Lisa Montgomery executed

[PegasusReturns]

Lisa Montgomery was executed yesterday - I don’t know how this amounts to justice in 2021. What an appalling tragedy her life and death was.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55642177

wow, was she finally sent to the chair on Trump's orders? That doesn't seem right.

Horrible. When I went to bed yesterday she had been granted a stay of execution. I wasn't aware they could overturn it that rapidly.

This lady's life was a real lesson in knowing the full story - I read the headline and one-paragraph summary and thought "wow that evil woman to do such a thing - maybe she deserves it". Then read the full article about her life, with the bits by her sister, and just felt so so sorry for her, she was literally failed by every single person who should have cared for her. It's hardly surprising she was so messed up.

This is why I'm against the death penalty. Because people like this lady, who should have been in a secure psychiatric ward somewhere, slip through the net.

Well its done and dusted now. She has been hanging around on death row for way too long. As people have said, in uk she would have been put in a secure psychiatric unit with a long term view of treatment and rehabilitation.

Unfortunately for her, she committed her crime in the USA. In the USA whilst they are clearly cognisant of mental health issues and how life experiences can taint and affect peoples behaviours, they also have a strong influence of justice and closure.

What justice would there be for the victim? What about the child who was cut from her mothers body? Her trauma lives on. Shes alive and 16 years old now. God only knows how it has affected her.

Closure- one of the victims is still alive. How would it affect her knowing her mothers killer is still alive?

What is the point of being alive in a psychiatric prison until you die?

I read that poor woman's story and was utterly heartbroken for her over it.
I do not see how none of that came out in her case initially - she was seriously traumatised.

I do not agree with her being put to death, but I do feel that it might have been a release for her from what can't have been any kind of life, really. Poor, poor woman.

The crime she committed was truly awful.
I do not agree with the death penalty for any crime but I think in this case like many others, death was probably a relief to her, rather than a punishment - what a life she had.

I was horrified to see this in the news this morning. What she did was utterly abhorrent and there is absolutely no question in my mind that she should have been removed from society. But from what I read of her life story, I can't imagine anyone living through her experiences and coming out sane. She should have been committed to a secure psychiatric facility and given whatever treatment could be given. At the very least she should have been placed somewhere she could be treated with basic humanity, even if she never saw freedom again as a result of her actions. To execute her is a nasty stain on the character of the us. I wonder, if Ruth Bader Ginsburg had still been alive, whether the Supreme Court would have ruled the way it did.

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/12/lisa-montgomery-first-us-execution-female-inmate-67-years-halted/6635530002/

I would also add that i fail to understand the discrimination surrounding this case with regard to her gender. It is of no consequence. A crime is a crime.

Yes, Trumps orders, then the execution stopped by a judge a couple of days ago due to lifelong mental issues to allow her lawyers to present more evidence.

Judge decision over turned in record time and before further documentation was due to be provided. This is Trump killing just because he says so and to gain the favour of the blood thirsty idiots he is leading.

There is an article about her in the Guardian this week. I read it not knowing what I was letting myself in for , and couldn't believe how appalling her life was from start to finish. Her awful, abusive life was flagged up before the authorities - including Judges - but nothing was ever done.

I'm no psychiatrist but I think she was desperate to get hold of a baby she could love because nobody had ever loved her. What a terrible tragic waste.

Trump is vile.

@Arnoldthecat

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/12/lisa-montgomery-first-us-execution-female-inmate-67-years-halted/6635530002/

I would also add that i fail to understand the discrimination surrounding this case with regard to her gender. It is of no consequence. A crime is a crime.

What discrimination?

It's obviously highly unusual for women to be executed in the US, and the headline points out an unusual event. Don't see how that is discrimination, just journalism.

How utterly depressing. I hope there are kinder years ahead because the USA is going to lose its status as a world leading nation if it commits human rights atrocities like this.

I'm shocked by this last minute rush to kill a very damaged woman. Nobody would question how brutal her crime was, but what kind of baying, salivating wolves would push her execution through in the name of political point scoring?

I have never understood how murder suddenly becomes 'right' because it is carried out by the state. It's hard to believe that this hypocritically barbaric practice still exists in the modern world.

It's all so awful. Yes her crime was shocking but Trump didn't need to do this.

What gets me is you have people clamouring for the death penalty and so often they're the same people against abortion saying all lives matter. Don't they get the hypocrisy?

I'm no psychiatrist but I think she was desperate to get hold of a baby she could love because nobody had ever loved her. What a terrible tragic waste.

I'm not sure it's the case that she had nobody to love or had loved her. She had 4 existing children.

I wish Pence had invoked the 25th last week.

Do you feel this way when men are executed in the US? Similar situations with men on death row

@IEat

Do you feel this way when men are executed in the US? Similar situations with men on death row

Yes. I feel exactly the same way. It is abhorrent.

@IEat

Do you feel this way when men are executed in the US? Similar situations with men on death row

Yes. The death penalty is wrong, but I do find her story particularly shocking, there were so many opportunities to intervene and protect her and maybe prevent her later actions, but she (and therefore her victims) were massively let down.

Such a sad case from start to finish, Lisa was let down her entire life, the jury never heard about the abuse she had suffered.

No one should ever be executed.

@IEat

Do you feel this way when men are executed in the US? Similar situations with men on death row

Yes, I don't agree with the death penalty.

And if you're talking about a man who was subjected to years long sexual abuse as a child, and severe mental illness as an adult, then HELL YEAH, I think it's even more atrocious.

@IEat

Do you feel this way when men are executed in the US? Similar situations with men on death row

Yes. The death penalty is not justice, it is state sanctioned murder. This particular execution is getting more media attention than previous ones due to her sex, and the extreme nature of the abuse she suffered before committing a heinous crime.

Shame on America for going along with this.

Trump is a murderer.

And "closure" after trauma is a mirage. Court proceedings provide a temporary sense of meaning and purpose that makes it feel that the outcome will provide closure and healing, except there is no sentence that can do that and people instead find themselves feeling empty and broken all over again and without the purpose getting through all the court proceedings gave them.

Let alone waking up to know the same grief and pain has been inflicted on another family whose loved one has been murdered in your loved one's name.

That helps nobody.