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Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

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HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 09:46

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

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PicsInRed · 08/03/2021 15:09

Would people here prefer that they clarify it was Charles?

Or worse, that it was "nice guy" (🤣) Will?

Because it's certainly one of them, and it's a total grenade either way.

Thehouseofmarvels · 08/03/2021 15:09

Does anyone think that if the Royal family don't start sucking up to Meghan and Harry, Meghan could refuse to allow them to ever have any contact with her children? Harry would go along with it to keep her happy of course.

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Wondermule · 08/03/2021 15:10

@minou123

Wondermule I think people are forgetting the rough time everyone gave Kate before Meghan came along. The snobby headlines about her mum being an air stewardess, ‘Waity Katey’, she’s just waiting around for William, her dodgy uncle, the photos of her as a student in underwear at the fashion shoot, long lens topless pics, I could go on.

The difference is Kate seems to understand that this is a pitfall of the job, that the media go through a phase of savaging every new member of the RF (Camilla, Fergie, Beatrice’s new husband because he has a child from previous marriage etc).

If Meghan had just held a dignified silence and showed willing by doing some ‘boring’ engagements like visiting community centres and old people’s homes, I really think it would’ve blown over within a year or two.

I think we can all agree Kate got shot from the press. So did Meghan. So do all the women who join the Royal family.

The gutter, tabloid press have said and done the most disgusting, vile, sexist, fat/thin shaming, mother shaming, bullying and lies about these women.

But instead of standing up and trying to stop this, you think women should be silent.

Fuck that!

Kate is entitled to stay silent. But, I for one am applauding Meghan for speaking out about this.

We live in a country were we think its acceptable for some of press to treat women this way, and women should keep quiet. And you've bought this. Hook, line, sinker.

Well, how do you propose to stop them? Nobody is going to stop buying the red tops because they were mean to someone. In fact it throws paraffin onto the flames - I bet the newspapers will sell more copies today because of the Oprah thing.

Short of restricting freedom of the press to stop them writing nasty things about the royals (dodgy path to go down), what can we do?

I do my bit personally, I do not read or buy the red tops.

But they’re a nasty occupational hazard for anyone that wants to be in the public eye. Don’t forget, they have a choice, and just as the pitfalls are enormous, so are the perks.

Same4Walls · 08/03/2021 15:12

Because it's certainly one of them, and it's a total grenade either way.

How on earth can you possibly say that with absolute certainty. That's the problem, you can't but sadly it's not stopping people saying they definitely know.

They won't say who said it as it takes away the rumour mill and then people will stop speculating which is the complete opposite of what they want.

OliviaBean · 08/03/2021 15:12

I don't believe any human being in any context would say no to someone who came to them suicidal asking for help, you would want to be a special nasty individual to do so. Anyway why didn't her husband help for goodness sake.

the80sweregreat · 08/03/2021 15:12

I'm shocked that he was so defensive of her ( 'whatever she wants 'comment he made about her ) yet denied her receiving any help over her suicidal thoughts? Why wouldn't you get any help ? Pregnant and feeling like that is awful.
That is bizarre if he didn't help her?
Considering that the 'heads together ' charity was one he helped to promote ( with Kate and William) this is putting Harry in a bad light indeed! If my Dh told me felt that way I would have advised him not to go to the function and arranged some help for him first and foremost.
It's just what you do isn't it?
I'm surprised he didn't and beyond belief to be honest.

sheilatakeasheilatakeabow · 08/03/2021 15:13

I think so. There's been a lot of PR today hasn't there

theleafandnotthetree · 08/03/2021 15:14

@minou123

Wondermule I think people are forgetting the rough time everyone gave Kate before Meghan came along. The snobby headlines about her mum being an air stewardess, ‘Waity Katey’, she’s just waiting around for William, her dodgy uncle, the photos of her as a student in underwear at the fashion shoot, long lens topless pics, I could go on.

The difference is Kate seems to understand that this is a pitfall of the job, that the media go through a phase of savaging every new member of the RF (Camilla, Fergie, Beatrice’s new husband because he has a child from previous marriage etc).

If Meghan had just held a dignified silence and showed willing by doing some ‘boring’ engagements like visiting community centres and old people’s homes, I really think it would’ve blown over within a year or two.

I think we can all agree Kate got shot from the press. So did Meghan. So do all the women who join the Royal family.

The gutter, tabloid press have said and done the most disgusting, vile, sexist, fat/thin shaming, mother shaming, bullying and lies about these women.

But instead of standing up and trying to stop this, you think women should be silent.

Fuck that!

Kate is entitled to stay silent. But, I for one am applauding Meghan for speaking out about this.

We live in a country were we think its acceptable for some of press to treat women this way, and women should keep quiet. And you've bought this. Hook, line, sinker.

You can think all those things about the press and still think shes a massive twat though. And unfortunately she doesn't give the impression she is waging a campaign against the media for the wider public good or indeed seeking to genuinely effect change, it's more that she doesn't like how they are treating her. As with everything, meaningless word salads about service and compassion and living your truth aside, its all about her.
GetOffYourHighHorse · 08/03/2021 15:15

'They’ve done to Kate, William and Charles exactly what Meghan said was done to her. Stories unchallenged, accusations she couldn’t defend herself against. Now she does it to them.'

Yes why aren't the media shouting about this! All unsubstantiated and very damaging claims. They should be ashamed of themselves.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 08/03/2021 15:18

@OliviaBean

I don't believe any human being in any context would say no to someone who came to them suicidal asking for help, you would want to be a special nasty individual to do so. Anyway why didn't her husband help for goodness sake.
He said he asked for help repeatedly. I do t know why the two of them couldn’t have phoned a psychotherapist and made an appointment. Why did they need to tell anyone? After all Harry had therapy for years. At the same time as saying he asked for help, he also says he just couldn’t talk about it within the family. So which is it? It just doesn’t add up.
GetOffYourHighHorse · 08/03/2021 15:18

'Why wouldn't you get any help ? Pregnant and feeling like that is awful.That is bizarre if he didn't help her?'

Exactly. They managed to live very privately I've no idea why they think we should swallow this story that somebody said they couldn't help so they just went oh ok then. Why didn't Winfrey challenge any of it?

GoLightlyontheEarth · 08/03/2021 15:18

He can’t complain he wasn’t supported in the family if he didn’t talk about what was going on.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/03/2021 15:19

Does anyone think that if the Royal family don't start sucking up to Meghan and Harry, Meghan could refuse to allow them to ever have any contact with her children?

Frankly I'd be amazed if the RF give a stuff about seeing the children.
The kids are completely innocent of course, but the family probably can't be bothered with the drama that goes with them - and it's not as if they're lacking in other youngsters to coo over

randomer · 08/03/2021 15:19

Serious question....how come some of the RF are scarcely known, scarcely reported? OK they may be lower down the pecking order but how do they manage to keep out of it all?

theleafandnotthetree · 08/03/2021 15:19

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'They’ve done to Kate, William and Charles exactly what Meghan said was done to her. Stories unchallenged, accusations she couldn’t defend herself against. Now she does it to them.'

Yes why aren't the media shouting about this! All unsubstantiated and very damaging claims. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Indeed, and in doing this interview they are feeding the media beast they purport to despise so much. The Oprah interview is only the catalyst for more media stories, more speculation, more lies, more innuendo. And it's not a fair fight, they are more or less free to say what they like, the senior royals much less so.
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BootsieBarnes · 08/03/2021 15:20

Looking into my tea leaves I think it will play out like this:

Media storm continues for a few weeks (now Trump circus is dying down).

Meghan will give birth and they will sell pictures and stories.

Prince Philip will pass at some point and we as a nation will go into a nostalgic outpouring about the the Queen, their marriage, stability and what they did over the years. The Queen will become beloved again, big outpouring of support for her.

Ghislaine Maxwell trial will happen in US, reopening Prince Andrew issue. Charles will take over from Queen and removes Andrew's financial support. Andrew moves to Scotland to escape media glare.

Investigation into bullying accusations by Meghan against Palace staff will tick away in the background. When timing considered correct, accusations and possibly evidence will be leaked into press which will paint MM in the same light as Ellen DeGeneres. This will dent the 'woke' image they are carefully crafting with Netflix/Hollywood.

Podcasts on Spotify and Netflix docs will slowly start to fade away as interest dies down. It will become evident they have nothing left to sell. Big studios will disassociate themselves if bullying accusations stick.

Charles and Camilla becomes shortest reigning couple on the throne. William and Kate take over fairly quickly. Public falls in love with royal teenagers George, Charlotte and Louis and the circus goes on.

GoLightlyontheEarth · 08/03/2021 15:21

There’s also a massive imbalance. M’s family were not discussed at all. Her father and his antics and their relationship never mentioned. Yet Charles who seemed to have tried really hard to make her and her mother welcome is vilified.

Graciebobcat · 08/03/2021 15:21

Nobody is going to stop buying the red tops because they were mean to someone

Who the hell is buying them, I often wonder? I'm 45 years old and I've hardly ever bought a newspaper in my life.

Meredithgrey1 · 08/03/2021 15:22

He said he asked for help repeatedly. I do t know why the two of them couldn’t have phoned a psychotherapist and made an appointment. Why did they need to tell anyone? After all Harry had therapy for years. At the same time as saying he asked for help, he also says he just couldn’t talk about it within the family. So which is it? It just doesn’t add up.

That’s what I don’t understand about the dynamic that must have existed for this to happen. Harry asks for help for Meghan, is told no, and that’s it? He doesn’t just ignore them and call someone himself anyway?

carcarbinks · 08/03/2021 15:23

So they were lying about the private wedding? I guess they changed their mind about that story when they realised it made us plebs realise how they despise us. It didn't fit their agenda so had to be changed. What else were they lying about?

While they were busy accusing others of being racist, why didn't Harry own his racist past? Dressing as a nazi, calling an asian soldier a p* and someone else a r**head.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/03/2021 15:24

Didn't Diana also say she felt suicidal around 4/5 months of pregnancy - in fact wasn't it claimed there was an actual attempt involving some stairs at Sandringham?

Considering the number of posters who insist Meghan's modelling herself on Diana I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this coincidence

OliviaBean · 08/03/2021 15:24

Oprah might aswell have laid back and allowed them to tickle her belly, she allowed way too many vague answers to go unchallenged.

I don't buy the no help story at all. They could organise a baby shower in NYC but couldn't find a therapist, really.

Harry isn't exactly protecting her now is he, she felt suicidal on her first pregnancy yet now that she's pregnant again, it's a good idea to literally go to war with the alleged bullies and racists.

I'm trying to see logic with them but I just can't see much of it.

OliviaBensonsEyebrow · 08/03/2021 15:25

Podcasts on Spotify and Netflix docs will slowly start to fade away as interest dies down. It will become evident they have nothing left to sell. Big studios will disassociate themselves if bullying accusations stick.

This. Harry and Megan will rapidly become has beens now that they are no longer insiders.