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Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

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HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 09:46

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

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Laiste · 08/03/2021 14:20

Anyway, what ever you think, one big sad part of this is that the two boys Diana tried to raise as happy and normal as possible for royal brothers are now more or less completely estranged.

They are not close and are no support to each other at all. She must be spinning in her grave!

ShallowCoastalWaters · 08/03/2021 14:20

I am not sure there is dignity in silence when you are being accused of racism towards your immediate family...

Be interesting to see how the Palace handle this.

Charles has spent the last 30 years trying to resurrect his reputation. He is back to square one again..

Sparklingbrook · 08/03/2021 14:20

@earsup

All very interesting ... but what has the ex butler paul burrell got to say...he hasn't piped up yet to earn a few more quid...vile greasey parasite...!!
9He was on Lorraine at 9am this morning, but I didn't hear what he said.

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Laiste · 08/03/2021 14:22

@teentipans thank you :)

theleafandnotthetree · 08/03/2021 14:22

Hah, skipped a few words in my last post, should read.. "the latter would be, as you say, outrageous, the former either mildly condescending or even flattering to M...."

BeforetheFlood · 08/03/2021 14:24

It's obvious that there is a massive gap of understanding and miscommunication between the two sides, and I wonder if that could partly be explained by the fact that Meghan seems very much to see the RF as an institution - 'The Firm' rather than her husband's family, her son's uncles, aunts, cousins, grandparents, her own in-laws.

There can't be many of us who have never rolled our eyes at something crass and outdated said by one of our in laws, or been genuinely hurt by it. But that's multi-generational family life. You can just imagine what it would be like if all of the posters on the MiL threads in AIBU had access to Oprah to air their grievances...

DinoHat · 08/03/2021 14:25

I’m not even sure how they can respond to the racism claims without further info - how can they attempt to verify something so vague. If they say comments weren’t made, they’re alluding to knowing who the allegation was about - which gives it weight in itself.

GreenSlide · 08/03/2021 14:25

@SomethingOnce

Oh yes, obviously we should know that when she said their imaginary wedding was their real wedding that we should have realised it wasn't actually their real wedding

Maybe when your job (novelist, actor etc) involves inhabiting imaginary worlds, the line feels blurry. Maybe it is, who’s to say?

Maybe. The line between imaginary and real seems to have been blurred quite a lot in Meghans head going by that interview.
teentipans · 08/03/2021 14:26

I am not sure there is dignity in silence when you are being accused of racism towards your immediate family.

But they have been silent about the racist press that has targeted M, they are generally silent about all the shit press the women who marry into the RF have to put up with.

Wildswim · 08/03/2021 14:27

@jimmyjammy001

So she's estranged from her own family, now estranged from her husbands family, seems to be a pattern going on here, if they ever break up Harry is screwed, he will have no where to go.
Exactly. Sad
Wildswim · 08/03/2021 14:27

once the initial shock has died down, the royal family will come out of this far better than Meghan.

I agree.

TheKeatingFive · 08/03/2021 14:28

they are generally silent about all the shit press the women who marry into the RF have to put up with.

There is nothing even slightly ‘dignified’ about that.

theleafandnotthetree · 08/03/2021 14:29

@ShallowCoastalWaters

I am not sure there is dignity in silence when you are being accused of racism towards your immediate family...

Be interesting to see how the Palace handle this.

Charles has spent the last 30 years trying to resurrect his reputation. He is back to square one again..

I really don't think he's back to square one. Unless we take every vague accusation to be actually about him, I can't see that he has done much wrong. He has had all along to balance his responsibilities as next in line to the throne, senior royal and public figure with his feelings towards his adult son. Said adults sons actions and words have been for quite some time in conflict with Prince Charles role and with the best interests of the RF as a whole. He has been in an individious position, if my nearly 40 year old child was going around thrashing my family, my business and was so heedless of his privelege, I don't think Id be a bottomless well of sympathy either
Wondermule · 08/03/2021 14:30

I think people are forgetting the rough time everyone gave Kate before Meghan came along. The snobby headlines about her mum being an air stewardess, ‘Waity Katey’, she’s just waiting around for William, her dodgy uncle, the photos of her as a student in underwear at the fashion shoot, long lens topless pics, I could go on.

The difference is Kate seems to understand that this is a pitfall of the job, that the media go through a phase of savaging every new member of the RF (Camilla, Fergie, Beatrice’s new husband because he has a child from previous marriage etc).

If Meghan had just held a dignified silence and showed willing by doing some ‘boring’ engagements like visiting community centres and old people’s homes, I really think it would’ve blown over within a year or two.

But instead she showed herself up by leaping at the chance to surround herself with take A-list ‘friends’, seemingly only wanting to attend film premieres and ‘fun’ engagements like fashion shoots and Vogue, the embarrassing interview in South Africa, the bizarre privacy demands around Archie’s birth, dodging her duty to meet Donald Trump (because clearly it would’ve tarnished her Hollywood liberal reputation) etc etc

Everything she has tried to do ‘differently’ to royal protocol doesn’t look fresh and modern, it looks awkward and staged - the engagement photos, the bizarre walk down the red carpet in Windsor Castle to introduce Archie, the baby foot photo, the recent pregnancy announcement etc.

The public don’t see royals as celebrities, they see them more like politicians - they want to see them doing boring engagements and fulfilling their duty, not living the high life off taxpayer’s money and acting like they might burst with excitement at the opportunity to hug Beyoncé.

Wildswim · 08/03/2021 14:30

@ShallowCoastalWaters

I think this interview is not just damaging to the RF but also damaging to US/UK relations generally.

Just looking at Twitter there is so much hostility from US media/US accounts to not just the RF but towards British culture generally.

They had a platform where they could have done so much good but they have used it to be divisive. The opposite of all their so called mission statement of changing the world with one act of compassion at a time.

Excellent post @ShallowCoastalWaters and I totally agree.
MissFlite · 08/03/2021 14:33

IMO the most shocking and damaging thing for the RF (apart from the comments about Archie) is the allegation that they blocked her from getting help for her mental state.

If true, this is awful.

However, I do find it very hard to believe that they couldn't get a private therapist to their house discreetly, given that they managed to smuggle the Archbishop of Canterbury into the back garden three days before their wedding.

BeforetheFlood · 08/03/2021 14:33

There is much sense in that post Wondermule Much sense indeed.

Sprining · 08/03/2021 14:34

The nastiness and racism is astounding.

Laiste · 08/03/2021 14:37

Was it Charles though? Doing the official skin colour speculating? I don't think so myself. (and i'm no fan of Charles)

Maybe it was Anne? Maybe it was Camilla? I mean it's a knee jerk reaction to assume it was Charles or PP because it ties in with a tidy 'central story' theme. But it could have been any of them. There's a lot of them!

theleafandnotthetree · 08/03/2021 14:37

@BeforetheFlood

It's obvious that there is a massive gap of understanding and miscommunication between the two sides, and I wonder if that could partly be explained by the fact that Meghan seems very much to see the RF as an institution - 'The Firm' rather than her husband's family, her son's uncles, aunts, cousins, grandparents, her own in-laws.

There can't be many of us who have never rolled our eyes at something crass and outdated said by one of our in laws, or been genuinely hurt by it. But that's multi-generational family life. You can just imagine what it would be like if all of the posters on the MiL threads in AIBU had access to Oprah to air their grievances...

Absolutely. Apart from anything else, she seems insufferably right on, humourless and lacking in any sense of acceptance of peoples foibles and how you have to take a bit of the bad sometimes and not overlook the good or you'll live a very lonely and narrow life, talking to people who only confirm your worldview. How dull and narrow. I have this out all the time with my very 'woke' teenage daughter, who thinks virtually everyone over the age of 25 is a racist, a bigot and a misogynist. We may all be a little bit of all of those things but we are so much more too and we are continually evolving.
Snog · 08/03/2021 14:38

Why did they get married twice?
What was the reason for the secret first wedding?

Laiste · 08/03/2021 14:39

they managed to smuggle the Archbishop of Canterbury into the back garden three days before their wedding.

Grin Rolled up in a large rug?

Meredithgrey1 · 08/03/2021 14:39

@MissFlite

IMO the most shocking and damaging thing for the RF (apart from the comments about Archie) is the allegation that they blocked her from getting help for her mental state.

If true, this is awful.

However, I do find it very hard to believe that they couldn't get a private therapist to their house discreetly, given that they managed to smuggle the Archbishop of Canterbury into the back garden three days before their wedding.

I agree with this. And I don’t think it’s paints Harry in a very good light either. His wife tells him she’s suicidal and that she needs help, if it were my wife the palace staff/whoever was denying this help would have had to physically stand in front of my car as I drove her to get help. She was suicidal, if staff denied her help then that’s awful and she probably wasn’t in a position to fight for it herself. But Harry was, and should have. And should definitely have cancelled them going to the royal Albert hall later that day ffs. If she’d posted on mn she’d have been told her in laws are awful but that she also has a DH problem.
8090sTv · 08/03/2021 14:40

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

I really hope they will release the name of whoever made the skin comments though. These comments are not on.
I agree.
Wondermule · 08/03/2021 14:40

@Snog

Why did they get married twice? What was the reason for the secret first wedding?
I get the feeling they enjoy having little in-jokes on how they’ve got one up on the media/public.
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