start that campaign and drive out the press being nasty 👊 you go Minou!

One thing for sure I'll not being doing; is telling women to keep a "dignified silence"

@meredithgrey1
if she was megan from the council tower block she’d have a social worker.

she is estranged from most of her family, from her husbands family and she has said she felt like killing herself and so by extension the child in utero.

I think thats a concern, especially now she is pregnant again.

Like it doesn’t occur to him that he is a grown man who can make his own arrangements well no, according to him he's very reliant on daddy. Just look at the strop from being 'cut off' at such a tender age.

Which begs the question, what self respecting, independent career woman would marry a 30+ year old man who's still sponging off his dad? A post on MN about that would earn a volley of red flags.

It is nauseating how people are turning themselves inside out to make Meghan Markle a villain and deny that this had anything to do with racism - something which has pervaded every single thread about her.

What is wrong with this country?

[quote whatisthislifesofullofcare]@meredithgrey1
if she was megan from the council tower block she’d have a social worker.

she is estranged from most of her family, from her husbands family and she has said she felt like killing herself and so by extension the child in utero.

I think thats a concern, especially now she is pregnant again.[/quote]
And I would assume/hope she is now getting appropriate care. Like many women who are seen by perinatal mental health services in this country.

@minou123

Wondermule Off you go then, start that campaign and drive out the press being nasty 👊 you go Minou!

One thing for sure I'll not being doing; is telling women to keep a "dignified silence"

Okay, tell them to take on the tabloids then, see where that gets them. Worse than they started off, I expect. It hasn’t done Meghan any favours has it?