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The latest royal family drama

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Kinsters · 03/03/2021 05:52

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

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wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 09:31

@Mummy195

I find it hard to believe that the palace has allowed all sorts of things to be printed about MM, without saying a word, except 'no comment'. Now we are expected to believe they protected MM in this case. Why this case?

The people who want to speak their truth can go ahead. The so called victims have never said anything so far.

I assume they will be recycling all their old stories until and after the interview. This is all recycled material, just made a bigger deal of now.

I don't think HMQE and the 'family' are actually the 'firm'. I think they are referring to the rather powerful staff.

The palace allowed the stories to be published without a word because there is some element of truth in them all, therefore they cannot defend her!
TeaLibrary · 04/03/2021 09:31

If the incidents described in either of these accounts are untrue then why hasn't the notoriously litigious Meghan sued them.....both books are by respected authors who have no reason to lie. I think they would have to have fairly robust sources to be able to publish these accounts. Its going to be interesting to see if more staff are able to come forward and speak up about the abuses they have experienced. If the staff have truly been abused then they have a right to come forward and a right to stand up for themselves because they are sick of seeing a pair of hypocrites paint themselves as perpetual victims when in reality they are a pair of unpleasant bullies.

thebabessavedme · 04/03/2021 09:34

I think they are all quite as awful as each other, their family story is like one of those 'Take a Break' features - toxic and classless the lot of them, dodgy people with dodgy friends, chuck in some adultery, dodgy financial deals and child molesters and all you need are some 'sad face' photos, oh yeah!, we have some of those just winging our way!

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Serenster · 04/03/2021 09:34

I find it hard to believe that the palace has allowed all sorts of things to be printed about MM, without saying a word, except 'no comment'. Now we are expected to believe they protected MM in this case. Why this case?

The palace press office printed nine separate denials of stories about the Sussexes in the press in their two years or so in the spotlight, and it was reported that they had discussions with her more than once about the fact that they couldn't go on the record denying something that was actually true. Amusingly though, one of the stories that they officially denied on the record late in 2019 was in that the couple was planning on moving to live in Canada in early 2020, so someone must have not been truthful with the press team about the couples' plan. Who could that have been?

wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 09:35

Believe me there are plenty more stories that have been covered up by the palace about these two and their atrocious behaviour! This one being being "leaked" is a warning shot from the palace. I cant see this ending up the way they think it will!

derxa · 04/03/2021 09:36

The so called victims have never said anything so far. Disgusting

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 04/03/2021 09:37

@TheKeatingFive

who in this story are the entirely uninterested (I think you mean disinterested by the way), impartial parties? I'd love to know

I’m not saying there is one, I’m saying he has motivation to shit stir in the media.

The version I read said that he had filed complaints on behalf of these staff members who never requested that and had them retracted.

I’ve already included a link about to the journalist behind The Times article who has categorically stated it’s not true the staff members asked to retract the claims.

I wonder why you are questioning the integrity of JK from an email written in 2018, so not even recent, and Rachel English etc who are talking about Meghan’s unacceptable behaviour and are believing someone who (as I also said before) a judge has said is a liar. This is why the MeToo movement got going once it started because all those women were silenced beforehand because of people like you, who intrinsically disbelieve those without power.

Serenster · 04/03/2021 09:37

The version I read said that he had filed complaints on behalf of these staff members who never requested that and had them retracted.

As someone posted above, the journalist has denied that the claims were retracted, and it doesn't make a difference, in any event. Anyone who witnesses bullying behaviour in the office, or has it reported to them, can (and should) complain. It's not like a crime where the victim can choose not to press charges. And once a complaint is made, the organisation should investigate it and deal with it appropriately.

wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 09:38

[quote MoChridhe]mobile.twitter.com/KateWilliamsme/status/1367259849327845385[/quote]
Ah but everyone knows what a complete Tosser PA is ( among other things Hmm). Megan and Harry are busy playing the victim and saying they have been bullied when nothing could be further from the truth!

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 04/03/2021 09:40

I find it hard to believe that the palace has allowed all sorts of things to be printed about MM, without saying a word, except 'no comment'. Now we are expected to believe they protected MM in this case. Why this case?

The Palace did defend her, on several occasions. They also were probably concerned with protecting their reputation and Harry, which protected her as well.

It’s not the Palace now releasing this. The Palace looks terrible in this as well for brushing bullying under the carpet and it being known that action wasn’t taken.

This is effectively a whistleblower. Someone who knows Harry and Meghan bullied and cannot stomach seeing them talking about mental health and how strongly against bullying they are.

Serenster · 04/03/2021 09:40

All the Prince Andrew stories are one reason why I think it's highly unlikely this came from the Palace - they will know very well of the risk that there's other damaging stuff under their carpets!

cyclingmad · 04/03/2021 09:42

@wewillmeetagain

Believe me there are plenty more stories that have been covered up by the palace about these two and their atrocious behaviour! This one being being "leaked" is a warning shot from the palace. I cant see this ending up the way they think it will!
Well do spill what these stories are then, you clearly know everything so let's hear it...
Samcro · 04/03/2021 09:44

It’s quite possible this will snowball and more people will come forward. In the meantime, H&M supporters can continue to effectively try to gaslight and silent those who have been bullied, which is a form of abuse.

surely other peoples accounts of bulling are not relevant, unless they were bullied by M?
I have been bullied in a work place. but that is not relevant.
trying to shut down people who have a different view by calling it abuse is just plain odd.

TheKeatingFive · 04/03/2021 09:44

And once a complaint is made, the organisation should investigate it and deal with it appropriately.

Absolutely. So if they were actually filed by staff members, then why didn’t the palace investigate them at the time?

Surely that’s a failing on them, regardless of Meghan’s role in any of this?

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 04/03/2021 09:45

@Serenster

All the Prince Andrew stories are one reason why I think it's highly unlikely this came from the Palace - they will know very well of the risk that there's other damaging stuff under their carpets!
Agreed. I think many of the royal family are and historically have been bullies towards their staff. However, just because someone in a family is a bully or does something wrong, it doesn’t exempt others from bad behaviour. It’s all wrong and all unacceptable. It’s quite right they are all called out for it.

Right now though, this thread is about Harry and Meghan being called out. The likelihood is that they have been called out because they are hypocritically claiming to be bullied and victims when others know that is not true or that they have demonstrated the same behaviour to others beneath them that they are complaining about receiving.

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 04/03/2021 09:45

@Samcro

It’s quite possible this will snowball and more people will come forward. In the meantime, H&M supporters can continue to effectively try to gaslight and silent those who have been bullied, which is a form of abuse.

surely other peoples accounts of bulling are not relevant, unless they were bullied by M?
I have been bullied in a work place. but that is not relevant.
trying to shut down people who have a different view by calling it abuse is just plain odd.

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ExtraordinaryQuince · 04/03/2021 09:51

@wewillmeetagain

Believe me there are plenty more stories that have been covered up by the palace about these two and their atrocious behaviour! This one being being "leaked" is a warning shot from the palace. I cant see this ending up the way they think it will!
@wewillmeetagain was it you who said your relatives work with the RF?
MissFlite · 04/03/2021 09:52

If you, by your own admission, have struggled with poor mental health since adolescence, or you have been the victim of almost unsurvivable trolling, why the actual fuck would you continue to deliberately behave in a way that you know will cause more media attention and gossip than anything In the past couple of years?
It must be exhausting to be constantly monitoring who said what to whom, who wrote what where and what are we going to do and say in response. Incredibly damaging to fragile mental health, surely.
Once the Oprah interview is done and the record is set straight Confused , then what? A life of quiet servitude and good works? Let's hope so!

Dongdingdong · 04/03/2021 09:53

Are Netflix really going to want two bullies (because Harry has also been blamed) working for them in the MeToo era? This contract could well be in doubt depending upon how this pans out.

Quite. You can’t really launch a brand based on changing the world one compassionate act at a time (or similar wording) whilst also being outed as a workplace bully. The two just aren’t compatible.

Of course, the bullying claims might be completely false and if they are, I presume we will know very soon as the Sussexes will quite rightly take legal action.

HoneyIShrunkMyAss · 04/03/2021 09:53

What I don’t understand about this pair is why they opted into the pomp and ceremony of a very expensive, tax payer funded, televised around the world Royal Wedding when they didn’t actually want to be part of ‘the Firm’? Why not bugger off to LA and have a private wedding there? I’m sure the press would have lost interest quite quickly.

I alway thought what happened with Meghan’s father was also very odd. Harry had never even met him before the wedding. Normal to meet the parents before or after you get engaged, no? Her father was also besieged by the press with zero support in how to handle his immediate ‘celebrity’. It’s not like he invited it into his life is it? Then the cutting off and refusal to let him meet his grandchild when by all accounts he was Meghan’s primary carer from her early teens and they were close. I’m sorry but if she treats her father like that, then I’m not surprised by the bullying claims.

wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 09:55

@cyclingmad I actually raised the subject of the way they treated staff on here last week. I was shouted down about it not being true! Now look whats come out of the woodwork Confused! I mean what sort of grown adult thinks that throwing a hot cup of tea at a member of staff is in any way acceptable? The couple's lawyers haven't even denied that the claims are true, they have just used a lot of fancy wording to skirt around it!

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 04/03/2021 09:56

@Dongdingdong

Are Netflix really going to want two bullies (because Harry has also been blamed) working for them in the MeToo era? This contract could well be in doubt depending upon how this pans out.

Quite. You can’t really launch a brand based on changing the world one compassionate act at a time (or similar wording) whilst also being outed as a workplace bully. The two just aren’t compatible.

Of course, the bullying claims might be completely false and if they are, I presume we will know very soon as the Sussexes will quite rightly take legal action.

They haven’t even denied the claims (just said they damage their reputation and sadden them) let alone suggested legal action, which you would have expected at the time The Times asked them for their statement considering their love of litigation.
wewillmeetagain · 04/03/2021 09:56

@ExtraordinaryQuince yes its me!

peepholepringle · 04/03/2021 09:59

I don't think any of us on here need to ponder the authenticity of these allegations.
In fact I'm surprised they've not already sued the news outlets that were reporting this years ago, which they would absolutely do if untrue, surely?