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The latest royal family drama

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Kinsters · 03/03/2021 05:52

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

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Kinsters · 03/03/2021 09:23

And hey, as you said Sparkling brook, I can post wherever and whatever I like, right?

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Sparklingbrook · 03/03/2021 09:24

Not much else to entertain myself with

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Roussette · 03/03/2021 09:25

But Sunbathing there are articles out there that Diana screamed at staff, that Kate was reprimanded for being sharp or not so pleasant with staff. Why is this such a big thing?

Yes on Palace not protecting staff but that's it.
Have a look at my link in this thread earlier on about a Sun Chief Editor who was twisting someone's arm for half an hour tryng to get her to write made up stuff about Meghan.
Says it all.
Clickbait

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Sparklingbrook · 03/03/2021 09:25

@Kinsters

And hey, as you said Sparkling brook, I can post wherever and whatever I like, right?
Hey, yes of course you can but this thread comes across as a bit gleeful that's all, with the exclamation marks and speculation...
Mockolate · 03/03/2021 09:25

H and M however are not prepared to do that . I suspect ( obviously no proof ) that M is driving the desire for interviews etc as she clearly has an axe to grind

You say yourself you're just wildly speculating (ie, no proof) so why even insinuate that?
Just wondering why you'd automatically go to M "having an axe to grind" (?) and "driving things?"
Why not Harry?
Or why not they're both wanting to speak out about how they were treated?

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Kinsters · 03/03/2021 09:26

Sparkling I do overuse exclamation marks...

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JesusAteMyHamster · 03/03/2021 09:27

Tbh I think the Andrew thing was the final straw and a large part of the reason they upped sticks....... The Palace will be more than happy with the constant scrutiny of them as it takes focus away from the real scandal.

Roussette · 03/03/2021 09:27

Yes but one of the points of contention is that they shouldn't be using their royal status to make money hence why titles etc need to go

Do you honestly honestly think that the fact they have the word 'Sussex' attached to their name makes them money? They would be known without it, and how about Andrew, another non working Royal, being stripped of his 'Duke of York?'

Sparklingbrook · 03/03/2021 09:29

@Kinsters

Sparkling I do overuse exclamation marks...
Things do come across differently if you use exclamation marks.

Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

Hits a bit differently to-

Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have?

SnottyLottie · 03/03/2021 09:30

Someone further upthread mentioned that Catherine has been reprimanded in the past for being sharp with staff. Could someone please help me find an article for this? I’ve tried googling ‘Kate Middleton reprimand’ ‘Kate Middleton staff’ and similar but nothing about this is coming up. I am intrigued...

Brefugee · 03/03/2021 09:31

I’m fairly certain that any Royal Aide will have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement , so wouldn’t be able to leak stores

have you ever signed a NDA? I've signed loads. The trick with whistleblowing/leaking is not to have it attributable to you Grin

Bullying? I have no idea. I did see once that her staff were complaining that she sent emails at 5am. That is neither here nor there but the implication they seemed to have taken was that they must immediately respond. Which as anyone who works in an office knows is complete bullshit. Emails are to be read and answered at your convenience. I would have understood it as bullying if the 5am emails were accompanied with an instruction that they must always be actioned/replied to within 15 minutes or something.

Bullyinng is a very vague term and i wonder if it really is bullying in the workplace or not working like the rest of the royal family?

SleepingStandingUp · 03/03/2021 09:32

This is hardly new news. There was rumours hand the issues with K were because M yelled at Ks staff and K wouldn't have it and they M treated her staff badly.

ancientgran · 03/03/2021 09:34

@fronz

At least Harry wasn't good friends with a peado though!
Why is that always used as some sort of magic getout for them?

I would love to send them a copy of the item from Yemen on the BBC news, the blind 9 year old teaching younger children in their ruined school when there weren't enough teachers. They all need to get some perspective.

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Kinsters · 03/03/2021 09:37

Thanks for the english lesson Sparkling.

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dottiedodah · 03/03/2021 09:37

I think whatever the wrongs and rights here ,it seems bad timing to go ahead with this interview with Prince Philip so ill.Also the Queen is unlikely to be able to answer any accusations.Maybe Meghan felt the pressure of being in a Royal family, and took it out on her staff or maybe not .Either way I think they have decamped to the US so why do we keep hearing about them?

SunbathingDragon · 03/03/2021 09:37

@Roussette

But Sunbathing there are articles out there that Diana screamed at staff, that Kate was reprimanded for being sharp or not so pleasant with staff. Why is this such a big thing? Yes on Palace not protecting staff but that's it. Have a look at my link in this thread earlier on about a Sun Chief Editor who was twisting someone's arm for half an hour tryng to get her to write made up stuff about Meghan. Says it all. Clickbait
It always has to be a competition between people with you. This thread is about today’s articles. I don’t support the royal family. I’d willingly find something to back up all of them have behaved badly or unacceptably. Start a new thread about each member and I’ll happy contribute to it on an individual basis.

Today’s articles aren’t based on sources potentially making things up. They contain copies of emails from Meghan’s own staff reporting her.

Jason Knauf, the couple's communications secretary at the time, submitted a formal complaint about the claims in October 2018 in an apparent bid to protect his staff. In his email, he said: "I am very concerned that the Duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year. The treatment of X was totally unacceptable. The Duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights. She is bullying Y and seeking to undermine her confidence. We have had report after report from people who have witnessed unacceptable behaviour towards Y."

knittingaddict · 03/03/2021 09:38

Prince Andrew should be in prison. I don't think the same can be said of Harry.

derxa · 03/03/2021 09:39

@SleepingStandingUp

This is hardly new news. There was rumours hand the issues with K were because M yelled at Ks staff and K wouldn't have it and they M treated her staff badly.
The important question for me is 'Were the Palace staff bullied?' Work place bullying is horrible and I've been at the sharp end of it.
artquejtion · 03/03/2021 09:39

I think their interview with Oprah will be really sleek and on another level compared to Andrew's, Charles or Diana's interviews. There will be a big huge PR machine behind it, both Oprah's and the Sussexes, to ensure any criticism can be easily debunked. Hopefully Harry and Meghan will also be able to offer some self reflection discussions on part in all that happened, there are two sides to every story.

The view has always been that leaks about the Sussex's came from the Cambridge office, not the Queens. I think this bullying leak is also being attributed to the Cambridges' team. I don't doubt for a minute that she could have been a difficult boss, she seems very single minded and has a strong belief in herself The timing of a bullying accusation coming out now though is certainly suspicious.

They are not the only people who chase celebrity type fame, despite having a fortune.

Brefugee · 03/03/2021 09:40

There was a story ages ago saying that Kate had told her not to speak rudely to staff at Kensington palace.

Anyone who has worked in a big international company knows there are unbendable protocols of how and when to speak to people, even who you are allowed to speak/email to etc etc. And we all have stories of the foreigner (often German or American) who just doesn't get that and is either too stiffly formal or too familiar and pally.

So maybe she did yell, and that would be bad, but having my SIL "tell me off" and then let that go public? I'd go to the USA and LC with that kind of family too.

But I'm not a monarchist. I am very hopeful that this will all destroy the RF and they'll bugger off to (semi) obscurity.

Wondermule · 03/03/2021 09:40

@knittingaddict

Prince Andrew should be in prison. I don't think the same can be said of Harry.
So if you have a dodgy relative, you’re absolved of all criticism? Great news 👍🏻
ancientgran · 03/03/2021 09:40

@Roussette

They just wanted to make their own money. It was all about "financial independence"

Well done them! They can't be criticised for leeching off the taxpayers then... unlike the rest of the RF and non working Royals like PA.

I thought he got a big allowance from Prince Charles? Or has that stopped? Maybe it has now they are making lots of money.
MrsIsobelCrawley · 03/03/2021 09:41

Gosh, this is shocking

How dare Meghan Markle bring disrepute on a family who previously only had to deal with issues such as sexual offenders, paedophiles, nazi collaborators, etc.

PumpkinPieAlibi · 03/03/2021 09:41

I actually like Meghan anf Harry but this does not look good.

The fact that they actually called out Buckingham Palace says a lot. Plus, it's The Times, not the Mail so that gives the story a bit more weight and they actually quote named staff members and an email that was sent so it's not fabricated.

Interestingly, Jason Knauf sent the email that was quoted and is now a key member of the Cambridges' staff. I feel like the quotes and emails would not have been released without William's knowledge and go-ahead.

This whole thing is not going to end well.

Brefugee · 03/03/2021 09:41

OTOH if this puts the focus on protecting people from workplace bullying and people are more aware of it and steps are taken, that's good.