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The latest royal family drama

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Kinsters · 03/03/2021 05:52

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

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ExtraordinaryQuince · 04/03/2021 10:01

What I don’t understand about this pair is why they opted into the pomp and ceremony of a very expensive, tax payer funded, televised around the world Royal Wedding when they didn’t actually want to be part of ‘the Firm’? Why not bugger off to LA and have a private wedding there? I’m sure the press would have lost interest quite quickly.

I think the truth is that they don't know what they want. They are both very messed up, from highly dysfunctional families and without much insight. With all the money at their fingertips they could have got decent professional intervention but instead it's like watching a couple of kids, or a couple of animals - everything is a knee jerk reaction and defensive, none of it makes much sense. Unfortunately I don't think H is bright enough to see it and M is too narcissistic.

Mummy195 · 04/03/2021 10:02

@HoneyIShrunkMyAss

They did want to be part of the firm at the beginning, until all sorts of things changed. I suspect that the wedding was not really their suggestion. Ppl were unhappy with Brexit, so I can see how a Royal wedding could be seen as a way to cheer up the nation.

Looks like TM himself was the one postponing the meets - Doria made them. They did offer help and support for him, which he refused. TM publicly humiliated MM, even here on MN she would have been advised to nc.

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Kinsters · 04/03/2021 10:06

HoneyIShrunkMyAss I can only assume that they didn't realise the constraints of being royal. They wanted the fame and recognition that comes with it but also wanted more. Whether they realised they wanted more at the time of their wedding who knows.

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Mummy195 · 04/03/2021 10:06

@peepholepringle

I don't think any of us on here need to ponder the authenticity of these allegations. In fact I'm surprised they've not already sued the news outlets that were reporting this years ago, which they would absolutely do if untrue, surely?
They cannot sue when the paper did their part by asking the palace and they come back with no comment. So all the lies that have been printed cannot be challenged in court.
derxa · 04/03/2021 10:08

[quote Mummy195]@HoneyIShrunkMyAss

They did want to be part of the firm at the beginning, until all sorts of things changed. I suspect that the wedding was not really their suggestion. Ppl were unhappy with Brexit, so I can see how a Royal wedding could be seen as a way to cheer up the nation.

Looks like TM himself was the one postponing the meets - Doria made them. They did offer help and support for him, which he refused. TM publicly humiliated MM, even here on MN she would have been advised to nc.[/quote]
Oh my God

wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 10:08

[quote Mummy195]@HoneyIShrunkMyAss

They did want to be part of the firm at the beginning, until all sorts of things changed. I suspect that the wedding was not really their suggestion. Ppl were unhappy with Brexit, so I can see how a Royal wedding could be seen as a way to cheer up the nation.

Looks like TM himself was the one postponing the meets - Doria made them. They did offer help and support for him, which he refused. TM publicly humiliated MM, even here on MN she would have been advised to nc.[/quote]
Seriously they didn't want the wedding? Are you for real? They both threw a tantrum over a Tiara that they wanted and verbally abused a member of the queens staff over a wedding that they didn't want? She paid £750,000 for a dress for a wedding she didn't want? She most definitely wanted all the glitz and glamor of a royal wedding! She just didn't like what came afterwards and what was expected of her as her payment to the firm/press/public for that huge glamorous wedding!

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 04/03/2021 10:09

They cannot sue when the paper did their part by asking the palace and they come back with no comment.
So all the lies that have been printed cannot be challenged in court.

I think you need to understand what can and cannot be sued and also, someone saying no comment on your behalf does not prevent legal action being taken.

wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 10:10

@Mummy195 The reason the palace came back with no comment was because they cannot deny what is true!!!

Serenster · 04/03/2021 10:11

I find it almost impossible to square the idea that Meghan and Harry didn’t want a big wedding with the reality that they used it as a networking event par excellence to connect with big Hollywood names, who they didn’t know/barely knew...

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 04/03/2021 10:11

@Serenster

I find it almost impossible to square the idea that Meghan and Harry didn’t want a big wedding with the reality that they used it as a networking event par excellence to connect with big Hollywood names, who they didn’t know/barely knew...
This sounds very plausible and likely.
ExtraordinaryQuince · 04/03/2021 10:13

[quote wewillmeetagain]@ExtraordinaryQuince yes its me![/quote]
I bet you wish you could talk!

redspecial · 04/03/2021 10:14

I think many of the royal family are and historically have been bullies towards their staff why do you think that? the RF and aristocracy grow up with staff and know how to treat them, many are treated like family members and are rewarded for their hard work and discretion. Many are proud to be a part of it and to have the kudos on their CV (the pay is relatively crap, apparently). Its newly minted people who haven't grown up with staff that are less likely to know how to treat them.

the earrings thing was pathetic but there's no way the Times would print anything blatantly untrue about the litigious duchess right now. And H&M's lawyers didn't deny it, they said it was 'defamatory' which is something else entirely.

has anyone else read the tale about the Australia tour? its on Quora for anyone interested. there is just too much of this stuff about over the last few years for none of it to be at least partly true. The press were good to H&M at first, but they have a funny way of presenting a vibe of someone even when they've been asked to suppress things (maybe in return for interviews or photo ops). if buck house is no longer interested in suppressing anything the bullying story could just be for openers.

Roussette · 04/03/2021 10:14

They were given Frogmore cottage and estate to live in and had £3m renovation paid for by the British taxpayers
You see... this is when I get fed up with these threads. Stuff like this is quoted and it is untrue because they paid back the £3M @ShapeShiftedForThis

@Serenster There is lots about your post I actually agree with. They are polarising, that much is true. And it would look from the outside that I am a big fan of them, but as I've said before no I am not. I just find some of the stuff written about them on here just horrible. Really horrible.
Not just on here, in the murky press, on the telly, and lots of other places.
They have undoubtedly done some stupid stupid things, they've handled things wrong, they're tone deaf at times but they do not deserve all that is levelled at them.

For instance, I've just got back from Tesco... I turn on the telly, there is the objectionable Andrew Neil pontificating about them and twice he called Prince Harry and Meghan 'Mr. and Mrs. Markle' with a huge sneer on his face. This is supposedly a renowned commentator/journalist yet he can't help but show his disdain for them and the words coming out of his mouth were equally horrible. They do not deserve such obvious hate on here and other places.

OverweightPidgeon · 04/03/2021 10:15

I agree that they don’t seem to know what they want.

Roussette · 04/03/2021 10:15

Ahhh... true to form... Andrew Neil has now just said 'poor people are fat'

kirinm · 04/03/2021 10:17

Did the palace deny the rumours about Prince William shagging Kate's mate? Pretty sure they didn't. IF we are using the denial / no comment to analyse what is and isn't true, seems that William is a bit of a dick.

No, the reason they don't comment is because there is a royal protocol not to. The fact they've issued the statement they did in respect of these allegations breaks the protocol which either suggests it is a. true or / and b. done deliberately due to the Oprah interview.

I still find it hard to believe the Oprah interview is going to be explosive. I just can't see Harry allowing it but who knows. I mean, it'll be the end of any relationship they have with the family if it is.

OliviaBean · 04/03/2021 10:19

Harry really is not protecting his wife if he thinks their current strategy is going to work. The RF will protect the institution at all costs. What is he thinking.

I just don't get what they think they will achieve, I believe there's wrong on both sides but they won't win the war. They've plenty money, are meant to be deeply in love, have a beautiful baby boy with another on the way, enjoy that for goodness sake. They need to mind their own relationship, not this constant fighting with people.

Honestly, never explain, never complain is so true. You have to wonder what their end game is.

ShallowCoastalWaters · 04/03/2021 10:19

Several women have come forward with credible evidence of abuse at the hands of two powerful and senior members of an elite and privileged family - whose claims have been witnessed and verified.

Yet we have people on this thread whose first reaction is disbelieve them and call them liars.

How sad but predicable is that?

Of course it is absolutely fine for this pair to have a global platform and audience to voice their grievances at will. Unlimited wealth to try and silence those who dare to challenge them. The little people however must be quiet and know their place.

Mummy195 · 04/03/2021 10:21

@TheCatWithTheFluffyTail

They cannot sue when the paper did their part by asking the palace and they come back with no comment. So all the lies that have been printed cannot be challenged in court.

I think you need to understand what can and cannot be sued and also, someone saying no comment on your behalf does not prevent legal action being taken.

You can try to sue, but you will most likely not win.

The papers were corrected on the issues, and wrote a small little correction somewhere on pg10

Mummy195 · 04/03/2021 10:22

I never said they did not want the wedding. I said, it was possibly not their recommendation or suggestion. Big difference, I know H&M words get twisted all the time, don't twist mine.

Janegrey333 · 04/03/2021 10:22

How right the RF are to investigate this appalling behaviour, and to do so immediately. We are well rid.

wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 10:23

@ExtraordinaryQuince although i have two relatives with prominent positions at the castle because i live in the area i know quite a few people employed by the crown in not so prominent positions. Down to a person they all think that H and M have behaved appallingly. Harry himself had a bit a a reputation before Meghan came along for being capable of throwing tantrums and behaving badly but it was always covered up by the palace! Now that the palace are not covering up for them its all leaking out!

Roussette · 04/03/2021 10:24

I don't click on DM links. They have an obvious agenda given they are in hock for £450,000 in damages to be paid to MM for a previous article.. They will say anything to get at her for clickbail for their rag.

Janegrey333 · 04/03/2021 10:25

@Janegrey333

How right the RF are to investigate this appalling behaviour, and to do so immediately. We are well rid.
This is not the way people were treated even in the Victorian era. Disgusting.
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