Harry and Meghan are expecting their second child

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Wishing them all the best

Exactly minou.

They all do it and often in a far more tacky way than M&H.
Here's a still from the milk ad.
Tacky.

Where's Jeremy Kyle now he's needed? Bring on William and Katherine: The Interview.

Anyone trading on their royal connections by giving interviews is tacky. Whoever they are. I give a (small) pass to the Tindalls as they have both achieved in their sporting fields.

Interesting post Rose

Harry and Meghan are so divisive its is interesting. They seem to have an enormous amount of detractors who almost obsessively follow their every move looking for angles to criticise. Then they have a similar amount of almost obsessive followers - who fawn over every move and shut down almost any criticism.

They don't help themselves. It would have been very easy for them to live a quiet low profile life if that is really what they wanted. Other huge stars seem to manage this. Harry was managing this to a large degree before Meghan came along. As an adult, the only press he really received was to cover his royal work. The odd story about a girlfriend here and there but nothing really negative.

It can't be just to earn a living, the vast majority of the population manage this without needing a PR team.

Love them or loathe them - they clearly want to be in the spotlight for some reason. Why else agree to an Oprah 90 minute interview. They must know that this will generate huge amounts of click bait in the aftermath. It will be analysed and picked apart. So why do it?

Is it different though for the milk as guy and the tindalls as they aren't HRH? I think that is the big diff for me, Harry and Megan seem to want all the benefits of the status with non of the cutting ribbons in a hospital in Cheshire. Best of both worlds with none of the downsides which will never go down well here.

I wonder how this interview with Oprah will pan out?

Then they have a similar amount of almost obsessive followers - who fawn over every move and shut down almost any criticism

But this is where you are wrong. Yes, there are the obsessive followers out there like with any famous person. And maybe you would think I fawn all over them. I don't.

Bottom line for me. I think they are bullied mercilessly. They are held up to impossible standards that other Royals aren't. That's why I defend them. Because of injustice and bullying that I think is very unfair.

There's lots they do wrong but they aren't the spawn of the devil that certain people like to make out.

SleepingStandingup What nonsense. There's so much about your post that is batshit. It is out there in the Press that the RF knew about the pregnancy in advance. Are you saying that even though they'd had a miscarriage, they have to tell everyone when you the public want, and how do you know what Harry thinks 🤣
It's posts like yours that give the detractors a very bad name and that's saying something!

I totally understand why Meghan and Harry want to be in the spotlight on their own terms..

To control the narrative about their own private lives which are being invaded and scrutinised. Yea, that’s usually the best strategy for defending yourselves against those that try to take minor details from your personal life in order to create a narrative based on speculations and the media has been profiting from that and the public were enabling all the racist agenda..

So I applaud them for contorlling the narrative through measured appearances in the media and interviews.

Talking about things they’re totally entitled to talk about as it’s their own personal life and if they don’t someone else will and they will give it a nasty twist.

I think Harry is pretty lucky his wife is aware of how to use Hollywood to her advanatge.

Whether we like it or not, she is pretty well equipped to defend herself as she is being put in a position of constant violations and scrutiny.

So living a life with low profile simply means accepting to be isolated enough to be vulnerable for the next nasty media attack.. well done to Meghan for being proactive.

Setting boundaries about ones privacy does not mean they don’t want some attention. It means they only want the type of attention that is healthy for their family and personal life..

And whoever has been overly invested in scrutanising their personal life seem to give the impression that they’re interested in their relationship and it’s dynamics.. which was the entire nation to be fair.. being all nosy..

So why not wanting to see their actual side of the story about THEIR personal life?!

It’s funny to suddenly become uninterested in their personal lives when the people narrating it are the actual people that know it.

Reminds me when my mother in law was telling the planet that I was lying about my ethnic background because I was ashamed of who I really was. Stayed like that for 6 years. Seems petty but I didn’t like being made out to be someone who has anything to be ashamed of.

So when I did my dna test (for another reason), I made sure she was there and everyone else who was entertaining her... and I announced my results in a very matter of fact way, neutral. “Oh guess what everyone, it turns out I’m not actually from that place that mother in law has been saying. I don’t even know why she is saying that”.

Mother in law seemed to think that it’s not important and that I was wasting everyone’s time with sharing my percentages.

Well, Ofcourse it is a waste of time. Ofcourse no one should be interested in my percentage heritage because it doesn’t matter..

What matters though, is for everyone to learn that my mother in law has issues and that her logic is far from the truth.

Because maybe, just maybe, those applauding her might develop some critical judgement of their own and stop being so deluded.. about the things that actually DO matter.

Filtering out the bullies so that they are discredited from spamming your narrative is actually quite a good strategy against rumour spreading I believe.

Well done to strong Meghan!

We also know that narcissistic abuse happens because the perpetrator has completely manipulated reality for the victims support network and developed a framework in which that victim is totally isolated and vulnerable to being discredited whenever they plan to reach out for help or when they refuse any violations against their own private lives..

So I think in fact it would be pretty weak to duck down and live a quiet life when someone malicious and toxic has public influence over the narrative of your own personal life.

There is her family who have been used by the media to endorse a specific narrative... there is the British public. There is her in laws.. there is always ways to find someone to support your narrative even if it’s made up.

Meghan is speaking up for herself.. making it known to the world who she really is.. so that the world can be slightly less available for lending an ear to smear campaigns.

I frankly think those who want her to remain quiet are those who want her to make herself available for violations.

How dare she not accept being violated? She needs to pay for every penny she married into with her dignity.

The misogyny. Is dis-gus-ting.

@Roussette no I'm saying they can't bloody win. If they put it out on the press people would slag them off. If they kept it secret and just announced on IG people would slag them off. Of they managed for no one to find out and announced the birth people would slag them off. If she gave birth and recieved a vision on how to cure world hunger, cancer and Covid, people would slag them off

And frankly at this stage, sorry if this hurts someone’s fragile ego, but I think at this stage actually Meghan is not seeking to please the British public. She probably is well aware she is going to piss people off with her public appearances..

She sounds like she frankly doesn’t care! And I know this is hard to get to grasp with because somehow she is meant to be getting the approvals of the public..

I think she is smart enough and realised people will be upset anyway, unless she deletes her individuality and prostrates in worship..

And I think she had two choices to make : either be scrutinised while still not protecting her personal life and wasting her energy trying to toe the line to people who don’t even know what they want.. OR stop caring about peoples opinions and put herself first.

But how DARE she put herself snd her child first! She is a woman !!

How dare Harry allow her to put herself first and back her up when she is protecting her mental health?!! He should be the man and lead the way and she should shut up and put up.. that’s what woman do?!

Misogynist much ?

@Roussette it seems multitasking isn't my forte. That wasn't an expression of my opinion. It was in response to a comment about her being slagged off regardless and Harry only really being mentioned in context of being a victim, which is ridiculous, and that even if she HADNT told people, SHE would still get berated and he'd still get the poor Harry crap.

Sorry.

My personal opinion is they wanted a baby, hopefully everything will go great, yay them.

you could turn it on its head and say shy did Eugenie announce her birth and upstage them!! after all she is a minor royal.

But no, Eugenie is the original royal. Meghan is the outsider intruder. And Harry, even though he is a main royal, but this isn’t about him.. we must pit the woman against each other because it’s more dramatic and fun that way..

The women, must always always think of everyone else before themselves. Even when pregnant.

Harry is allowed to be focused on himself snd miss out those minor details.. he is a man. Men have a short Y chromosome so have less social abilities than the gigantic X.

Women, however, they totally totally have an X. That extra bit was designed to do all the social planning. All the carrying of the baby. All the biology of hormones and womb. It also tells them to shut up and put up. It also tells them how they should live their lives in every minute of the day.

But men don’t have that extra bit. So they’re fine to have their mistakes tolerated. Their social judgement isn’t capable of thinkng of those complicated issues and so they are allowed to live their lives.

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Sleeping Totally agree!

LetMeBubble great posts.

The easiest way for them to stop the incessant public and press scrutiny would be to become boring. Become beige. This would be easy to achieve if that is what they actually wanted.

This is really what the rest of the royals do. Major stars manage it. If you look at someone like Julia Roberts, they are barely in the press and if they are they never respond to it. Nicole Kidman is another example.

For some reason this is not what the Sussexes want. I think there is a lot of the 'Diana' about it - a need to be publicly adored and admired but then an inability to cope with the other side of that coin. Because there is always the other side to that coin. That is just life.

A much smaller scale of this is what happens to reality TV stars. They have a hunger to be famous, to be talked about and to be publicly popular. But there is a dark side to that which they cannot avoid. Most people just don't have that need (would actively avoid it).

Well I think they ALL overshadowed Zara's baby news. Eugenie shouldn't have announced her birth and Meghan shouldn't have announced her pregnancy until Zara has her baby. So there.

This is spot on
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@SleepingStandingUp

Well I think they ALL overshadowed Zara's baby news. Eugenie shouldn't have announced her birth and Meghan shouldn't have announced her pregnancy until Zara has her baby. So there.

lol

@SageandBlackPepper

The easiest way for them to stop the incessant public and press scrutiny would be to become boring. Become beige. This would be easy to achieve if that is what they actually wanted.

This is really what the rest of the royals do. Major stars manage it. If you look at someone like Julia Roberts, they are barely in the press and if they are they never respond to it. Nicole Kidman is another example.

For some reason this is not what the Sussexes want. I think there is a lot of the 'Diana' about it - a need to be publicly adored and admired but then an inability to cope with the other side of that coin. Because there is always the other side to that coin. That is just life.

A much smaller scale of this is what happens to reality TV stars. They have a hunger to be famous, to be talked about and to be publicly popular. But there is a dark side to that which they cannot avoid. Most people just don't have that need (would actively avoid it).

I completely agree with this. Great summary.

Actually didn't Zara announce her pregnancy less than 2 weeks after Meghan spoke about her miscarriage? If we're going to be suggesting waiting to share news...

Do they really need to do an interview? The idea of Fergie giving one was cringeworthy enough. IIRC it was more of a cathartic experience for Fergie as well as she was going through troubled times. What can M and H offer except to spill the beans?

Oprah is obviously just all for the money, same with Netflix. No other reason. They are protecting their finance future and I don’t blame them.

What I don’t understand is hiding behind charity when really they’re just out to make money. It’s just all a bit false although they may proof everyone wrong.

I hope they can make up with the RF privately, as it’s just really sad for Harry and the children not knowing their cousins. I’m sure after this interview that bridge will be completely burned though.