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The latest royal family drama

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Kinsters · 03/03/2021 05:52

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

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TheKeatingFive · 03/03/2021 22:22

Harry and Meghan haven’t had their HRH away, they’ve just agreed not to use them I understand

Okay cool. Has Harry complained about that?

Lampzade · 03/03/2021 22:49

@Mummy195

*Maybe if every poster here from now on could begin their post with a quick caveat - I too Believe Andrew Is A Dodgy Wanker before saying anything else about anybody else?

Then we can dispense with the BUT ANDREW posts.*

How about everyone writes about Andrew instead. Repeating over and over how disappointed they are in him, you know, just like they do with H&M. Come up with all sorts of convoluted reasons of why he did what he did.

Exactly
Dongdingdong · 03/03/2021 23:00

It's always her they go after isn't it, never Harry.

I think the bullying allegations mention Harry as well don’t they?

Whatever the truth, the timing couldn’t be worse as they prepare to launch their brand with the big interview on Oprah. Honestly if I were them I’d take my considerable fortune and just live a lovely quiet and very wealthy life. Why bother putting yourself through all this hassle when you don’t even need to?

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Dongdingdong · 03/03/2021 23:12

The only explanation is that they very much do want to stay in the limelight, but I don’t understand why.

TartanTexan · 03/03/2021 23:18

I don’t think they necessarily want publicity. They genuinely want to do good works but they don’t have the cash to live the life their status affords.

Dongdingdong · 03/03/2021 23:27

I don’t think they necessarily want publicity. They genuinely want to do good works but they don’t have the cash to live the life their status affords.

I still don’t get it. If they don’t want publicity then why do the celeb-style interviews with James Corden and Oprah?

If they really want to do good works then that is great and I applaud them, but why not simply do so quietly and behind the scenes, as I’m sure many wealthy philanthropists do? That way they could fulfil their desire to do good works but stay out of the public eye - win win.

And sure, not pursuing publicity and fame might mean they’re ultimately less well off, but they still have millions in the bank and could afford a fabulous lifestyle by most people’s standards without having to earn a penny ever again.

Dongdingdong · 03/03/2021 23:29

Is the reason they’re deliberately staying in the public eye to bring publicity to their chosen causes perhaps? Because that’s the only reason I can think of right now.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/03/2021 23:29

The palace has just bought into a world of pain though with their statement tonight though. Speaking as someone who was working somewhere that went through its own #metoo cultural crisis a few years ago, once you make it clear that people can speak up and will be taken seriously, an awful lot can come out of the woodwork. That's a high-risk strategy, at best...

I totally get the principle here, but can't help feeling the palace will only "take seriously" the things that suit

Also agree with whoever said it's obvious this has all been released because of Monday - but the RF play dirty, and those who hack off the big boys tend to get hurt.
Granted this would affect Harry less as an insider, but I'd have hoped he'd learn lessons from what was done to his mother if nothing else

PicsInRed · 03/03/2021 23:32

If they're to be free of The Crown's (William's) control, they need a lot of cash in order to pay a lifetime of high level security, 24/,7 for them and their kids. They're simply too high profile to go without.

That's why the Netflix deal. They needed serious cash if they could ever tell William to take his venal rumour leaking bullshit and shove it.

Good for them. I bet William's furious. Who will he blame and scapegoat now? Watch out Kate.

TartanTexan · 03/03/2021 23:33

@Dongdingdong not a lifestyle on a par with the Clooneys etc. They need to generate income to live an ultra, ultra high net worth life. These people are their social group.

TartanTexan · 03/03/2021 23:34

@PicsInRed, absolutely.

LucilleBluth · 03/03/2021 23:44
  • At the time officials had suggested that it was because it was humid and the crowd was oppressive in the market.

I was there at the time and witnessed Meghan turn and 'hiss' at a member of her entourage, clearly incandescent with rage about something, and demand to leave.

I later saw that same – female – highly distressed member of staff sitting in an official car, with tears running down her face. Our eyes met and she lowered hers, humiliation etched on her features.*

From a female Royal correspondent. How do the Meghan can do no wrong posters feel about her being a bully.

Her defenders are hilarious.

Wondermule · 04/03/2021 00:22

Anyone remember Jessica Mulroney the ex best friend? Wasn’t she exposed as a bully?

ajandjjmum · 04/03/2021 01:21

@Dongdingdong

Is the reason they’re deliberately staying in the public eye to bring publicity to their chosen causes perhaps? Because that’s the only reason I can think of right now.
Bit like their visit to South Africa to raise awareness of the poverty and struggles people had in their everyday lives.

Shame it was overtaken by an interview about what a tough time they were having. I mean, no-one asked if they were ok.

Kinsters · 04/03/2021 04:17

I'm glad there will be an investigation into the bullying allegations. I hope it will be fair and not just an excuse for more undignified mud slinging.

The royal family are our unelected heads of state and there are rules that they need to abide by. Harry clearly doesn't like these rules so he shouldn't be royal anymore ie no title, not in the line of succession.

Harry has all the constraints of being a senior royal like William ie he can't make money privately, maybe not much independence on what he can say/do. But he doesn't have the ultimate perk of being future King. Unfair? Maybe, but the whole concept of royalty is unfair.

Ps Andrew is clearly a twat. So is Boris.

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Kinsters · 04/03/2021 04:23

These Oprah teaser trailers are so dramatic. It's clear the interview is not going to be just a plug for their Spotify/Netflix/charity stuff. Anyone know when more Spotify podcasts are coming btw? Don't think there's been anything since the holiday special..

Oprah: How do you feel about the Palace hearing you speak your truth today?

Meghan: I don't know how they could expect that after all of this time we would still just be silent if there is an active role that The Firm is playing in perpetuating falsehoods about us. And, if that comes with risk of losing things, there is a lot that has been lost already.

Maybe it's just editing and it won't really be that juicy but I doubt it.

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StartupRepair · 04/03/2021 04:40

Once they have given this interview, what next? They really only have this one story to tell. Unless they do a follow up to address the bullying allegations...when does it end?

PurpleCrocuses · 04/03/2021 04:44

Meh, just another page from the RF smear campaign playbook.

Will and Kate's chief crony and Dan Wootton's best mate Jason Knauf earning his money again. Knuaf's job is to smear Meghan by any means necessary. That's why all the bullying allegations are coming second hand from him and not from the anonymous alleged "victims" (who reportedly asked Knauf to rescind the bullying allegations, as they were made without the "victims" knowledge).

I see no evidence of bullying except towards Meghan. The hoops posters are jumping through to make out perfectly normal behaviour all the royals do is "bullying"!

Whatever the nanny did to be sent packing in the middle of the night must be egregious, it's not bullying.

Meghan wasn't allowed to choose her own staff but had staff who were actively working against her and selling stories to the press about her forced upon her. Not just Jason but a certain infamous female PA who'd never even worked as a PA before yet somehow landed a top royal PA job! It's all corruption.

As for the royal reporter (a bigger pack of vicious racist trolls the world never saw), the worst thing she can say is that Meghan's staff permitted a heavily pregnant woman to be surrounded by a mob, and that Meghan once "hissed" (ie whispered) something at a staffer, and the staffer was later spotted crying. Is being "hissed" at really "bullying"? Maybe the staffer was crying because she fucked up, not because Meghan "hissed"? Is Meghan not supposed to even speak in case a white woman bursts into tears?

Remember when the press tried to pull the White Woman Tears card over the story that Meghan made Kate cry, then it turned out Kate had tried to bully a n American woman she'd never met before into forcing her young daughter Meghan's bridesmaid) to wear tights to Meghan's wedding, like it's remotely any of Kate's business what a bridesmaid wears to someone else's wedding. Then apparently Kate burst into tears because she didn't get her own way.

How many bullying allegations have there been against Kate over the years?b oHw many former pupils accused her of bullying them at school? Which of the York sisters was she accused of bullying? How many staffers have quit the Cambridge household? How many tabloid articles were published at the time claiming Kate was driving staff to quit in droves? Kate's been accused of bullying far more times than Meghan has!

It's also lovely to see all of Meghan and Harry's friends, employees and former work colleagues come out today to defend them against these preposterous allegations. Oh hold on, wait..
Um, actually many dozens of Meghan's old friends, former acting co-workers, and even random people who knew or worked with her briefly, have all defended her and praised her to the high heavens. Just because it's not reported in the Daily Mail doesn't mean they don't exist. I saw four tweets yesterday from people tweeting they'd been offered money by tabloids to lie about and slag Meghan off. One from actor Simon Rex who'd been offered money to lie about having slept with Meghan, and three from female psychologists tweeting that they'd been offered money to give a quote saying "I'm an expert in psychology and Meghan is clearly mentally ill and a narcissist." Apparently one tabloid has been DMing every female psychology professor they can find trying to find someone willing to take a bribe to "diagnose" Meghan as a narcissist.

habibihabibi · 04/03/2021 05:16

I wish H&M would sell what they own and live quietly off grid somewhere. Sack all the staff, pawn the jewellery and clothes and just leave the limelight that they find so difficult.They are annoying.

Kinsters · 04/03/2021 06:10

PurpleCrocuses Maybe Kate has been accused of bullying, nothing so concrete and specific has ever come to light though. There's a lot of apparentlys, allegedlys and reportedlys in your post. I guess we'll see the truth of the bullying allegations in due course. As other posters have said, the very litigious Sussexes will sue if the report is incorrect.

Heavily pregnant and surrounded by a mob? When did that happen?

habibihabibi they don't want privacy though. They want money, more money than they could have made as working royals and with fewer strings attached.

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Peaseblossom22 · 04/03/2021 06:20

I don’t think Catherine has ever been accused of bullying , and frankly suggesting the children wear tights because the wedding is in a royal chapel and because hard shoes rub without tights is hardly the crime of the century . She was also only a week after giving birth herself.,

Armi · 04/03/2021 06:25

@PurpleCrocuses Are you ok? You seem a bit....frazzled.

MyBonnyLiesOverTheOcean2020 · 04/03/2021 06:26

www.insider.com/queen-elizabeth-accepted-horses-dubai-emir-kidnapping-allegations-2021-3 Possibly worse behaviour than Meghan wearing earrings given to the RF by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a35708689/meghan-markle-saudi-crown-prince-earrings-drama-explained/

Anne1958 · 04/03/2021 06:26

It just gets worse everyday and one of these days Harry and Meghan will hopefully realise they cannot constantly deny everything negative that’s said about them. It’s just not possible for it to always someone else’s or The Firms doing.

I wish of would all just die a death and everyone could go on not washing their dirty linen in public.

Sometimes silence really is the best way of dealing with things.

MyBonnyLiesOverTheOcean2020 · 04/03/2021 06:38
Interesting body language here. Smile