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Does anyone else think that the Harry & Meghan show isn't going to be that explosive?

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HelloThereMeHearties · 07/03/2021 09:46

I really doubt that loads of dirt will be raked, or muck spread. I'm guessing that there will be a few "it was hard to speak" type complaints, which the media will blow up, but that it's not actually going to be as exciting as we're all being led to believe?

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sagaLoren · 08/03/2021 08:30

I've spent some time with people in the aristocracy (the types who hang out in the same circles as William and Harry) and they were mostly absolutely vile. I met some of them at the time of Kate and William getting together and there was a whole conversation about how Kate was far too common to be a royal and had "no breeding". During the conversation someone also used a racial slur and made fun of people with regional accents. It was horrible. Given that experience, none of the revelations about the royals surprise me in the slightest.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 08/03/2021 08:32

The comment about the baby's skin colour is not on.

Not saying who it was that made the comment is more damaging to the RF than naming that person. It was very cleverly done by H&M.

teentipans · 08/03/2021 08:32

Well I don't think they can outright name Charles if it is him due to the commonwealth

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muddyford · 08/03/2021 08:34

Is this the moment to mention James Hewitt?

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 08/03/2021 08:34

Why not?

Whoever it was, name them, rather than throwing it in the air.

Sparklingbrook · 08/03/2021 08:34

It's interesting that everyone assumes the comments made about the colour of Archie's skin were by a male. Could have been anyone.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 08/03/2021 08:34

Is this the moment to mention James Hewitt?

No, there never is a moment to mention James Hewit.

cicelyella · 08/03/2021 08:36

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WinnieThePoohWeNeedAPoo · 08/03/2021 08:38

The other thread was deleted just as I was typing this. For the record, I've not been on any side but I believe and don't believe some things based on how I see things.

I've already said in the now deleted thread I believe Kate made Meghan cry and can make anyone cry because she seems the sort to have a sharp word or stare, etc or worse, smile in your face and slag you off behind your back.

I don't believe the Queen is just a sweet little old lady because like the rest of us, she has faults and she seems to enjoy all the bowing and scraping, pomp and all people do for her.

I think it's terrible that Meghan (and Diana) were left to themselves without any formal coaching as to what they need to know, do and learn as new members of the RF even before the wedding so they could choose to carry on or not if it was too much. I blame the RF, Harry (for Meghan) and all the women in the family (who may have left them to wobble like they also did in their time, perhaps?).

I don't think sniggering at the preacher at H&M's wedding was based on racism but more about his style of preaching which does say something about the insularity of those sniggering.

I think Meghan (and Harry) have been wronged in some ways but they're also playing things up in some ways.

My new comment:

To be honest, I question the 'how dark his skin might be' angle. I know people say such things both in a light conversational way and in a nasty/racist way. I can't say I believe how dark his skin would be was questioned as though it was a serious consideration or was even said in that way.

First of all, who in the world would know what his skin would look like until he comes out so anyone asking that in a serious way is really odd.

Secondly, he's the offspring of a white father, a half white and white-passing mother, 3 white grandparents and 1 black grandparent. I mean, I know genes can be funny but the last thing I would think is that he'd come out dark at all. He's more white than he is Black. He's more white than Meghan is. So that's all a weird angle unless they're also following the old racist trope of one Black drop or whatever.

If Phillip made that remark, I can see it being an offhanded nasty remark as usual - not a surprise, hence why they may not wish to reveal it. Leaving the name out could then mean they want it to be seen as a bigger issue than it probably would be if people found out it was him.

I don't see Charles, Williams or Kate saying that but even if they did, I really can't see it being said in a mean way at all. But leaving the name out also makes it seem like a bigger deal.

WinnieThePoohWeNeedAPoo · 08/03/2021 08:41

I also said I don't believe Archie wasn't given a title because he was 75% white or black or mixed race or whatever you want to call him.

Pimlicojo · 08/03/2021 08:41

I would like the Archbishop of Canterbury to confirm whether he married them a few days before the ceremony as they claim.

GrumpyHoonMain · 08/03/2021 08:43

@DarthWeeder

she didn't know she had to curtsy in private

Did Harry forget to mention that? In fact, did Harry tell her anything about his family? It seems not. Confused

Just like he ‘forgot’ to be arsed making any effort to go and meet his father in law in person before the wedding. The first time he was proposing to meet him was at the end of the aisle on the wedding day being televised to millions of people. He has no problem hopping on a jet for other reasons but couldn’t do this?

He really did his wife a total disservice. I used to think he was ok but I can’t stand him now.

This suggests to me that he doesn’t bow in private and expected his wife to be offered the same curtesey. Who the fuck expects someone to still curtsey in private???
livinlavida2021 · 08/03/2021 08:43

Why do royal family threads keep getting deleted???

I'm very confused

Sparklingbrook · 08/03/2021 08:44

@livinlavida2021

Why do royal family threads keep getting deleted???

I'm very confused

Because some posters can't help themselves with what they post generally. MNHQ don't want to be sued maybe?
teentipans · 08/03/2021 08:44

I think Harry said there was a concern over the skin colour which I see as different to just pondering what it would be like.

Re the naming thing I'm not sure, if it was William or Charles (don't think it was Kate) that could be devastating as the RF tread a very fine line of existence. They have to have the public on side, which can turn very quickly & with the BLM backdrop could be criticism they can't come back from. Many people aren't in favour of a RF in the current form when the Queen dies but W&K are popular.

teentipans · 08/03/2021 08:45

Who the fuck expects someone to still curtsey in private???

I wouldn't have thought they did this

TipToingParent · 08/03/2021 08:45

I think it is really bad that they have come out and said they were married 3 days before the wedding. It is the same as when Archie was born, they didn't want us, we the taxpayers who funded their lives, to know.

Not telling us about the wedding was a "F^ck you dumb plebs".

Why tell us this now? What was the point?

I think any money that was put into that wedding by the British taxpayers should be paid back.

MissFlite · 08/03/2021 08:46

Why would they want Archie his to have a title anyway if they were so unhappy with the RF?
There is so much that seems contradictory.
If anyone is to blame for Meghan's naivety, it's Harry.

Kinsters · 08/03/2021 08:46

This suggests to me that he doesn’t bow in private and expected his wife to be offered the same curtesey. Who the fuck expects someone to still curtsey in private???

The royal family have to really believe in this hierarchy crap and everything that goes with it like the curtseying. If they don't then why should any of the rest of us? And they rely on us believing in it for the continuation of the monarchy. It's no surprise to me that they curtsey/bow in private as well as in public.

DavidsSchitt · 08/03/2021 08:46

"I would like the Archbishop of Canterbury to confirm whether he married them a few days before the ceremony as they claim."

I'm sure he's reading MN and will be along in a minute to answer your demands Grin

teentipans · 08/03/2021 08:47

Why would they want Archie his to have a title anyway if they were so unhappy with the RF?

I read as they wanted the title as the security came with it.

randomer · 08/03/2021 08:47

Couldn't somebody from within the inner sanctum have acted as a mentor to M?

The wedding was toe curling,a complete mismatch of ancient and modern....a taste of things to come.

Sparklingbrook · 08/03/2021 08:47

@DavidsSchitt

"I would like the Archbishop of Canterbury to confirm whether he married them a few days before the ceremony as they claim."

I'm sure he's reading MN and will be along in a minute to answer your demands Grin

Yes, come on Justin, sign up to MN and answer the question. Grin
TipToingParent · 08/03/2021 08:48

As for the race accusation. You can't just make this statement. You can't just say someone was racist and leave the world speculating as to who that was and instead of addressing it, just tar the whole family with the racist brush.

He should come out and say who said it, so we can hold them accountable, or he shouldn't have said it in the first place.

Harry isn't brave. He is a coward.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 08/03/2021 08:48

@teentipans

she didn't know she had to curtsy in private.
So why didn't Harry tell her?! He's a fool, and probably not very bright