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Welcome into another thread covering the whole range of life and death, novelty vegetables, DIY, any other randomness and musings about a certain pandemic.

@justasking111

looking on rightmove commercial under offer restaurant in Arundel, Brighton let, £6250 pcm jakers thats an eye opener, etc. Looking down to let or under offer, Brighton, Arundel, Worthing, Reigate, Aldershot, Crowborough, Bracknell, Southampton, Reading, Aylesbury, Milton Keynes, Carterton, Marlborough, lots of cafes, restaurants under offer in these places, so is there a pattern do you think?

You sound like you know your stuff! I’m interested but don’t know about commercial property at all.

The frothing must be near peak in the other place. I feel like exiting every thread with a curtsey and a “if you say so, oh Lady of the Froth”.

Property in the hospitality sector like your home is location, location, location. Is it tourist based, will it survive off season with locals. Should you buy a cafe, tea room or restaurant is your target market a day one or a night one. Around here we have places that open during the day every day, but only open a few evenings a week. If your customers are going to be working from home will they slip out for lunch? One chippy in this town opens at Easter, whit, then summer holidays. Closed the rest of the time just come on the market for £600k. The books must back up this price.

I find it fascinating the way society is moving in a wave out of close packed city living to enjoy a slower pace of life which will include eating out whether it be a coffee and a sandwich or dining out.

When I was in Leeds September, was amazed at the buzz all ages mixing enjoying all cuisines, bottomless brunches, snacks. Was lovely to hear the hum after being locked down in Wales for months.

Our neighbourhood got its first ever cafe a couple of years ago. The hairdresser opperated across two units, condensed the hairdressing into one by reconfiguring it and runs a liscenced cafe. Quickly jumped onto a take-away service to keep going in the spring.
Nearby village has just launched a cafe in the former shop/ post office. It's opening was delayed until the summer. I made it down during EOTHO.

There wasn't anything other than a few bog standard pubs until these two and I hope they come out of the other side of this OK.

Nurse on BBC News this morning has just categorically stated that having the vaccine will prevent transmission.... has the official line changed?

That's great sonic. I mean, it must do, surely? Or what's the point?

@SirSamuelVimes

That's great sonic. I mean, it must do, surely? Or what's the point?

Well, I won’t go into the point

But apparently ITV doc has said the opposite.

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Our local high street is always full of coffee shops and "caffs" which always seem packed - albeit more of them are a bacon sarnie and mug of nescafe than double shot skinny latte territory (Eastenders versus Pret).

We only have those, takeaways, vape and charity shops left mind.

@DominaShantotto

Our local high street is always full of coffee shops and "caffs" which always seem packed - albeit more of them are a bacon sarnie and mug of nescafe than double shot skinny latte territory (Eastenders versus Pret).

We only have those, takeaways, vape and charity shops left mind.

Are they packed now?

My local caffs are sadly empty.

@AcornAutumn that’s such a shame yours are so empty. Bizarrely (or not, I guess) our local shops are doing better than ever. We have a chain bakery that was always doing well and an independent that seemed to just about survive.. that local bakery now has queues of at least 10 people every day since March and has taken on more staff. I overheard the owner tell someone they were doing at least 50 coffees an hour back in early summer.
We’re fortunate to also have a butchers and a greengrocer and they are also thriving it seems. Obviously same cannot be said for the independent travel agent and the clothes shops of course. Thankfully the bookshop has a permanent queue these days too.

Like everything, CV has hit in such a unequal manner and the areas that needed the most help will be the hardest hit. It is catastrophic and so so so unfair.

Dr Hilary is the TV version of the Daily Fail...

My little town centre is pretty busy , Nero was full yesterday and local independents did delivery and take out in lockdown and seem to be doing well. Cafe in park that usually closes for winter is open and doing well out of only meeting outdoors rules.

I have ds home now until after Christmas, his bubble has popped, so has much of the school. My living room is trashed already. It's going to be a gin day ! I'm leaving him with DH in a bit to get some food and go to the post office.

Our high street has lots of cafes, also restaurants & bars which quickly adapted to doing takeaways. Sitting outside in the summer was a thing here well before covid, & one factor why it's a popular place to live.

The cafes are still busy, unless it's raining. No one can sit inside as we're in a tier 3. You can't sit outside on the cafe's chairs either, but you can sit on a bench or wall a few feet away.

However, a couple have closed permanently already. They were popular ones too, so I'm not sure where it went wrong for them.

I went for a murderous stroll down our local high street yesterday (ostensibly to go to the dry cleaners). Two new cafes have opened up, and one other one has closed down. So we're a net total of one cafe up.

I hope the people who worked in the one that closed down were able to get jobs in the new places.

It's cafe/bakeries round here (south west London) rather than caffs. I'm from Burnley originally, I love a good greasy spoon. I think I'd need to go quite far to get a strong brew in a tin mug these days.

Apparently there isn't much margin in coffee. (That's why they all sell baked goods too; there's a lot more margin in sponge.) So I don't think it takes much to send a coffee-based business into trouble.

There's been mention recently from our Council about granting more change of use from commercial to residential. There are quite a lot of empty shops and restaurants but at the same time it's a very, very popular city to live in (particularly draws in ex-Londoners). I suppose there'll inevitably be a lot of conversions.

All righty. I’ve just been for dim sum with my husband and been to the hairdresser, who kindly cut off loads of hair (I asked him to, it was getting so knotty I couldn’t brush it). There was a lady in the chair next to me who was moaning about how many people were in the restaurant she went to last night ... but she was there too so meh.

Been to the dentist and hygienist. Really need to write my Christmas cards.

@NastyBlouse

Apparently there isn't much margin in coffee. (That's why they all sell baked goods too; there's a lot more margin in sponge.) So I don't think it takes much to send a coffee-based business into trouble.

A friend’s nanny owned her own coffee shop / stall in north London. She got into nannying because it had to close.

There's still sending entire year groups home here - so I've got one home for 14 days again. Though this is only the thrid time it's has happened for us so we're not doing so bad I suppose.

The local shops seem busy enough - the two local cafe seem to be managing to stay open and there are shoppers in nearest shopping areas and at least some are buying.

House prices are continuing to go up where we are - we're in a suburb where you can easily access some countryside and it's commutable to several nearby cities and some of the nearby cities do attract Londoners which pushes prices up in them.

*Are they packed now?

My local caffs are sadly empty.*

We're tier 3 so at the moment they're shut - normally they're busy all the time - quite a lot of socialising tends to go on in them.

DH now in dog house - he literally didn't notice I walked through the door with purple hair! (it was pink last time so I've form for the strong colours - but done well, rather than "teenager with pot of directions" method)

Update on my health scare last week: still haven't been seen by a medical professional in person, but was prescribed antibiotics over the phone and issued with a swab test, which I insisted in carrying out in the surgery loo, not at home. Now waiting on test results which seem to have got lost. Symptoms have subsided but the most worrying one hasn't. Thanks for all your help, ADs!

House prices round here are weird. Some places are now astronomical due to commuting distance from Manchester and probably even London if near a station, but the more unfashionable towns less than a mile away are still cheap. It makes me worry for DD's future as she seems to want to stay in her home county and I'd rather local young people did stay and keep places going than them becoming commuter dormitories or retirement communities.

I just got a text notification from my doctors surgery inviting me to book an appt for a flu jab 😲😲x apparently I'm in the next cohort of people aged between 50 and 64 who haven't had the jab before. Would I be unreasonable to return the text saying they must have me confused with someone else as I'm definitely not old enough for the flu jab as 51 isn't old?!! 🤣🤣🤣

Ha I’ve always had the flu jab, my (old) work provided them for everyone as does DH’s place and actually a lot of the workplaces j know. Because I’m now a SAHM I didn’t get it this year and I’d much rather I’d had it. I don’t think of it as an older person’s thing at all!

DH old work place used to offer flu jabs. As soon as D1 is 16 I'll pay for one if she not eligable for free NHS one.

DS 13 and asthmatic finally just got done so it probably menas they've finally got through the at risk people.

I'm not anti vaccination in general but the chances of me getting flu are ridiculously small - I work in my own office, don't socialise in big groups, dont drink or smoke, eat healthily and (when I'm not being excessively lazy like now,) exercise daily. I just don't see the point of putting artificial 'immunity' into my body when my own immune system has proven time and time again to be more than adept at fighting off colds and other infections. I would rather the dose went to someone who needs it more

I had a text from my GP surgery about the flu jab as I fall in the next cohort as well. Seeing as though I last had flu in 1976 I declined. Am currently keeping all bugs away with copious amounts of alcohol and chocolate. It appears to be working!