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Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

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HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 09:46

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

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GreenSlide · 08/03/2021 13:47

@teentipans

So basically a story exists that M made K cry & that narrative is upheld for 2 plus yrs & often wheeled out when people want to criticise M for something else. M then says actually it was the other way round & people are like "give K a break", etc so basically the situation is still Ms fault. She is expected to shut up & accept the narrative. That's minimising.

Maybe a few people cared that Meghan was supposed to have made Kate cry and used it as ammo. Many, many more people will be Hmmabout an adult woman going on telly telling stories about who made who cry.

ShallowCoastalWaters · 08/03/2021 13:48

By linking Archies race to the refusal to provide him with security, they have effectively made this a Black Lives Matter moment. The accusation is that the RF do not think Archie's life is worth protecting.

I am no fan of this pair but it looks like this interview has given them a massive amount of support stateside which was probably the intention.

The speculation around who made the comments about Archies skin tone seem to be circulating around Prince Charles and Prince William.

I actually feel desperately sorry for Archie in all this. What a toxic mess he has been born into.

Wondermule · 08/03/2021 13:50

@teentipans

Harry has absolutely zero idea how we live, same as the rest of them. Absolutely zero idea.

I don't disagree with that.

He said he was forced to sign the Netflix deal etc to pay for his family’s security - their security bill would be much smaller if they lived the private life they claim to want and didn’t go on Oprah.

Would it, B & E was 250k a yr each & I assume it would be higher for them. I mean obvs you can criticise them for wanting to live in luxury but that's the RF in general.

The security was a perk of the job. They left the job.

With 38 million in the bank, they can afford their own security. They no longer undertake work to represent Britain (if you can call it work), so they don’t get paid-for security. Simples.

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Same4Walls · 08/03/2021 13:51

I actually feel desperately sorry for Archie in all this. What a toxic mess he has been born into.

Considering how much Harry hated his childhood being so public and his desire to protect Meghan and their children I find it staggering they brought all this up on a TV interview watched by millions. It seems the complete opposite of what parents trying to protect their child from the media would do.

teentipans · 08/03/2021 13:51

Undoubtedly in the awful swamp of the lower levels of the gutter press and the comments sections therein

well yes & their point is the RF or the firm were perpetuating this because of stuff like the false narrative re making K cry.

derxa · 08/03/2021 13:51

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JackieBeaver · 08/03/2021 13:52

@AgeLikeWine

So it turns out that Meghan’s claim that got married three days before the wedding wasn’t actually true. H&M have now ‘clarified’ that it was effectively a private rehearsal of their vows and that they were legally married during the ceremony.

So, having established that she lied at least once during the interview, what else that she said isn’t actually true?

Can you link or tell me where they've clarified that please
DinoHat · 08/03/2021 13:52

I’m really concerned that if I quit my job I might need to return my company car - would my employer not allow me to keep it? Grin

Kokeshi123 · 08/03/2021 13:52

This is something I just don't understand though. Surely it doesn't take a PR company or an aide to tell them how poorly timed it is. They cannot possibly be so blind and deluded into thinking people will have sympathy for their situation with everything else going on in the world. By all means they can do an interview to 'tell their side' but now is clearly not an appropriate time and I'm honestly baffled as to how they cannot see that.

You'd think so, but I've been taking a gander on some left-leaning American sites (Harry and Meghan's intended audience, let's face it), and most people are not only sympathizing but positively gushing over the Stunning And Brave couple.

I think it's easy to underestimate just how much the American left tends to emphasize race at the expense of class. It doesn't matter how wealthy Meghan is or how expensive her baths, houses and dresses are---as long as she can be presented as a POC of some type, she's the oppressed victim and the good one.

(I don't hate her, but I think she and Harry are a tedious pair and the weird fawning over them that I'm seeing is just ridiculous).

teentipans · 08/03/2021 13:54

With 38 million in the bank, they can afford their own security.

I didn't think they had 38m hence why they cut ties to "earn" it & got money from netflix etc.

Wondermule · 08/03/2021 13:55

@teentipans

With 38 million in the bank, they can afford their own security.

I didn't think they had 38m hence why they cut ties to "earn" it & got money from netflix etc.

It’s Harry’s money from his mum. Meghan also earned very good money in Suits. They can pay for themselves and if they feel the pinch, well it’s nothing the rest of us aren’t.
Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/03/2021 13:56

I think the RF cannot possibly let this interview pass without comment. At a minimum they have to address the racism allegations ...

They'd need more detail first, such as what exactly was said and who said it - something that wasn't forthcoming

It's a particularly cheap tactic to throw around generic accusations in the hope something sticks, or better still that an entire organisation's discredited. We see it here all the time, and the speculation about "who it was" is just one more example

teentipans · 08/03/2021 13:56

Maybe a few people cared that Meghan was supposed to have made Kate cry and used it as ammo. Many, many more people will be about an adult woman going on telly telling stories about who made who cry.

I don't think either of us can say who cared the most but I can't criticise her for wanting to put her side across.

teentipans · 08/03/2021 13:59

It’s Harry’s money from his mum. Meghan also earned very good money in Suits. They can pay for themselves and if they feel the pinch, well it’s nothing the rest of us aren’t.

No the Diana money was 10m, hence why they are now happy to pay for themselves because they have additional funds. I can't criticise them for wanting to earn more money & going off to do that.

I can side eye the fact they probably wanted more money so they could live a luxurious lifestyle but again that can be aimed at all of the Royals.

AgeLikeWine · 08/03/2021 14:01

@JackieBeaver

BBC News, under the byline of Jonny Diamond, royal correspondent :

*A source close to the Sussexes has told the BBC that the wedding that Meghan referred to in the "backyard" three days before the public wedding in May 2018 was a private exchange of vows.

They said the couple were legally married on 19 May 2018 during a televised ceremony at Windsor Castle.*

WaggishDancer · 08/03/2021 14:01

@Same4Walls

I actually feel desperately sorry for Archie in all this. What a toxic mess he has been born into.

Considering how much Harry hated his childhood being so public and his desire to protect Meghan and their children I find it staggering they brought all this up on a TV interview watched by millions. It seems the complete opposite of what parents trying to protect their child from the media would do.

Agreed. Isn’t this just history repeating itself?
sonicsonic · 08/03/2021 14:01

So, having established that she lied at least once during the interview

She may have thought it was obvious that it wasn't a full legal ceremony but rather the couple making their vows to each other, and meaning them. I find the intended meaning perfectly obvious. If I had made their vows at that time, the legal paraphernalia and media circus would seem a formality to me, and certainly not the moment when I got married in the true sense. It's obvious that they signed on the dotted line later so fair to assume she's speaking assuming others know that.

Goingferalonfurlough · 08/03/2021 14:02

@TacoLover

The minimising and denial of the race comments about Archie by posters on this forum are disgusting. Their intentions are extremely clear.
How do you know their intentions were clear? If someone said ‘oh Christ we’re going to have a black baby in the family’ then that is absolutely disgusting. And I do think that had anything remotely similar to that been said then we’d bloody well know about it (they’d not keep that quiet). Or, was there a conversation about who the baby may take after in looks once it had been born? You don’t and can’t know what was said
WaggishDancer · 08/03/2021 14:02

I just don’t understand why staying in the line of succession is something Harry has persisted with given his clear dislike of the royal family. He says he pities his father and brother for being king, so why wouldn’t he went to remove any risk to himself and his children.

GreenSlide · 08/03/2021 14:03

@DinoHat

I’m really concerned that if I quit my job I might need to return my company car - would my employer not allow me to keep it? Grin

They should pay for your car insurance for life too!

sonicsonic · 08/03/2021 14:03

I actually feel desperately sorry for Archie in all this.

I think Archie is fine now. He was clearly not fine in England.

Same4Walls · 08/03/2021 14:04

Agreed. Isn’t this just history repeating itself?

It certainly looks that way. Imagine being Archie in years to come and all your peers having access to this sort of information about you from a quick Google search.

oldwhyno · 08/03/2021 14:05

Is "maximising" a thing yet? Like the opposite of "minimising"?

It totally should be, there's a lot of that going on here.

GreenSlide · 08/03/2021 14:05

@sonicsonic

So, having established that she lied at least once during the interview

She may have thought it was obvious that it wasn't a full legal ceremony but rather the couple making their vows to each other, and meaning them. I find the intended meaning perfectly obvious. If I had made their vows at that time, the legal paraphernalia and media circus would seem a formality to me, and certainly not the moment when I got married in the true sense. It's obvious that they signed on the dotted line later so fair to assume she's speaking assuming others know that.

Oh yes, obviously we should know that when she said their imaginary wedding was their real wedding that we should have realised it wasn't actually their real wedding Confused

teentipans · 08/03/2021 14:06

Or, was there a conversation about who the baby may take after in looks once it had been born? You don’t and can’t know what was said

None of us do but I think given the backdrop of racist headlines & death threats it may not have appeared so lighthearted to H & M.