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Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

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HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 09:46

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

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LemonSwan · 08/03/2021 13:20

I have the popcorn ready for this evening. All I can say without watching this is I think Harry is looking like a dickhead right now. Everyone complains about their family to their partners but as a spouse their is a line you have to be careful not to cross. Harry seems to be encouraging/ supporting this public slating which is very short sighted as he can/ will go back to his family and grovel but meg wont be able to do so. Hes making life very difficult for his family (both immediate, extended and his son and nieces). I cant see the gain tbh but there you go.

LemonSwan · 08/03/2021 13:22

Said much more eloquently by cross poster above.

teentipans · 08/03/2021 13:22

Or you can also just be an arsehole and not a victim of racism

So you don't think M experienced any racism?

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user1471543094 · 08/03/2021 13:23

@TacoLover

The minimising and denial of the race comments about Archie by posters on this forum are disgusting. Their intentions are extremely clear.
It totally depends on what the comment was though! Ridiculous to say that people speculating on the comment means that they are minimising. It really could range from innocent to completely disgusting. For such a strong accusation I really don't think it is much to expect that a bit more detail is given. You cannot just accept a statement because it is race related.
MrsTabithaTwitchit · 08/03/2021 13:23

The best thing they can do is say nothing. As H and M haven’t specified who made these comments they can’t really investigate can they. If there are no witnesses to a conversation that apparently even Meghan wasn’t present at what are they meant to do . Ask for people to own up?

At the time of the bridesmaid incident Kate was only about 10 days post partum , probably still feeling pretty rough and a mass of hormones. Maybe M could have been kinder and more compassionate ‘one day at a time’

I hope they feel better today, if they weren’t paid then we have to hope they feel they have got something out of the experience because otherwise it’s a big price to pay .

jerometheturnipking · 08/03/2021 13:26

I'm so annoyed at myself for giving this a moments thought, but my main "WTF" takeaway from this was that the great big fuck off televised "wedding" was pretend because they got married three days beforehand?! If you want to get married in private, just get married in bloody private and don't bother with all the hoo-ha.

fennaut · 08/03/2021 13:26

What Harry doesn't see is you and everyone else is 50% likely to divorce. What makes you think Meghan will respect you when it comes to divorce? You're the one who is living an intimate relationship with her. She knows all the ins and outs about you. Your deepest darkest version of you. Huge red flag.

GreenSlide · 08/03/2021 13:26

'The minimising and denial of the race comments about Archie by posters on this forum are disgusting. Their intentions are extremely clear.'

How can you minimise and deny comments when you don't know what was actually said, and by whom?

GreenSlide · 08/03/2021 13:27

@jerometheturnipking

I'm so annoyed at myself for giving this a moments thought, but my main "WTF" takeaway from this was that the great big fuck off televised "wedding" was pretend because they got married three days beforehand?! If you want to get married in private, just get married in bloody private and don't bother with all the hoo-ha.

Yeah and save us all a few quid while you're at it.

YardleyX · 08/03/2021 13:28

@jerometheturnipking

I'm so annoyed at myself for giving this a moments thought, but my main "WTF" takeaway from this was that the great big fuck off televised "wedding" was pretend because they got married three days beforehand?! If you want to get married in private, just get married in bloody private and don't bother with all the hoo-ha.
The BBC have already confirmed that this was bollocks.

The real wedding was the one in Windsor Castle that was televised for all the world to see.

BeforetheFlood · 08/03/2021 13:29

When they say they asked for money and were refused are they expecting public sympathy for that? Are they aware of how much flak the RF comes in for for the massive burden they already place on taxpayers?

Bluntness100 · 08/03/2021 13:29

The bits where she’s pretending to be nice but actually actually being vicious about someone else

That’s it, there’s a flash in her eyes when she confirms they are racist to her unborn child, we have all seen that spiteful look in someone’s eyes, and you recognise it immediately when you see it.

Archie not being a prince due to his potential skin colour is not where Harry was going, he basically confirmed that he was asked the question before they were married about the potential colour of any child’s skin and what it would mean for the monarchy. I’m fairly sure that happened.
I’d be stunned if it didn’t.

Meghan took it a lot further, and basically made a huge, huge allegation. And she did it with some real spite. She said it was during her pregnancy and basically implied that’s why Archie wasn’t to be a prince. That in some way he was being treated as the lesser of Charless grandkids because of his potential skin tone. Harry didn’t back that up.

Spite is a desire to hurt or offend someone, and that’s the emotion that flashed in meghans eyes.

SomethingOnce · 08/03/2021 13:30

Talk about burning the bridges, they've basically bombed the bridges.

And pissed on the embers.

Yes, he’s experienced tragedy - goodness knows we all felt for him and William when they lost their mother. But dim, entitled drama llama isn’t a good look at the best of times, and when so many of us tax-paying plebs are on the edge, with no fucking safety net, well...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/03/2021 13:31

Harry knows he will always be welcomed back into the Royal fold ... and he's set up nicely so that all the blame for his leaving in the first place lands on Megan - "I didn't even know I was trapped until I met her"
He disgusts me

I agree with the disgust over Harry and also that the RF would certainly blame the "outsider" publicly, but not necessarily that he'd be welcome back - I'd have thought the whole thing's just gone too far now, and there's only so much you can keep blaming someone else for

Time will tell though, but this level of toxicity rarely ends well

sagaLoren · 08/03/2021 13:34

Complaining about having to dip into your inheritance to buy your Californian mansion on the same day as news stories about frontline nurses being given a 1% pay rise is pretty poor form. I'm amazed at the lack of self-awareness. And this is a pop at Harry (who made those comments) not Meghan.

SomethingOnce · 08/03/2021 13:36

I hope they feel better today, if they weren’t paid then we have to hope they feel they have got something out of the experience

A republic?! Well played, Hazza, well played 😂

Bluntness100 · 08/03/2021 13:37

I also don’t think Harry would be welcomed back, he’d be allowed back, and a public display of unity would be given but I think this damage will be long lasting and possibly unforgivable.

teentipans · 08/03/2021 13:38

So basically a story exists that M made K cry & that narrative is upheld for 2 plus yrs & often wheeled out when people want to criticise M for something else. M then says actually it was the other way round & people are like "give K a break", etc so basically the situation is still Ms fault. She is expected to shut up & accept the narrative.
That's minimising.

WireFan · 08/03/2021 13:38

*sagaLoren

Complaining about having to dip into your inheritance to buy your Californian mansion on the same day as news stories about frontline nurses being given a 1% pay rise is pretty poor form. I'm amazed at the lack of self-awareness. And this is a pop at Harry (who made those comments) not Meghan.*

Isn't it just? I had missed that part.

His comments implying that they're extra lucky to be having a girl this time around, so they'll have one of each, also made me bristle. Like, yeah, imagine you were unlucky enough to be having a second child of the same sex as the first (and just a few months after losing a baby to miscarriage....)

Their smugness and entitlement just keeps giving!

Wondermule · 08/03/2021 13:39

@sagaLoren

Complaining about having to dip into your inheritance to buy your Californian mansion on the same day as news stories about frontline nurses being given a 1% pay rise is pretty poor form. I'm amazed at the lack of self-awareness. And this is a pop at Harry (who made those comments) not Meghan.
Harry has absolutely zero idea how we live, same as the rest of them. Absolutely zero idea.

He said he was forced to sign the Netflix deal etc to pay for his family’s security - their security bill would be much smaller if they lived the private life they claim to want and didn’t go on Oprah.

teentipans · 08/03/2021 13:41

Harry has absolutely zero idea how we live, same as the rest of them. Absolutely zero idea.

I don't disagree with that.

He said he was forced to sign the Netflix deal etc to pay for his family’s security - their security bill would be much smaller if they lived the private life they claim to want and didn’t go on Oprah.

Would it, B & E was 250k a yr each & I assume it would be higher for them. I mean obvs you can criticise them for wanting to live in luxury but that's the RF in general.

Spiegelx · 08/03/2021 13:42

I’m not British and I’m a republican not a monarchist. But I must say the only thing that’s worse than the royal family is this pair desperate to eek what cash they can out of their RF connections whilst simultaneously bringing the RF down. FFS get some dignity. So much for doing good in the world and all that crap they spouted. It’s pathetic, and grasping.

2021ismyyear · 08/03/2021 13:42

Good point re nurses. Yeah poor poor Harry. Must be such a struggle living in that mansion. Couldn’t eye roll any harder if I tried.

theleafandnotthetree · 08/03/2021 13:44

@teentipans

Or you can also just be an arsehole and not a victim of racism

So you don't think M experienced any racism?

Undoubtedly in the awful swamp of the lower levels of the gutter press and the comments sections therein. In terms of the royal family itself, my observation at the time she came on the scene was that they seemed to be bending over backwards actually to make her feel welcome and broke many of the normal 'rules' (wasn't there something about her spending Christmas with the RF?). No doubt, no doubt as in any big complicated family there was the odd sniffy comment, though I would imagine as much to do with her nationality, profession and confidence as much as anything. It seemed to me that the main members of the RF have evolved considerably and learned many lessons but the fact remains that its norms and culture and ways of doing things are BY THEIR NATURE going to be some way off the norms and culture and ways of doing things of a mixed race, independent non-British woman coming from the entertainment industry. I think they adapted a bit to her but I'm not sure how reciprocal that was. I genuinely don't think race was a major factor in the 'gap' that exists
AgeLikeWine · 08/03/2021 13:46

So it turns out that Meghan’s claim that got married three days before the wedding wasn’t actually true. H&M have now ‘clarified’ that it was effectively a private rehearsal of their vows and that they were legally married during the ceremony.

So, having established that she lied at least once during the interview, what else that she said isn’t actually true?