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... whilst waiting to see if the kids are or are not going to school next week and walking with imaginary cows.

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Best of luck to your mum tomorrow Tabby and also for you as well. It's not easy being around someone with lots of anxiety and having to reassure them. I hope everything goes well

but today there were long queues of frail 80+ year olds standing in the rain down the street

I said this would happen That they would be expected to do that.

@TabbyStar

I've got to take my DM for the vaccine tomorrow but today there were long queues of frail 80+ year olds standing in the rain down the street. They're is a tiny car park with not enough space at three best of times. I'm dreading it. My DM gets massively anxious about all this sort of stuff.

Where is the common sense?!

What's the point of vaccinating people against covid if in the process you give them a fatal chill? I hope none of them had mobility issues or arthritis but I highly doubt it.

My son has bought home a certificate for 'improved attendance' today (secondary school). I asked him if the entire class had received one, after all they are attending a lot more than in the summer term. He said no. I can only assume it is because he was eligible to attend key worker school 5 days per week but we only sent him in 3 days per week so in the system he was showing as unauthorised absence.
DP and I have agreed that we will not give permission for the mass testing in January. If you are in the UsforThem FB group, someone has posted the Telegraph article on the subject in full. (Behind a paywall).

Anyone see newsnight last night a headteacher was heading for a meltdown they cut her off I really felt for her. The journo withering on about covid when she had been in a Santa suit all day entertainingly children who've had a shit term.

Bloody autocorrect

Someone asked earlier about infection control nurses. We have several in our community trust. They really have their work cut out right now. As well as advising staff & keeping on top of rapidly changing guidance, they have been training staff in care homes, sorting out our PPE requirements, keeping tabs on where the outbreaks are etc etc etc. I've not done them justice here- they do much more than this, it must be a nightmare for them. And they are all lovely.

DH is on his work Christmas Do via Teams. I'm in the same room. It's like listening to very boring radio 4 documentary about a bunch of people talking. At one point DH logged out because they were all droning on about covid. The DCs overheard & said, "That's not a party, it sounds depressing." He logged back in. There is now one woman getting quite drunk, in danger of slagging other people off. DH has switched them off & started doing some ironing.

@TabbyStar

I've got to take my DM for the vaccine tomorrow but today there were long queues of frail 80+ year olds standing in the rain down the street. They're is a tiny car park with not enough space at three best of times. I'm dreading it. My DM gets massively anxious about all this sort of stuff.

Do you have any kind of folding chair you can take with you so at least she can sit if there's a queue?

Hardly ideal but I've found one very useful when having to wait with frail older people in the past. Sadly there is nothing new in the NHS expecting people who can barely stand to manage a long wait with no seats.

www.theguardian.com/education/2020/dec/18/covid-unions-say-mass-testing-of-englands-pupils-undeliverable?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1608316674

"I keep seeing loads of media stories trying to get everyone behind the NHS Christmas single.
Sang byclearly very busy ICU nurses.

Bloody weird song choice"

Yes Every Breath You Take. This will have been signed off and agreed by several people and NOT ONE thought...........oh hang on a minute. But it gets glossed over . If it was someone like........Ozzy Osbourne doing it the press would be having a field day saying what an inappropriate song choice it is and same thing would be trending on Twitter for the same reason. But because its got the NHS label its given a stamp of approval.

@LivinLaVidaLoki
But, I can imagine the people in hospital with covid would make up a decent amount of the people normally admitted with other respiratory infections.....
So, is there not a bit of double counting in these predictions?

Not only that - but if these restrictions are doing anything at all they should be preventing the spread of flu and other respiratory infections even more than Covid (as Covid is allegedly so much more virulent than anything else ever.

If people are getting flu and not Covid it demonstrates that Covid is just doing what it does, regardless of what their chosen hosts try to do to stop it,

On Channel 4 right now. Coronavirus Vaccine Is it Safe.
a, elderly people with mobility issues standing in a queue some really struggling.
b. the guy on the door pulling an old mans face mask up for hm.

@MercyBooth 3 of my colleagues have taken part in this, 2 nurses and 1 consultant. They did it in their own time and maybe it's helped them, they enjoyed doing it, but I agree the choice of song is a bit

Oh yeah Its only the choice of song i was a bit at.

first part of my post was a quote.

Hi all! I managed to actually sing once this week! Dampened by the news, mid rehearsal, that we were going into tier 3 and the subsequent buzz buzz of all the singers phones going off with email cancellations of all gigs for the rest of the month. Merry Christmas to us....

It was amazing to sing properly though. With others. Even if we were live steamed with no congregation so it was more a broadcast than a service.

Fed up of this now. I usually earn more in a good week in December than I have earnt this whole tax year so far.

Weird, isn’t it, how the 80-somethings — a lot of whom will be frail — are having to queue in the freezing rain in December for their vaccines.

Whereas I — a healthy, sporty 40-something — will likely be getting mine in balmy July or August, according to the estimator thingy.

Seems a bit wrong, somehow. Making the elderly queue outside in the winter, but the younger people get theirs in the sunshine when (presumably) a lot of the urgency will have dropped off anyway.

I know it’s just worked out that way, timing-wise, but it struck me nonetheless.

My DF vaccine is now in new year and miles away. Lucky he can drive, otherwise 2 buses. If it has to be at a hub, why can’t it be in nearest town centre, not a bloody village with no fucking parking.
I’m sat watching Jingle Jangle and it’s so fucking joyful, it’s making me sad.I need to cheer up.

I have just cancelled our booking for our church’s OUTDOOR carol service on Sunday. Despite being told that we would be standing 3 metres apart and being outside the vicar decided we would have to sing in masks, as “mitigation”

I am just so done with this 😢

Do you know what would be even better than a relaxation of Da Roolz over Christmas? Even a brief moratorium on Covid-related signage, public service announcements and media saturation absolutely everywhere, except for maybe a page of news in each paper.

I'd be cancelling too.
I'll do the visor indoors (but avoid anything for pleasure as there is no pleasure in being around people in masks)
I draw the line at covering my face outdoors. A visor's dodgy anyway and I'm not putting up with steaming up and my voice bouncing back at me for absolutely no purpose.

@TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain

Do you know what would be even better than a relaxation of Da Roolz over Christmas? Even a brief moratorium on Covid-related signage, public service announcements and media saturation absolutely everywhere, except for maybe a page of news in each paper.

That would be amazing! It is totally draining having it shoved in your face and at your ears All The Fucking Time.

I don’t bother listening to the radio or watching live TV any more. Far too depressing having to listen to the inane 3 word slogans and dire predictions of instant death to millions over Christmas if we have the audacity to mingle.

I was speaking to my FiL on the phone this evening. He was saying what gets him is the inconsistency! Whole classes of kids sent home to isolate for 10 days because of the threat of "this deadly disease", yet they are issued with a leaflet explaining that "for the vast majority of people, Covid-19 is a mild illness, and you may have no, or only very few, symptoms". The public told to be alert for any sign of the illness, but you have no need to seek medical attention unless you "cannot manage your symptoms at home". And he noted that fatigue is now classed as a symptom, which leads him to believe that he has had Covid-19 since he joined the police force 32 years ago (Very Long Covid?). He is intending to let the BBC know that he must have been patient zero! (I wouldn't put it past him, either...)

Joking aside, it is such a shit show. They need to quit treating the general public like particularly thick toddlers and allow people to take ownership and responsibility for what they risk doing at Christmas. And stop with the fucking guilt trip videos of Covid patients in ICU imploring people not to mix at Christmas.

Excuse the language. It just pisses me off!