Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

[HelloThereMeHearties]

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

@2021ismyyear

I think we are getting to a dangerous point where one cannot call out something wrong done by a black person. Sometimes (most of the time) people are just horrible/nasty/bullies/make errors... and it’s zero to do with race. We must be free to call out these people, what ever their skin looks like. I don’t want to live in a world where we can’t.

And right now, I’m calling out Meg and Harry. For being out of touch. For lecturing me and making out they have a terrible life when it’s all fabricated. For deliberately being self absorbed on international women’s day. Horrible people. For sticking their fingers up to me, the tax payer who they view as complete plebs (eg having a private secret wedding). Yes even you Harry -remember the racial slur you apologised for using a few years back?!

This. Absolutely.

@2021ismyyear

I think we are getting to a dangerous point where one cannot call out something wrong done by a black person. Sometimes (most of the time) people are just horrible/nasty/bullies/make errors... and it’s zero to do with race. We must be free to call out these people, what ever their skin looks like. I don’t want to live in a world where we can’t.

And right now, I’m calling out Meg and Harry. For being out of touch. For lecturing me and making out they have a terrible life when it’s all fabricated. For deliberately being self absorbed on international women’s day. Horrible people. For sticking their fingers up to me, the tax payer who they view as complete plebs (eg having a private secret wedding). Yes even you Harry -remember the racial slur you apologised for using a few years back?!

Exactly.

You literally can’t say anything without being labelled a racist.

Arseholes come in all shapes, colours and sizes.

Obviously I haven’t see it yet. Some of the things they’ve said aren’t true so makes me doubt everything they say. You can’t present yourself as above reproach and then not act that way.
This is all very one sided. Why isn’t Oprah asking Harry about his dubious behaviour, dressing as a nazi for instance. The pair of them are far from perfect. I feel sorry for them as their life will be selling themselves out to America’s for money.

He comes across as very petulant. He's not happy about being the spare or his wife not being centre stage. He could easily have given up his titles and place in the succession since he hates them all so much. I don't understand why they not only want to keep titles from a family that they say it utterly racist and rotten but also want more of them for Archie - and surely Harry knows great grandchildren don't get a prince/princess title automatically. He's a hypocrite.

If Meghan made Kate cry and it’s in the media that’s perfectly ok and Meghan is a monster, but when Meghan sets the story straight she’s throwing her SIL under the bus

I think you’ve missed the point, at no stage did Kate do an interview and say Meghan made her cry. That’s the difference. Meghan aired a petty squabble with a woman who had given birth a couple of weeks before hand. Kate did not. As usual, she has never commented.

If Kate went on Oprah and said Meghan made her cry the reaction would be the same wtf one. But she didn’t, it was Meghan who went on Oprah and said it. And she didn’t need to.

This will be old news soon enough, the monarchy always recovers. It is a storm in a teacup for them. But not for the family relationships. That’s over

I agree; after such a thoroughly unpleasant, cruel showing it's hard to see how it could be otherwise

How very sad ...

I find the notion that someone should be above criticism because of their race itself deeply patronising and infantalising. Arseholes sadly do indeed come in all shapes, sizes and sizes and Megan has as much 'right' to be one as the next person. And face the consequences for that. Just like anyone else.

I think the RF cannot possibly let this interview pass without comment. At a minimum they have to address the racism allegations and also the allegation that Meghan was refused help whilst suicidal.

If they take the never complain, never explain route here I think it will finish them.

I honestly think we could be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Monarchy.

Spot on, Bluntness.

I honestly think we could be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Monarchy.

I’m not sure you really understand the monarchy then. They’ve come through worse than this!

@Pellewsmate

Kate had given birth just 26 days before Harry and Meghan's wedding. Maybe she wasn't feeling great, maybe she snapped, maybe she was upset that Meghan hadn't asked her "how she was doing".

THIS. When Finding Freedom came out, there were suggestions in it that Meghan felt Kate hadn't done enough to show her the ropes. Kate was in the midst of another difficult pregnancy and had two very young children. You can't complain about how you were treated when pregnant/a new mum if you've failed to show any empathy to another mother.

It would have been great to have seen them being interviewed by a journalist who might have challenged them, brought up previous behaviours etc. And might have even given them a bit of credibility as it showed their willingness to engage, to maybe admit they hadn't gotten everything right either. They could have used it as a prism through which to discuss legitimate issues around race, class, etc. sort of soft focus soapy bollocks just made them look so narcissistic and whiney.

I think the RF cannot possibly let this interview pass without comment. At a minimum they have to address the racism allegations and also the allegation that Meghan was refused help whilst suicidal.

The only thing they can say really is “this isn’t true”. And people who don’t believe M&H will believe it. And people who believe M&H will say that’s a lie. There’s nothing to be gained by a back and forth of “that’s not true” “yes it is”

I find the notion that someone should be above criticism because of their race itself deeply patronising and infantalising.

Who said otherwise? You be an arsehole & a victim of racism.

@bakingdemon I don't get that logic though. It is like saying you can't complain about anything. Everyone has their problems and we are all trying to get by. Nothing bad was said publicly at the time to upset Kate. It has all been done and dusted and I am sure Kate is happy that what actually happened is out there to clear it up.

@YardleyX

I honestly think we could be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Monarchy.

I’m not sure you really understand the monarchy then. They’ve come through worse than this!

Philip will die and all the sympathy will turn to the Queen. The end of the day is this for the Americans, who cares if they don’t like the RF. Remember when people thought Diana would bring down the RF, how did that work out?

I honestly think we could be witnessing the beginning of the end of the Monarchy

Yeah everyone said that at the time of the Charles and Diana interviews. Then when Diana died.

The Monarchy aren't going anywhere.

Slimmed down, yes, but that was always the plan.

But the end of them because of these two and this interview, no.

I think you’ve missed the point, at no stage did Kate do an interview and say Meghan made her cry. That’s the difference. Meghan aired a petty squabble with a woman who had given birth a couple of weeks before hand. Kate did not. As usual, she has never commented

But M was just giving her story straight as O asked about the incident. If M was telling the truth then she was very much thrown under a bus.

@DarthWeeder

Harry will soon know all about resentment. Once Megan is out of the post baby fog, and the excitement about Megxit has faded she will be full of resentment...

Resentment towards Harry that he left her woefully unprepared for Royal life.

Resentment that he listened to conversations (plural) and reported straight back to her - in which a family member expressed worry about the potentially dark skin tone of her unborn child, and Harry didn't shut it right down at the very first conversation, like most people would have done.

Resentment that the night after she confessed to him that she was suicidal she was made to dress up and go out to the Royal Albert Hall and he did nothing, or not enough, to stop that happening. That "every time the lights went down in the theatre I sat there weeping" and Harry didn't say - enough, we shouldn't be here, you're not well, lets get you home.

Resentment that Harry hasn't explained to her exactly why Archie wasn't given the title of Prince, he must know the protocol, and instead let her imply to the world that it's because of the colour of Archie's skin and her racist in laws.

He has completely let his wife down and totally thrown her under the bus, even in this interview he's made the bullets and let her fire them, he just comes in at the end all coy, like "well she's implied racism, but I don't want to talk about those conversations and actually clarify exactly what was said and in what context".

Harry knows he will always be welcomed back into the Royal fold when (and I do think it's when and not if) they divorce and he's set up nicely so that all the blame for his leaving in the first place lands on Megan - "I didn't even know I was trapped until I met her".

He disgusts me.

I imagine he'll be resentful too, he's left his country, his job, his family, basically become a whole other person all for her. And he's surely totally alienated his family now by sitting with her while she slags them all off on a tacky TV show. Red flags all over the place with this relationship 🚩