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Kinsters · 2021-03-03T05:52:49+00:00

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing! [[https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3]] The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen. It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have! I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

Lampzade · 03/03/2021 19:33

@OliverBabish

I think the point is that Meghan is being treated far more harshly than Prince Andrew, who is accused of crimes and has been in the company of a convicted sex offender

Bullying is a big deal, but it’s not the same as having sex with a minor. There just seems to be far more anger directed at Meghan, and that is odd. I doubt she’s the only pain in the arse that ever graced the Palace’s halls.

This is exactly my issue A man who was best buddies with a convicted sexual deviant is not getting as much heat as Meghan , despite the fact that he has been reluctant to assist the FBI with their investigations

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/03/2021 19:34

While they are at it, why not have all main RF members scrutinised to ensure they are meeting the code of conduct?

What, the actual family themselves??

I didn't think they had a code of conduct ... or at least not one that any normal person would recognise

TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 03/03/2021 19:34

@PicsInRed

If the palace and the Establishment are shitting themselves this much, I makes me wonder just how "bad" this Oprah interview is going to be.

It won’t be that bad for the royal family. If it is then Harry and Meghan have no further means to make money through interviews regarding the royal family, which is what they would make money from.

It is likely to be bad from Harry and Meghan’s point of view because history has shown us that senior royals trying to get their point across in a televised interview does not go well.

VinylDetective · 03/03/2021 19:35

because they're wittering on about this nonsense

More minimising workplace bullying. It’s almost as if you can’t be appalled by two things at the same time.

Lookingforwardto2021 · 03/03/2021 19:36

@ancientgran, why can’t the Rf have a parallel investigation into Prince Andrew? Most companies do that, they have an internal investigation if there is suspicion of misconduct.

And I think a PP also mentioned allegations of Prince Andrew abusing and allegedly bullying staff. Surely that should be investigated too?

ancientgran · 03/03/2021 19:37

@PicsInRed

ancientgran

I think the FBI would just appreciate a few hours of Andy's time, I doubt they give a crap about internal BuckPalace HR.

I know there was scandal about her having an affair with Nehru.

Louis Mountbatten is considered to have had a criminal interest in underage boys. Kids.

Everyone knew what Saville was up to. It was virtually an open secret. As if the royal family didn't know. As. If.

I'm sure the FBI can fly over if they want to. I'm sure they don't want the RF or their staff getting involved so a bit off for people to complain about that.

What does considered mean, is it like Cliff Richard when he was accused? Or is there anything other than gossip?

Everyone knew what Saville was up to? Even the hospitals that gave him access? Even the public who supported his fund raising? Of course everyone knows now and they all have perfect recall of what they "knew" back then.

Lampzade · 03/03/2021 19:37

@somethingonthecarpet

I just don't understand why there is all this mud-slinging between them all. If this bullying thing is a calculated smear, why would they when they've not seen the Oprah thing yet. The Oprah thing could be perfectly nice, and just a bit of banging on about their good deeds to advertise their Netflix and Spotify stuff.

We don’t even know what they are going to say. I would have thought that they would focus on their relationship, charity work and their issues with the toxic British press. I think that it is unlikely that they will reveal any major family secrets . It just seems that the ‘men in grey suits’ are already preempting some great revelation

SunbathingDragon · 03/03/2021 19:37

Also the palace don’t look good for this coming out either, so there is no reason to speculate or assume that the palace authorised it in the first place.

Genuinely disgruntled ex-employees can be very keen to seek revenge. If an ex-employee felt the palace didn’t support them and that Meghan bullied them, yet is now portraying herself as someone who abhors bullies and stands against them, that could be enough in itself to speak up now.

derxa · 03/03/2021 19:38

I think the point is that Meghan is being treated far more harshly than Prince Andrew, who is accused of crimes and has been in the company of a convicted sex offender We've always known that Andrew was a wrong'un The over indulged money grabbing corrupt and allegedly sex offending favourite son of the Queen. It's not a new story.
Now we have claims that Meghan bullied two women in the workplace. Are we supposed to ignore this? Do we not believe the women?

somethingonthecarpet · 03/03/2021 19:39

I will say this again - everybody IS outraged by Andrew, hence not much to debate. The reason we're wittering on about 'this nonsense' is because there are differing opinions.

May17th · 03/03/2021 19:40

I love Harry and Meg!

These interviews won’t do them any favours and tbh I don’t think they should be doing Oprah..... they are disliked enough. They are not going to win the public over. They need to stay out of the lime light because now look what is being said... it’s endless. I can’t imagine how draining it is for them both.

ancientgran · 03/03/2021 19:41

[quote Lookingforwardto2021]@ancientgran, why can’t the Rf have a parallel investigation into Prince Andrew? Most companies do that, they have an internal investigation if there is suspicion of misconduct.

And I think a PP also mentioned allegations of Prince Andrew abusing and allegedly bullying staff. Surely that should be investigated too?[/quote]
Because law enforcement really don't like you doing that, it can seriously muddy the waters. DH was a senior detective in a big force, they really discourage other people getting involved. Once the case is over it is a different matter. That is normally when internal investigations happen, for one thing their is a different level of proof needed.

If there have been allegations of him bullying then of course that should be investigated. Bullying is all too frequently dismissed and by it's nature it is normally someone in a senior/powerful position doing it.

ExtraordinaryQuince · 03/03/2021 19:42

With all this tension they are creating for their child the same level of trauma Harry grew up in. Not a great deal of brain engagement going on here.

Peaseblossom22 · 03/03/2021 19:42

I can’t imagine how draining it is for them both.•

Why are they doing it then?

isitspringyet · 03/03/2021 19:44

Not sure the Oprah interview was done with the U.K. market in mind tho.. it’s to win over the US.

ancientgran · 03/03/2021 19:44

@SunbathingDragon

Also the palace don’t look good for this coming out either, so there is no reason to speculate or assume that the palace authorised it in the first place.

Genuinely disgruntled ex-employees can be very keen to seek revenge. If an ex-employee felt the palace didn’t support them and that Meghan bullied them, yet is now portraying herself as someone who abhors bullies and stands against them, that could be enough in itself to speak up now.

Absolutely. I'd be very inclined to do it to my bully. I do know something she's up to at the moment, ex colleague told me, and I have considered an anonymous tip off. I won't do it, she's got kids and I don't want to disrupt their lives but it is tempting.

PicsInRed · 03/03/2021 19:45

The Oprah thing could be perfectly nice, and just a bit of banging on about their good deeds to advertise their Netflix and Spotify stuff.

That would be so awkward.

BuckPalace @ 10pm GMT: 😦😱😳 crickets

Would pay to see 🤣

ancientgran · 03/03/2021 19:45

@ExtraordinaryQuince

With all this tension they are creating for their child the same level of trauma Harry grew up in. Not a great deal of brain engagement going on here.

I hadn't thought of it like that but you are right.

Lookingforwardto2021 · 03/03/2021 19:46

@ancientgran, every company does this, it is a necessary aspect of protecting their own reputation. The proof of meeting a professional code of conduct is different than a law enforcement one.

It would be foolish for there not be an ethics committee looking into PA’s behaviour in light of the allegations.

And a previous poster linked to reports of poor treatment of staff by the Queen and PA. would you agree that they should be subject to investigation?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/03/2021 19:47

If this bullying thing is a calculated smear, why would they when they've not seen the Oprah thing yet

Despite its billing I'm not really expecting the interview to be much more than whining, and any palace irritation could possibly arise from the fact they've done it at all

However I wouldn't want to assume that Buck House haven't seen it ... not with the contacts all that money buys

GreenSlide · 03/03/2021 19:47

@ExtraordinaryQuince

With all this tension they are creating for their child the same level of trauma Harry grew up in. Not a great deal of brain engagement going on here.

I was thinking that earlier. Harry is supposed to want to protect Meghan from what his mum went through but provoking the media and alienating themselves from the RF is only having the same effect.

Storingeggs · 03/03/2021 19:49

Attempting to smear Meghan by accusing her of bullying when we all watched Meghan being torn apart daily by the media and anyone else who felt like it is really a case of transference. Meghan was horrifically bullied and Harry was probably right to remove her from that pressure. Regardless of whether they are privileged or not, that was not enjoyable to watch every day and nobody deserves to go through that level of hate because they married someone. I do think sometimes the least said, soonest mended.

Lampzade · 03/03/2021 19:50

@Storingeggs

Attempting to smear Meghan by accusing her of bullying when we all watched Meghan being torn apart daily by the media and anyone else who felt like it is really a case of transference. Meghan was horrifically bullied and Harry was probably right to remove her from that pressure. Regardless of whether they are privileged or not, that was not enjoyable to watch every day and nobody deserves to go through that level of hate because they married someone. I do think sometimes the least said, soonest mended.

This

Storingeggs · 03/03/2021 19:51

I think there are two issues here as well - the media’s treatment of them being one, the RF being another.

Lookingforwardto2021 · 03/03/2021 19:52

If i was Ph and MM, I would laugh and ask for more transparency and investigation and accountability. Oh, I’m being accused of bullying, let’s have a proper ethics committee or even an employment tribunal investigation! Oh, questions about our finances? We encourage transparency, investigations and FOI for the RF finances! That would send the RF scurrying 😃

The whole I’m a victim bit can be a bit tiresome.

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