Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

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I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

I mean I would have thought Archie would have had security funded.

They've always been envious of the UK monarchy.
Holy whatever!
The delusion is mind boggling!

Just read that during her interview MM compares herself to Ariel in The Little Mermaid, because she 'married a prince and lost her voice'.

I think I might have to watch after all.

@MrsTabithaTwitchit

Archie could have been granted an Earldom on birth and will be entitled to be a Prince once his grandfather is on the throne.

Apparently he does have an Earldom , he is the Earl of Dunbar. They said they didn’t want to use it when he was born

So if Archie already has an Earldom, what was the problem? He has the same title (even if not used) as Edward's children and Edward's children are the grandchildren rather than great grandchildren of a reigning monarch. Letters Patent were created so that second and later Cambridge children would be Prince/Princess from birth rather than when Charles is King. However, the Cambridge children are the children and sibling of future Kings rather than nephews and cousins.

@sadie9

I think any young woman marrying into the royal family would feel 'bullied' if they were unaware that it's a 'live-in position' with very strict protocols. To include dress hem lengths.

Maybe but she was hardly a young woman, she was practically middle aged!

Just read that during her interview MM compares herself to Ariel in The Little Mermaid, because she 'married a prince and lost her voice'.

that's a bit 🤢

Why would they want Archie to have a title when in the next breath they said that Harry, William and Charles were all trapped in the Royal Family?? Sound to me like they were inclined to find offence in absolutely everything

Indeed!

Sorry, the Little Mermaid 'fell in love with a prince and lost her voice'.

@Housewife2010 I suspect it doesn’t suit ‘their truth’ perhaps more accurately described as their narrative.

I was surprised by her very heavy eye makeup which I didn't think was very flattering. Diana had heavy eyeliner in her interview but it was under her lashes to emphasise her size of her eyes. Meghan had lots of black liner in the rims that made her eyes look smaller and harder. I would have thought that a softer and more flattering makeup would have been more fitting for the occasion.

Why are Americans commentators slagging off the royal family and the very idea of monarchy? They’re not under a monarchy, why do they care so much about all this? Just loving an excuse to bash the old colonial masters I suppose

You've just answered your own questions. Why wouldn't anyone love an opportunity to bash any sort of masters, eh?

Question is why are some people bashing H & M? It's not as if they're anyone's masters or belong to the family of colonial masters. Oh wait...

Harry will soon know all about resentment. Once Megan is out of the post baby fog, and the excitement about Megxit has faded she will be full of resentment...

Resentment towards Harry that he left her woefully unprepared for Royal life.

Resentment that he listened to conversations (plural) and reported straight back to her - in which a family member expressed worry about the potentially dark skin tone of her unborn child, and Harry didn't shut it right down at the very first conversation, like most people would have done.

Resentment that the night after she confessed to him that she was suicidal she was made to dress up and go out to the Royal Albert Hall and he did nothing, or not enough, to stop that happening. That "every time the lights went down in the theatre I sat there weeping" and Harry didn't say - enough, we shouldn't be here, you're not well, lets get you home.

Resentment that Harry hasn't explained to her exactly why Archie wasn't given the title of Prince, he must know the protocol, and instead let her imply to the world that it's because of the colour of Archie's skin and her racist in laws.

He has completely let his wife down and totally thrown her under the bus, even in this interview he's made the bullets and let her fire them, he just comes in at the end all coy, like "well she's implied racism, but I don't want to talk about those conversations and actually clarify exactly what was said and in what context".

Harry knows he will always be welcomed back into the Royal fold when (and I do think it's when and not if) they divorce and he's set up nicely so that all the blame for his leaving in the first place lands on Megan - "I didn't even know I was trapped until I met her".

He disgusts me.

@buzzybeesliveintrees

Why would they want Archie to have a title when in the next breath they said that Harry, William and Charles were all trapped in the Royal Family?? Sound to me like they were inclined to find offence in absolutely everything

Indeed!

I think the overarching theme which underpins everything with Harry and Meghan is - We want to do and say as we like, live life completely on our terms and cherry-pick the bits we do like about the role/the life. Any time the reality of how impossible that is hits them, they take offence or blame somehow or cry racism etc rather than realising that NOONE in any situation gets everything they want. Or that with tremendous privelege also comes at least a mimimum level of sucking things up, they weren't even prepared to do that, let alone meet their responsibilities.

Forgot to add - even the "what Megan wants, Megan gets". Nah, what he really meant during his tantrum was "what Harry wants, Harry gets".

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Suggesting a suicidal person was refused immediate medical assistance is a very serious allegation. I wonder why she would go to the head of HR though who of course deals with staffing issues. Surely they have access to private healthcare for confidential treatment?

Telling the boss of HR would seem a very odd choice.

I thought so too.

Possible that the head of HR said "we don't deal with this" meaning contact your Dr or midwife, and M took it the wrong way?

I really doubt that any time anyone in the RF has a medical issue they have to call the head of HR for permission to see a Dr? All sounds like another thing that H should have been helping M with, and didn't, rather than M being refused treatment.

I wasnt interested in this interview yesterday, but having heard bits of it I think it's devastation for the Royal Family.

You'd think the Royals and those who advise them would have learnt something from Diana's death and what lead up to it. They were now dealing with a Prince, who hates the press (with good cause imo) and a grown woman of colour. Lies (M made Kate cry, The Queen was 'Blindsided' by them moving) came from the Palace and the media went with them, H&M go t no support at all. Why should any adult, especially one who was having racist shit thrown at her, stand back and say nothing?

I'm guessing that Megan not having heard of or researched Harry before meeting and dating him means that she was unaware of this:

www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-harry-idUSTRE5092E720090111

It certainly supports Harry's claim that he was unaware of how bad racism was in the UK until he married Meghan. Yes Harry, it's so bad that even Royal family members can be the target of it and not just commoners....and it doesn't only get dished out by the privileged upper classes.

Apparently, if you're a Royal you can call someone a P* and mean no malice by it. 🤔

I heard an historian yesterday say that after WW2, every European Monarchy downsized, got rid of many palaces, land etc, every one except the UK. He said the UK Monarchy as it now, will not survive and if they don't change very shortly, there will be big troubles ahead for them.

Kate had given birth just 26 days before Harry and Meghan's wedding. Maybe she wasn't feeling great, maybe she snapped, maybe she was upset that Meghan hadn't asked her "how she was doing".

Re HR I thought she'd spoken to someone in the household who'd told her to suck it up, and then had contacted HR hoping they might be able to help as they'd help the staff? Buy given he said he didn't tell his family and she didn't tell him initially it's unclear how explicit she was - I'm struggling, I want this to end isn't necessarily I can't cope, I feel suicidal.

All sounds like another thing that H should have been helping M with, and didn't

I think there's a lot of that going on here, Harry should have done a lot more.

They should pay back every penny that their wedding - that they say wasn't their real wedding - cost to the taxpayer. People are struggling after a terrible year where people have lost loved ones, jobs and security and they come out with this guff. Give us our money back. They disgust me.

Resentment that the night after she confessed to him that she was suicidal she was made to dress up and go out to the Royal Albert Hall and he did nothing, or not enough, to stop that happening. That "every time the lights went down in the theatre I sat there weeping" and Harry didn't say - enough, we shouldn't be here, you're not well, lets get you home.

Actually she said that he said she shouldn’t go, and she said she couldn’t be left alone, so they both went. However, if it were me (and while I’m not royal, I have been suicidal), I’d struggle to forgive him for taking me to what is essentially a work event, rather than cancelling and us both staying home. She was pregnant, an excuse could have been made, “staying home on the advice of drs” would have done, and would barely have been a lie since given the state of her health that probably is what a dr would have recommended had they spoken to one that day.

@LizzieSiddal

I wasnt interested in this interview yesterday, but having heard bits of it I think it's devastation for the Royal Family.

You'd think the Royals and those who advise them would have learnt something from Diana's death and what lead up to it. They were now dealing with a Prince, who hates the press (with good cause imo) and a grown woman of colour. Lies (M made Kate cry, The Queen was 'Blindsided' by them moving) came from the Palace and the media went with them, H&M go t no support at all. Why should any adult, especially one who was having racist shit thrown at her, stand back and say nothing?

To be fair, we have no way of knowing whether these were lies or not, Meghan or Harry saying they are doesnt make it so surely.

In his cringey interview with Corden Harry said they had watched The Crown, and I wonder how much that influenced their decision making here.

It seems they really see Meghan as the Diana figure, and want to slot her into that role as the innocent, doe-eyed girl who is crushed by the ruthless demands of protocol and British stiff upper lip. They will be aware of the swell of public sympathy for Diana in the wake of the last series, and the condemnation of Charles.

Except Diana was a 19 year old kid who had no idea what she was getting into. She'd had a sheltered upbringing, wasn't that bright, didn't have the benefit the internet and she was pretty much absorbed into the family without any outside support. Meghan is a thirty something professional, independent woman who has held her own in one of the most competitive, ruthless, cut-throat industries imaginable. She's been married before. She has the entire internet at her disposal to research stuff like royal etiquette, has her own large reserves of wealth and access to the very best and most expensive professional support. The comparison is ridiculous.

I think it's also pretty relevant to remember that she's an actress.