The latest royal family drama

[Kinsters]

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

I would have a lot more respect for M&H if they had walked away, made some private dosh and led a US centric private life. Their behaviour however is arrogant and hypocritical.

I think they’ve massively pissed off the Queen and she’s going to let rip. If the Oprah interview is as bad as it’s suggested I think M&H’s time as royals is over. If anything happens to Prince Philip over the next week they will get a massive backlash.

I think they’ve done a really stupid thing. I am not a royalist but being disrespectful to a 90 year old loved queen whose reputation worldwide is unmet by anyone else is beyond crass.

ancientgran

I think the FBI would just appreciate a few hours of Andy's time, I doubt they give a crap about internal BuckPalace HR.

I know there was scandal about her having an affair with Nehru.

Louis Mountbatten is considered to have had a criminal interest in underage boys. Kids.

Everyone knew what Saville was up to. It was virtually an open secret. As if the royal family didn't know. As. If.

so when was the email written outlining Meghan's "bullying"? The guardian is reporting that it's going to be investigated. Great, you might think, the RF are finally looking out for their employees. Except - if they were looking out for their employees it would have been investigated back then and not well over a year later and strangely timed to coincide with the Oprah thing.

Again - i am not a monarchist and i wish they'd all push off. But the slow train-wreck of the downfall of the house of Windsor is fascinating to watch in real time.

@sitandwait

Wow at all the 'they should have followed proper procedures' minimising of bullying accusations. I'm sure all of us who were ever bullied at school or work went straight to the teacher or line manager and explained everything fearlessly, because that's how these things work, right? People are desperate to minimise this and making really quite disturbing points to do so, in the way that they have often accused posters who dislike Meghan of doing. Don't imagine it isn't obvious when remarks like 'Who even cares, most people aren't perfect' are made in relation to allegations of bullying.

Well said.

@sitandwait

Re the 'but Andrew' - why would two wrongs make a right? Why does the failure to see him legally dealt with make it ok to minimise bullying?

Because some people believe in attack being the best form of defence and are rapidly coming up with anything else to say.

Those who say anything remotely critical of Harry and Meghan are, almost without fail, accused of being racist, jealous, ignorant and Andrew! That’s the whole argument. 🤷🏻‍♀️

This doesn't help the royals either, whatever people are imagining. They look weak, neglectful as employers and complicit in covering up the alleged bullying.

You can see it as a media campaign, of course, but It's interesting that on the previous occasion when Harry and Meghan took issue with the Times, over their article about the conflict between the Netflix deal and Harry's Invictus commitments, he wanted them to take the article down and they refused. No formal legal action followed. I will wait with interest to see Meghan's categorical denial of this - being 'saddened' by it isn't quite the same - and also to see the legal action that will surely follow if they are challenging the veracity of the story. It's not like they're scared to take the press on in court.

@Brefugee

so when was the email written outlining Meghan's "bullying"? The guardian is reporting that it's going to be investigated. Great, you might think, the RF are finally looking out for their employees. Except - if they were looking out for their employees it would have been investigated back then and not well over a year later and strangely timed to coincide with the Oprah thing.

Again - i am not a monarchist and i wish they'd all push off. But the slow train-wreck of the downfall of the house of Windsor is fascinating to watch in real time.

Very well timed but also well timed with their formal departure from the royal family. Either could be the reason it’s coming out. If it’s the latter, then I expect there will be more to come.

@sitandwait

This doesn't help the royals either, whatever people are imagining. They look weak, neglectful as employers and complicit in covering up the alleged bullying.

You can see it as a media campaign, of course, but It's interesting that on the previous occasion when Harry and Meghan took issue with the Times, over their article about the conflict between the Netflix deal and Harry's Invictus commitments, he wanted them to take the article down and they refused. No formal legal action followed. I will wait with interest to see Meghan's categorical denial of this - being 'saddened' by it isn't quite the same - and also to see the legal action that will surely follow if they are challenging the veracity of the story. It's not like they're scared to take the press on in court.

She is fully aware of the accusation and has not denied it, at all. Likewise, the Palace hasn’t denied it’s been aware of the claims and of bullying, just that they are now investigating because it’s been in The Times.

Because they can't think of anything else to say. Same as Johnson, say anything about him and its "but Corbyn" as if that answers every quesiton.

Or because they're wittering on about this nonsense whilst protecting an actual alleged abuser of trafficked girls and member of an international rape gang. If it was a movie it was be rejected as "would never happen". It's completely absurd.

@PicsInRed

Because they can't think of anything else to say. Same as Johnson, say anything about him and its "but Corbyn" as if that answers every quesiton.

Or because they're wittering on about this nonsense whilst protecting an actual alleged abuser of trafficked girls and member of an international rape gang. If it was a movie it was be rejected as "would never happen". It's completely absurd.

The amazing thing is that they can say things about more than one person at a time. It’s incredible.

What an absolute god-awful mess - regardless of who's right or wrong I wonder how the hell it ever got to this and how on earth it'll end up

If the palace and the Establishment are shitting themselves this much, I makes me wonder just how "bad" this Oprah interview is going to be.

The BRF don't accept her

Where is the evidence of this?
How is your FIL, the next king of Britain, walking you down the aisle at your wedding, not accepting?

SunbathingDragon

sitandwait
Re the 'but Andrew' - why would two wrongs make a right? Why does the failure to see him legally dealt with make it ok to minimise bullying?
Because some people believe in attack being the best form of defence and are rapidly coming up with anything else to say.

Those who say anything remotely critical of Harry and Meghan are, almost without fail, accused of being racist, jealous, ignorant and Andrew! That’s the whole argument. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I agree ; it is tiresome .

@bushhbb where's your evidence of this? Charles even walked her down the isle.

@ShapeShiftedForThis x posted.

I think the point is that Meghan is being treated far more harshly than Prince Andrew, who is accused of crimes and has been in the company of a convicted sex offender

Bullying is a big deal, but it’s not the same as having sex with a minor. There just seems to be far more anger directed at Meghan, and that is odd. I doubt she’s the only pain in the arse that ever graced the Palace’s halls.

The slow train-wreck of the downfall of the house of Windsor is fascinating to watch in real time

It is indeed. I just wish it didn't have to be so thoroughly unpleasant, but I guess that's what you get when folk with money, arrogance and influence start to lose it completely

I recall someone saying that after 100 years the Hanoverians are on borrowed time, and they may well have been right

It would be unfair on victims of bullying if people were to say 'that's not important because we have a paedophile in the house'. It still is important. Andrew is being investigated - following complaints made about him by the girl(s) he is alleged to have abused. We all know that and support it. Which is why it's not comparable.

I do agree that BP should have investigated this when the complaint was actually made, so why didn't they? Was it because Harry asked them not to?

I don’t think the BRF can be trusted to be impartial in this matter. Indeed they are neglectful if they didn’t investigate when the ‘matter’ was raised.

Would you agree that the fair and impartial process would be to hand it over to a neutral third party, such as the body that investigated a Priti Patel?

And while they are at it, why not have all main RF members scrutinised to ensure they are meeting the code of conduct?

Agree with others that the timing of this is interesting, to say the least. I do wonder if this interview with Oprah has already been previewed by RF and perhaps this is a retaliation in some way. It is rather excruciating to watch this played out so publically.

@PicsInRed

If the palace and the Establishment are shitting themselves this much, I makes me wonder just how "bad" this Oprah interview is going to be.

Exactly I am even more curious now.

@PicsInRed

Because they can't think of anything else to say. Same as Johnson, say anything about him and its "but Corbyn" as if that answers every quesiton.

Or because they're wittering on about this nonsense whilst protecting an actual alleged abuser of trafficked girls and member of an international rape gang. If it was a movie it was be rejected as "would never happen". It's completely absurd.

What are they doing to protect him? He's had to step back from royal duties. Do you expect the Queen to barge the FBI out of the way and start her own investigation.

Who is doing the wittering? It seems H&M do alot of it and think it is unfair if anyone is able to answer back.

@JustSaying101

Agree with others that the timing of this is interesting, to say the least. I do wonder if this interview with Oprah has already been previewed by RF and perhaps this is a retaliation in some way. It is rather excruciating to watch this played out so publically.

Maybe it is because I was badly bullied at work that I see it rather differently. I left my job, did the people who were supposed to be bullied by MM do the same? I didn't want to go through a tribunal, I hadn't got it in me at that point. Five years on if my bully was complaining of being bullied and posting stuff about stopping bullying and being kind I think I would probably go public. The hypocrisy would make me want to bring it all out into the open.

I just don't understand why there is all this mud-slinging between them all. If this bullying thing is a calculated smear, why would they when they've not seen the Oprah thing yet. The Oprah thing could be perfectly nice, and just a bit of banging on about their good deeds to advertise their Netflix and Spotify stuff.