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ADs building hadron colliders out of used yoghurt pots

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NannyGythaOgg · 10/12/2020 16:01

... whilst waiting to see if the kids are or are not going to school next week and walking with imaginary cows.

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MercyBooth · 15/12/2020 00:44

Blimey. I missed that post.

DominaShantotto · 15/12/2020 00:47

I’m going to my mum’s for Christmas no matter what they u turn for. The kids presents are up there - they had crap birthdays and lost so much - they’re not losing a quiet, 2 households and 6 people in total, Christmas in an isolated house.

I think a festive u turn would break a lot of people’s mental health completely.

MercyBooth · 15/12/2020 00:50

@DominaShantotto Your planned Chrimbo is the same size as mine. Xmas Smile

TabbyStar · 15/12/2020 07:29

Surely that's a bit of a dodgy song, given some of the symptoms?

GrinGrin

If they do that i shall change my mind about having the vaccine

I have to say that this whole thing has turned me from a law-abiding citizen into someone who's first response is "you can fuck off with that". Largely because after 30 years of paying taxes they have refused to support me and even implied I'm a fraudster (company director) but also because of the complete farce of the hokey cokey nature of the lockdowns.

The panto bloke has it completely right.

JamSarnie · 15/12/2020 07:31

And the breaking news is today record high redundancies SadAngry

ISaySteadyOn · 15/12/2020 07:33

I think everyone has their own ideas and, tbh, I would like to put all this down to government incompetence. I think that if France and Germany jumped off a cliff, Boris would tell the UK we should do the same.

And going by MN, I am sure there are some people who would love it if the UK did what Australia did in Victoria.

This morning, I am just sad for DD2 who will lose all her activities that she loves again, for DS who is regressing to a proportion of nonverbalism, and for DD1 who has lost a large proportion of her friends. I am doing my best but when my resources are snatched away, what can I do? I feel quite alone except for these threads. I don't believe that there is anyone to ask for help anymore. School isn't on our side and there is nowhere to go (tier 3). Sorry for the garbled post.

Orangeblossom77777 · 15/12/2020 07:34

I have noticed a new 'masks outside in the streets' thing which seems to have come from Sadiq Khan...hmm I'm not keen on wearing them outside...

starfish88 · 15/12/2020 07:46

That "teacher" on that thread tipped me over the edge! I thought about making a comment about isolating 1 year old DS in his room for 10 days and seeing if it would be considered ad absurdum or whether I would just fit in well on that board. But then I felt so bad about even thinking it, I crept in with DS and lay next to his cot and we both slept through to 7am.

2 weeks in solitary in jail would have to be justified for even the worst criminals but we could do this over and over for our children? No wonder child mental health has taken a nose dive this year when child abuse is condoned.

ISaySteadyOn · 15/12/2020 07:52

@Orangeblossom77777

I have noticed a new 'masks outside in the streets' thing which seems to have come from Sadiq Khan...hmm I'm not keen on wearing them outside...
Never. It's outside. And Khan can fuck off to the far side and when he gets there fuck off some more.
Bollss · 15/12/2020 08:03

@DominaShantotto

I’m going to my mum’s for Christmas no matter what they u turn for. The kids presents are up there - they had crap birthdays and lost so much - they’re not losing a quiet, 2 households and 6 people in total, Christmas in an isolated house.

I think a festive u turn would break a lot of people’s mental health completely.

Exactly what we are doing. 2 households 6 people. All youngish and healthy, I'm probably the most at risk with asthma and it's a risk I am willing to take.
starfish88 · 15/12/2020 08:03

Masks outside are the norm where I was living outside of the UK but it's a relief they aren't here. I went for a walk at the beach yesterday and had to put my mask on for the Cafe loos but it was so windy I imagine any covid would have been blown miles away!

Bollss · 15/12/2020 08:04

In other news I was woken up by a car smashing into the wall over the road. It totally shit me up. Not sure how he did it. Must have totally missed the bend the div. The wall came off much better than his car.

Reedwarbler · 15/12/2020 08:04

With regard to comments about confinement - many care home residents are being kept in isolation. My fil's last 3 weeks of conscious life were spent alone in a room he could not leave, because he couldn't walk, and only receiving human contact necessary to survive. Wonderful way to treat the elderly, eh?
It must be the same in care homes all over the country, and not just those for the elderly. It must be total torture too for younger disabled people who have become virtual prisoners, and so detrimental mentally.
What's the betting there will be a government 'leak' on friday that BJ is going to give a press conference on monday, and that the Christmas arrangements are being reviewed and changed. Viruses mutate all the time - I thought I had read that they have discovered 19 mutations of covid. Why are they making so much of this? Could they be soft soaping us? Perish the thought!
One other thing while I'm here (sorry, I do just tend to go on a bit) but reading about all those people in Wales who are still testing positive for covid weeks after they've had it. Did I misunderstand, or are they actually still in hospital. If so. why? Unless they are seriously ill they should be recovering at home. Is there a problem with covid bed blocking as well now?

zigaziga · 15/12/2020 08:06

I don’t think the government is anyone’s puppet. I think the pandemic is real.

I think what happened is that some countries started copying China’s lockdown and it quickly became the accepted part of how to deal with this pandemic. It all happened so quickly and governments started copying each other and public opinion (bizarrely?) kept pushing everyone forward (take away our rights! Destroy everything and everyone to save the NHS!)
We see it all in a bit of a different light now like the curfew business and the “substantial meal” crap which even the experts know does nothing except cost money but look good. At the start no one seemed to question any of it. I don’t think anyone really knows how to get out of this fat mess now really. Not in this country or any other. The vaccine will be huge but the country needs to open up before the low risk population is vaccinated so everyone will have to accept that they will probably get it, which is a massive backtrack from where we are now. At what point do we do away with mass testing and school bubbles and treat CV like we do seasonal flu? At what point do we tell people that it doesn’t really matter if they get it asymptomatically because most people who matter are vaccinated?

I have to say, I have a bit more of an understanding now of how dictatorships and fascism can arise now. I am NOT saying that this government is a dictatorship and I do think even hapless Hancock thinks he’s saving lives and I think all of this is done in semi- good faith and actually I am pro some restrictions to deal with this and make the pandemic spread slower.. I am just not for full lockdown or the Hokey Cokey.. but it does show you how public option suddenly switches over night. The mask thing is just so strange - no one wore them early on and they were seen as un-British until suddenly anyone who wasn’t wearing one became a granny killer. If you start being sick on a plane and need to take it off it’s your fault and you shouldn’t fly if you’ve ever been travel sick in case you should need to take your mask off for a second. Suddenly people are pro children wearing masks at school forever.

Bollss · 15/12/2020 08:07

@Reedwarbler

With regard to comments about confinement - many care home residents are being kept in isolation. My fil's last 3 weeks of conscious life were spent alone in a room he could not leave, because he couldn't walk, and only receiving human contact necessary to survive. Wonderful way to treat the elderly, eh? It must be the same in care homes all over the country, and not just those for the elderly. It must be total torture too for younger disabled people who have become virtual prisoners, and so detrimental mentally. What's the betting there will be a government 'leak' on friday that BJ is going to give a press conference on monday, and that the Christmas arrangements are being reviewed and changed. Viruses mutate all the time - I thought I had read that they have discovered 19 mutations of covid. Why are they making so much of this? Could they be soft soaping us? Perish the thought! One other thing while I'm here (sorry, I do just tend to go on a bit) but reading about all those people in Wales who are still testing positive for covid weeks after they've had it. Did I misunderstand, or are they actually still in hospital. If so. why? Unless they are seriously ill they should be recovering at home. Is there a problem with covid bed blocking as well now?
I know I've already said it but I am so sorry about your FIL. It's disgraceful that people are being treated like this. It must be so terrifying especially when you're already suffering with your memory. Sad
Justgivemewine · 15/12/2020 08:28

Agree with @zigaziga said.

And it seems so many people can’t (or don’t think they’re allowed to) think for themselves anymore or apply any kind of common sense.

WouldBeGood · 15/12/2020 08:50

Do you think people just want to feel that they can be saved?

110APiccadilly · 15/12/2020 09:04

@Reedwarbler I think the people in hospital who have recovered are care home residents. Understandably the homes won't take them back if they're still testing positive just in case.

ISaySteadyOn · 15/12/2020 09:07

Maybe. But this isn't something one can really be saved from. Only acceptance of mortality can do that.

flower11 · 15/12/2020 09:15

The government had better not change the rules. My parents have just on into tier 3, no fault of theirs they are staying home and safe , dad is 80 they just want Christmas with the grandchildren they haven't seen all year as they live 5 hours away. I have just pulled my children out of school so we can safely do this. Now it all feels like its slipping away. So many children at their school were looked after by grandparents last week and see them all the time and carry on mixing anyway.

wanderings · 15/12/2020 09:23

Somebody needs to remind Saint Boris (someone asked me to stop calling him "Uncle Boris") that LIFE ITSELF has a 100% mortality rate. Why are he and his merry men so keen to eradicate death?

Notice also how Saint Boris is "too busy with Brussels" to break this latest news. He's desperately trying to avoid being Oliver Cromwell himself, he'd rather delegate that.

CS Lewis said that dictators who believe they are doing this "for the greater good", or "in the interest of health" are actually worse than the evil dictators, because they have the total blessing of their consciences.

A Wetherspoons has started displaying anti-lockdown propaganda in their windows. Good. We need more of this, like the "Three Bellends". Will there be some similarly named pubs in London now? And I hope that pubs, restaurants and the like start snubbing the MPs who forced them to close, and ban them for life unless they pay ten times as much.

110APiccadilly · 15/12/2020 09:26

I also think it's incompetence not conspiracy. And a certain type of person (I know a few of them) who, in the absence of religious faith, have faith in "science". The idea that science doesn't work like that is allowed to them. We must follow The Science for our salvation.

wanderings · 15/12/2020 09:27

How about if the sectors which the government has decimated start refusing to pay tax? There needs to be some sort of massive backlash against the government, one way or another. The public are FUCKING SICK of being messed about like this.

110APiccadilly · 15/12/2020 09:28

*alien to them, not allowed!

(One handed posting while feeding DD!)

starfish88 · 15/12/2020 09:38

All I can think is that is the government doesn't work in isolation. There are plenty of countries that depend on tourism and hospitality that will be keen to open back up as soon as they can and have eyes on this summer hoping the vaccine is rolled out. I can't see how we can stay locked down when others open up. Just like the follow-the-leader of lockdown, there will be one to come out again once the vaccine rolls out. I hope that's not totally naiive of me.