Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

[HelloThereMeHearties]

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

The Kate thing was massive passive aggression, 'oh but she apologised and owned it and sent flowers' - the only reason that was brought up was to an attempt to say, I am not the nasty one, she is.

She knows Kate cannot answer back.

I find the whole thing mildly sad and depressing. Before the interview, i just saw it as scandalous and gossipy but god they all coming out of it looking really awful. They have properly slagged off the UK.

Maybe they both cried? Meghan because the wedding arrangements were hard to do because of her dad and her sister at the time and Kate because she was upset about some of the arrangements , plus she was pregnant herself and had only just had Louis when they did get married. Tensions were running high no doubt!
Maybe everyone had a cry ! Weddings can do that to people.
Nobody will really know : we know what they have chosen to tell us in an interview , but I think it's probably something in the middle.
I remember Carole Middleton being pulled up on snapping at someone a day or two before Kate's wedding. Weddings are not always joyful things are they?

@sonicsonic

I actually feel desperately sorry for Archie in all this.

I think Archie is fine now. He was clearly not fine in England.

Until he Google's why he doesn't see any of his England family, that (allegedly) someone thought he was too brown for a crown, that his Mom was suicidal whilst carrying him, that his Dad had to move countries to protect him etc

Regardless of what was actually said, it is enormously hurtful and unacceptable to make any comment on the colour of a baby's skin, especially to a new father ahead of the birth. Just mentioning it is so outrageous that I can see why a new mother, unfamiliar with England, might draw a line between that and the possibility that the child won't have adequate security. The comment should never have been made and the attitude behind any such comment could only have been toxic. No wonder there was a reluctance to show pictures of the baby! There should have silence about this and assurances that security would be provided. In that context, perhaps it would have been fine to say that Archie didn't qualify for an HRH title. I guess we'll never know because it seems that information was wrapped up in a great deal of other toxic behaviour including "Don't get help, it wouldn't look for for us"!!!

@teentipans

It’s Harry’s money from his mum. Meghan also earned very good money in Suits. They can pay for themselves and if they feel the pinch, well it’s nothing the rest of us aren’t.

No the Diana money was 10m, hence why they are now happy to pay for themselves because they have additional funds. I can't criticise them for wanting to earn more money & going off to do that.

I can side eye the fact they probably wanted more money so they could live a luxurious lifestyle but again that can be aimed at all of the Royals.

Oh, my mistake. But I will be interested to see where they go from here - I think interest will drop off now the dirty laundry is aired, I mean would you want to listen to an hour of word salad from either of them at a post dinner speech?

She may have thought it was obvious that it wasn't a full legal ceremony but rather the couple making their vows to each other, and meaning them. I find the intended meaning perfectly obvious. If I had made their vows at that time, the legal paraphernalia and media circus would seem a formality to me, and certainly not the moment when I got married in the true sense. It's obvious that they signed on the dotted line later so fair to assume she's speaking assuming others know that.

She said 'married' though. She said it was a secret, so she definitely is not assuming others know.
If she's confused about this, what else is she confused about?

Maybe they both cried?

Normal. So normal. People do cry and have tiffs.

Tensions were running high no doubt! Maybe everyone had a cry ! Weddings can do that to people.

Absolutely & I don't think anyone would think it was a big deal which begs the question why the narrative was M made K cry over tights.

@teentipans

Tensions were running high no doubt! Maybe everyone had a cry ! Weddings can do that to people.

Absolutely & I don't think anyone would think it was a big deal which begs the question why the narrative was M made K cry over tights.

At 10 days post partum tears aren’t difficult to bring on. I can’t imagine being dragged around for dress rehearsals and fittings having just had a baby. How incredibly stressful.

I really hope they will release the name of whoever made the skin comments though.
These comments are not on.

At 10 days post partum tears aren’t difficult to bring on. I can’t imagine being dragged around for dress rehearsals and fittings having just had a baby. How incredibly stressful.

Well yes but what's that's got to do with M wanting to give her side?

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

I really hope they will release the name of whoever made the skin comments though. These comments are not on.

I don't think they will. I think it suits them more to have the allegations ambiguous and therefore impossible to prove or disprove.

There is dignity in silence.

Why didn't the PR just say everyone cried, it's fine or no one cried, it's fine 2 yrs ago to end it?

I have a crackpot theory which will make you or Here we go:

I think that somewhere deep down and in his unconscious Harry chooses a woman who would be so at odds with the (old fashioned) expectations of the role she would had to take on by marrying him that it's doomed to falter and fail. He helps it along by not preparing her for it.

When it fails he gets to attack the media and his family and leave. He's doing it for what they did to his mother. He's doing and saying and acting out all the things he was too young to do and say back then.

There! :)

There is dignity in silence.

I don't think there is any dignity in letting someone else take the fall but we are all different.

Oh yes, obviously we should know that when she said their imaginary wedding was their real wedding that we should have realised it wasn't actually their real wedding

Maybe when your job (novelist, actor etc) involves inhabiting imaginary worlds, the line feels blurry. Maybe it is, who’s to say?

Regardless of what was actually said, it is enormously hurtful and unacceptable to make any comment on the colour of a baby's skin, especially to a new father ahead of the birth.

It can be and if that is how it was intended then there is no excuse. If it was as part of an excited discussion about would the baby have dad’s red hair or mum’s brown eyes then that is a little different. There is no doubt that there have been times Harry and Meghan have perceived issues that did not exist (eg Kate not taking Meghan shopping) but there is also no doubt there have been times they’ve been treated badly.

As well as Diana’s money , the late Queen Mum set up trust funds for grandchildren and great grandchildren.
It’s a bit tone deaf to complain about having to dip into your inheritance when so many people are queuing up at food banks.

@Laiste I think subconsciously some of that might be right. I think H despises some parts of the institution & press.

All very interesting ... but what has the ex butler paul burrell got to say...he hasn't piped up yet to earn a few more quid...vile greasey parasite...!!

@sonicsonic

Regardless of what was actually said, it is enormously hurtful and unacceptable to make any comment on the colour of a baby's skin, especially to a new father ahead of the birth. Just mentioning it is so outrageous that I can see why a new mother, unfamiliar with England, might draw a line between that and the possibility that the child won't have adequate security. The comment should never have been made and the attitude behind any such comment could only have been toxic. No wonder there was a reluctance to show pictures of the baby! There should have silence about this and assurances that security would be provided. In that context, perhaps it would have been fine to say that Archie didn't qualify for an HRH title. I guess we'll never know because it seems that information was wrapped up in a great deal of other toxic behaviour including "Don't get help, it wouldn't look for for us"!!!

But surely theres a difference between 'oh let's hope the baby has its mothers beautiful brown skin rather than your freckly white/pink complexion' and 'We don't want any (insert racial slur) in this family'. The latter would be, as you say outrageous either mildly condescending or flattering to M, whichever way you care to look at it. The point is, they have put out a very vague accusation with no idea of what exactly was said or who said it which allows some people to tar them all with the racist brush. Which seems to me deelpy unfair and damaging. And again, if they were so ninterested in Archie's well being, would they want him growing up reading this kind of thing and wondering about it, God knows enough damage has been done to family relationships