The latest royal family drama

[Kinsters]

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

IMO only a sociopath could see the horrendous living conditions in the slums of South Africa, and then use that publicity opportunity to complain about their own wealthy, pampered and privileged life.

^ This

@Samcro

the timing of these allegations is very suspect. obviously no one on here knows if they are true or not. but surely if there was any truth in it, the allegations would have been looked into at the time and if not, why not?

surely these allegations reflect very badly if true not only on Meghan but the royal family. it makes me wonder how badly royal family staff are treated.

I am guessing, but it's a reasonable guess, that the allegations went nowhere at the Palace at the time because they impacted upon actual members of the Royal Family, and all the power resided with them, as, pre MeToo, that is what generally happened when allegations were made against the powerful, no matter how credible they were. That's certainly been the story coming out from many organisations since.

I also find the timing very interesting, rather than suspect. Looking at the recent court case and now this, the information seems to be coming from the (former) palace staffers rather than the press office. In Meghan's litigation, four staff members approached ANL's lawyers to let it be known that that they could give evidence relevant to the allegations in dispute, and could be summonsed as witnesses should the case proceed (a witness summons will override an NDA). Now, a former staffer has approached a newspaper with evidence of complaints made by staff that were brushed under the carpet by the palace. This could count as a protected public interest disclosure (whistleblowing) which again will override and NDA. It sounds to me like various people who worked for the couple have got frustrated by only the couples' side of the story being told, and want to "speak their truth" too, so far as is legally possible. And I don't see why they shouldn't, to be perfectly honest.

@Loopyloututu2

My issue with H&M is that I want to be happy for them but they make it so difficult. When they upped and moved to the states and said they were bowing out of public life I thought “good for you”. But they can’t actually keep away from public life it seems and most of what they’re doing nowadays just comes across like desperate attention-seeking. Every time it goes a bit quiet they pop up with another interview/lecture. Surely they have enough money to just go and lead the private life they supposedly want? It’s like they can’t physically do it, and are drawn like moths to a flame to the media attention, without the self-awareness to realise how hypocritical it comes across to the public. Most people just really don’t care about them, wish them well and want them to bugger off never to be seen again!

Agree with you 100%.

I have to say I'm not surprised about these allegations. If either Meghan or Harry have been abusive towards staff then that needs to be dealt with appropriately. Lady Campbells book refers to an incident where Meghan is alleged to have thrown a cup of tea at someone in Australia and that someone was hastily paid £250,000 and it was hushed up. Presumably they would have signed a NDA. Tom Quinns book refers to Meghans awful attitude towards staff and her imperious behaviour. I'm seeing a clear pattern of incidents and behaviours which are not acceptable. As for Meghan and Harry remaining "much loved" members of the family, that won't be the case for long once they have spent two hours publically slagging off the family, the press and probably the British people. There is no way back from this.

I do wish they would bore off and embrace the privacy which they keep claiming to want instead of flaunting their dirty laundry all over the shop in a blatant bid for attention.

Why shouldn’t the Palace staff have a voice too?

So Meghan has called the Queen and family liars in the latest clip.

Can you imagine branding your MIL a liar on a tacky American talk show host? Embarrassing for anyone, but for a Royal?!

@TeaLibrary

I have to say I'm not surprised about these allegations. If either Meghan or Harry have been abusive towards staff then that needs to be dealt with appropriately. Lady Campbells book refers to an incident where Meghan is alleged to have thrown a cup of tea at someone in Australia and that someone was hastily paid £250,000 and it was hushed up. Presumably they would have signed a NDA. Tom Quinns book refers to Meghans awful attitude towards staff and her imperious behaviour. I'm seeing a clear pattern of incidents and behaviours which are not acceptable. As for Meghan and Harry remaining "much loved" members of the family, that won't be the case for long once they have spent two hours publically slagging off the family, the press and probably the British people. There is no way back from this.

So all speculations and no investigated/ confirmed facts?

When it comes to MM, people are ready to believe the worst. I wonder why?

@starfro

So Meghan has called the Queen and family liars in the latest clip.

Can you imagine branding your MIL a liar on a tacky American talk show host? Embarrassing for anyone, but for a Royal?!

Brilliant. Let the drama continue 😃

Innuendoes vs straight talk

RF will not come out looking good. Hopefully time for a republic

It’s just all so shabby and undignified. I just saw the latest clip and cringed so hard for Meghan. Whilst she appears very polished on the surface, she truly does lack class. But I’m not sure, in her pursuit of fame and adulation, she even cares which is fair enough I suppose

The journalist behind The Times interview is on record categorically denying that one of those JK mentioned in his email wanted to retract their claim, and he says he doesn’t know about the other one. As he says, why should Meghan silence them after bullying them.

Another journalist (Rachel English) has come forward saying she witnessed first hand Meghan turning on a member of her staff and hissing at her. Other journalists are now talking about how Meghan’s behaviour was an open secret.

It’s quite possible this will snowball and more people will come forward. In the meantime, H&M supporters can continue to effectively try to gaslight and silent those who have been bullied, which is a form of abuse.

Are Netflix really going to want two bullies (because Harry has also been blamed) working for them in the MeToo era? This contract could well be in doubt depending upon how this pans out.

When it comes to MM, people are ready to believe the worst. I wonder why? hmm

I know right? Can't qwhite put my finger on why.

I wonder why? hmm

I think it's how quickly the Sussexes turned away from the nation, after the huge welcome at the time of their wedding.

how quickly the Sussexes turned away from the nation

What specifically are you talking about?

I find it hard to believe that the palace has allowed all sorts of things to be printed about MM, without saying a word, except 'no comment'. Now we are expected to believe they protected MM in this case. Why this case?

The people who want to speak their truth can go ahead. The so called victims have never said anything so far.

I assume they will be recycling all their old stories until and after the interview. This is all recycled material, just made a bigger deal of now.

I don't think HMQE and the 'family' are actually the 'firm'. I think they are referring to the rather powerful staff.

What I don't understand is why then, rather than having a more private life, they're courting more publicity than ... well anyone. Weird. isn't it? their words don't match their actions, which appear motivated by chasing fame, money and public adoration. I didn't think thats what Harry is about but maybe he was all along. if I wanted to protect my family from the media, the last thing I'd do is move to batshit Lala land the biggest hub of celebrities in the world, sign deals with Netflix and Spotify, do a televised interview with Oprah, piss about on tv with Cordon and so on.

Nobody competitive enough to work in the tough world of hollyweird is anything like this vulnerable. I don't buy that angle. The RF are a hardy, outdoorsy lot, not the type to sit in a circle discussing feelings before a yoga session but this is Harry's entire family, what the hell is he thinking? M saying she's "lost so much" is so questionable, she isn't losing anything, she need never show her face to the family or even in this country again and in a couple of weeks all this will be chip wrappings. Its H who's going to be the loser here.

If I never heard another word about them again it wouldn’t bother me at all.

a snowballing number of people coming forward to say the opposite

Anyone actually on record though?

So far the only name associated with all this is Jason Knauf and as he’s now working for the Cambridge’s, he may not be an entirely uninterested, impartial party.

Oprah 'tacky'. Now I've heard it all.

I just can’t shake this feeling that she’s taken on the Diana ‘role’. This Oprah interview to me feels like a reenactment of the Panorama/Diana moment.

I don’t blame H&M for needing to escape the British press and the stifling institution surrounding the RF. I hope they’re happy and I hope their motivation for doing the interview was to clarify that they left the UK to raise their children away from press scrutiny. I suspect Harry feels some guilt around the decision due to ingrained duty.

So far the only name associated with all this is Jason Knauf and as he’s now working for the Cambridge’s, he may not be an entirely uninterested, impartial party.

Do tell, KeatingFive, who in this story are the entirely uninterested (I think you mean disinterested by the way), impartial parties? I'd love to know...

"When it comes to MM, people are ready to believe the worst. I wonder why?"*

Erm it most definitely must because they are horrible little racists! Couldn't possibly be because the claims are actually true and H and M are in fact a vile pair of spoilt brats!*

OMg I just watched that iTv video.

Ouchie. Wince.

who in this story are the entirely uninterested (I think you mean disinterested by the way), impartial parties? I'd love to know

I’m not saying there is one, I’m saying he has motivation to shit stir in the media.

The version I read said that he had filed complaints on behalf of these staff members who never requested that and had them retracted.