The latest royal family drama

[Kinsters]

It's like a TV show. How embarrassing!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

The latest is that Meghan is accused of bullying staff. Harry and Meghan then responded that Buckingham Palace was using the Times to peddle false stories/a smear campaign. So presumably the "leak" comes from Buckingham Palace/the Queen.

It's all so childish. Why can't they all just be grateful for the extremely cushy life that they have!

I'll be watching the Oprah interview. I think the royals never come across well in these kind of things. Like Andrew's awful interview...he's just so out of touch with reality. And I think that's a characteristic that Harry unfortunately shares with him.

@Roussette

Oh please your flippin' self. I've taken the time to explain.

Obviously not good enough for you.

It is good enough for me. Stop being so touchy. Fuck the internet, it doesn’t allow for any bloody humour at all.

After I explained, there really was no need to come back and say it was in the derogatory ilk, was there?
I'm all for humour honest I am! Agree on fuck the internet

I think the RF needs to be MUCH more transparent about their financial situation. Rather than vague heresay, let the accounts for the Duchy be open to public scrutiny, along with all the rest of their finances. They are supposed to be there to provide a service to the public. We ought to be able to see where our taxes go.
There has never been an official statement put out to say Charles is no longer supporting M and H at all, or that they paid off the refurbishments to Frogmore from personal funds. It is all left deliberately murky.
I am sure if they were completely self financing, they would have made no bones about saying so.

@Roussette

After I explained, there really was no need to come back and say it was in the derogatory ilk, was there? I'm all for humour honest I am! Agree on fuck the internet

Truce? Because I really wasn’t trying to be awkward any more than you were. It all got a bit lost in translation.

@Lookingforwardto2021

“Kate has never proclaimed to be a feminist or a promoter of social equality as far as I am aware. I accept she may have been hypocritical in other ways though”

I don’t get it. So it is better to be misogynistic through and through, rather than be a feminist who sometimes falls short?

You think Kate is a misogynist? Why exactly?

H&M did put out a statement saying they were self funding.

VinylDetective

The bullying allegations are not new but that makes them no less relevant.

A succession of staff do not leave the employ of the RF without there being a reason.

Rousette, you said on a recent thread on all this that you defend Meghan because you hate bullying. I am surprised then to see you willing to minimise bullying when it's attributed to Meghan.

Also, you don't trust any of the British press, including a Times article with names and references to specific emails that they've seen, but you do trust a random Twitter video? Did no one see the tweets yesterday about the deepfake videos of Tom Cruise that have been created? Entirely convincing, but not him at all. If you're determined to be sceptical about sources, be consistent.

Was it in the same ilk at 'preaching', tone-deaf', 'woke' etc. ?

Preaching, tone-deaf and woke all mean different things so by definition can’t be the same ilk.

Roussette 🍸

sitandwait could you tell me where I've minimised bullying? I've made very little commnt on the article.

You seem to be minimising it, to me, because you don't believe or take these allegations seriously. You think the royals or the Times have made it up. That there's no way Meghan could be a bully. Please say if any of the above is not the case.

Which random Twitter video... I'm getting a bit confuzzled here.

If you mean the twitter link I did, it is actually recorded footage of someone so I'm not sure what you mean, it's impossible for a recording of a talk to be fake surely, there's lots in the audience and it's a recorded interview

I think it’s likely that Meghan did have disagreements with staff. You’ve got a woman who has been independent in every way joining an institution that does not allow for independence of any sort (not a criticism, it’s just how it is). The RF are rigid and I imagine things got tense in both directions, between Meghan and the staff. It happens.

I think what totally debases the ability for PR-minded readers to take the report as gospel is that it the earrings and Khashoggi got brought into it too. It just smacks of throwing shit to see what sticks.

I will repeat, I have said barely nothing on it. Are you confusing me with someone else?
I just think the timing is a bit fortuitous and there is a lot of 'a source says' which is always picked up on, on MN.

It will be interesting to see what happens as a result of the bullying allegations. It will be very hard for Harry and Meghan to continue with the narrative of being bullied out whilst being accused of some really unpleasant bullying themselves. It also has the possibility for companies to want to disassociate from them (this could impact their Netflix contract). So presumably they will want to clear their name which will mean, considering their past history, the likelihood of legal action. I can’t see this playing out nicely in court for either side and if proven true (after all, look at how trying to prove he wasn’t a wife beater on a technicality worked for Johnny Depp’s and Amber Heard’s reputations) it means the Palace doesn’t look after their employees either.

It is like a TV show, OP. Jeremy Kyle, to be precise. Bunch of idle scroungers living off the taxpayer, popping out kids, pervy bloke shagging trafficked girls , feuding siblings, the SIL who takes to the equivalent of Facebook to publicly slag off the in-laws. They're no better than any of the people that have appeared on JK. Actually, they're worse, as they're educated and privileged enough not to have an excuse.

May I just add, no one should ever dismiss allegations of bullying. It’s a bit no smoke without fire even if the victims don’t get justice.

@Janegrey333

May I just add, no one should ever dismiss allegations of bullying. It’s a bit no smoke without fire even if the victims don’t get justice.

Especially when those accused are in a position of power above you. To be bullied out of a job is awful; it’s effectively what Meghan claimed happened to her, yet what she is now accused of doing to staff. The difference is that Meghan had money and the ability to move elsewhere to thrive, whereas the staff possibly left to go into poverty if they didn’t have another job to cover their bills. It’s a huge and disproportionate power balance.

@Janegrey333

May I just add, no one should ever dismiss allegations of bullying. It’s a bit no smoke without fire even if the victims don’t get justice.

The supposed victim knew nothing about this allegations, and when she found out, she told them to stop.

The court is the court, no amount of NDA will stop you suing someone who harasses you, rapes you, or do anything of the sort to you. NDAs are there to stop tittle tattle, but no one is above the law.

The supposed victim knew nothing about this allegations, and when she found out, she told them to stop

It’s not just one.

Who are they?

Because this morning it was reported that the victim knew nothing about this.