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Welcome into another thread covering the whole range of life and death, novelty vegetables, DIY, any other randomness and musings about a certain pandemic.

Oh Dowser, that's miserable. You are not the first person I've heard of who has paid a lot of money for tests & had a shoddy service. Colleagues of DD had symptoms so isolated but couldn't get a NHS test for days. Paid privately, waited days for the tests to arrive & then a week for the results, which were negative.

@TabbyStar
I'm in groups for people left out of support and a couple of times something has been planned but then there are tighter restrictions, and it's not that people are worried about covid, but that it will lose us sympathy if we break the rules and it's cancelled.
I think that's what I meant when I said that gatherings were frowned upon- the loss of sympathy. Because I hear people saying they're fed up with restrictions, but each time there's a group of people gathering, whether it's for a protest or at a Christmas market or shops, there's fear that the gathering will cause the infection rate to go up & we'll be given tighter restrictions. So any sympathy goes down the drain because there's a further threat to liberty.

There's a lot of, " if we stick to the rules now this will be over quicker," which isn't how a pandemic works. But I think that's part of the thinking behind people being fearful of others not sticking to the rules?

In person, such as on the school run I just leave it as "I can't wear one as they make me hyperventilate very quickly" which is true. My additional thoughts about their effectiveness are kept to myself except in circumstances like abstaining school mum yesterday when it's clear I have a kindred ear. Other than my MN rantings, I tend to keep my thoughts to my self on SM.

If people say it's not enough to be not racist, you have to be anti-racist, I suspect I fail at being pro-active enough to be anti-mask. As much as I physically recoil at the sight of the dratted things, I'm not going to try to try remove people's rights to wear them if they want to wear a security blanket on their face. Most people are wearing them because they "should" and they might extend that because it's more faff to them to whip it on and off constantly. I do think that putting them on soley to go for a walk in a reasonably quiet place is a folly though... but I just litterally face the other way and ignore. Some thoughts don't need to be voiced on either side of the issue.

I just want the government to remove the compulsion and let ambivilence do its job as people drift from the habit.

Oh gosh Dowser that sucks.

I follow a couple of pages on Facebook related to travel to Canaries. It seems like a few people struggle with the testing procedure.

I hope you get to go soon.

That's really bad Dowser - I hope you recover from the whole stressful thing soon and can re-book.

BBC site is depressing me -

Covid: NAHT 'hopeful' Wales' schools will close for Christmas after Friday I don't want my Y11 losing another week of proper school - though on-line teaching has massively improved since Septemeber it's not the same and many parents with younger kids would be stuffed for childcare.

@BogRollBOGOF I'm not sure if your post is aimed at me. I take your point, but it isn't as though driving to Costco and then standing in a queue for 15 mins is going to necessitate faffing around taking a mask on and off.

I wasn't standing in the queue making snide comments to people. I wasn't even rolling my eyes at people for choosing to wear a mask outside. If anything, it was other people glaring at me as if to say "why aren't you wearing a mask in this great big open space, even though you are not required to either by law or by Costco management".

I had thought this thread was a safe space to vent frustrations at covid nonsense. Of course people have the right to wear a mask whenever they want - just as I have the right to say, on anonymous forum, that I personally find it strange.

@Reedwarbler

I have just been reading that over 10,000 cases of covid were acquired in hospitals (Telegraph). In our area 15% of covid cases are from the hospital. (NOT from the pubs then, which have been painted as breeding grounds). So why aren't they paying more attention to this? I really don't understand the draconian rules they've created for pubs at all, it doesn't make sense. All these sanctimonious nurses telling us we are selfish if we do such and such, perhaps they ought to look a little closer to home. Of course the moral is, for gods sake, stay away from your local hospital if you can possibly help it. You are more likely to catch it there than most other places.

As far as I can see, there’s no infection control. The people I know who were hospitalised with covid were on open bays. Our whole hospital set up is crazy this way but in my local area, they’d have been better using the private rooms they do have.

Am I the only one who thinks it’s obvious that anti mask = masks should not be law

Amd anti lockdown = lockdown should not be law

If people want to stay home or wear masks, that’s fine. Neither should be mandated.

@pearlypidge, I think BogRoll was only expressing her views on masks not aiming them at anybody. This is definitely a place to have a moan or a at some things.

@AcornAutumn, well, that's what I thought but sometimes it sounds like anti mask and anti lockdown means you'll force people out of their homes and their masks. Just as extreme but the opposite iyswim.

I actually kept JV on the radio at lunch time today. Nobody being hysterical for a change.
They interviewed an author who has written a book based on wartime diaries.

Wasn't really concentrating but some interesting reports. Included people telling tales of others making unnecessary journeys and stories of people reporting others because their Christmas cards weighed fractionally more than was 'allowed'.

Also stories complaining bitterly about having to take a gasmask with them at all times - and being called names for not wanting to.

They have always walked amongst us.

Well it's apparently definitely home learning next week for all my children - I know both girls had tests happening next week including Y11 child so doesn't sound like the teachers got much warning either.

ISaySteadyOn “ but sometimes it sounds like anti mask and anti lockdown means you'll force people out of their homes and their masks”

I’ve not heard of anyone who wants this.

I think a lot of people who can work at home are worried that their bosses will ask them to go back, I don’t know what the recommendations are on that because I’ve lost the plot.

My sister is very anti social media in spite of not using it. I only have MN amd didn’t think much either way about social media but now I wonder if it’s that which has skewed things that seem obvious and clear to me.

Thank you all for your good wishes

I’m sure we will bounce back
Eventually

Is there a new thread

Here you are

new thread

[quote pearlypidge]@BogRollBOGOF I'm not sure if your post is aimed at me. I take your point, but it isn't as though driving to Costco and then standing in a queue for 15 mins is going to necessitate faffing around taking a mask on and off.

I wasn't standing in the queue making snide comments to people. I wasn't even rolling my eyes at people for choosing to wear a mask outside. If anything, it was other people glaring at me as if to say "why aren't you wearing a mask in this great big open space, even though you are not required to either by law or by Costco management".

I had thought this thread was a safe space to vent frustrations at covid nonsense. Of course people have the right to wear a mask whenever they want - just as I have the right to say, on anonymous forum, that I personally find it strange.

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Oh no it wasn't aimed at you at all, just the general question of "what is anti-mask". I can't imagine anyone on these threads making snide remarks which is the point of our conversations rambling on for thread after thread. Sorry if I wasn't clear, I was about to rush off out so didn't proofread.

DH tried to go to Costco on Monday, saw the gridlock in the carpark and turned around. Tuesday he went at about 4:30 after it started raining and walked straight in!

Costco was the most masky place right at the start for months before they became the rule. I don't know whether it's that people had more access to them through their line of work or whether it was more attractive to risk adverse people than the supermarkets. I haven't ventured there since July. I barely manage their trolleys anyway and was worried that being a masky place, people might take issue with me wearing a visor.

DH said that the samples are back though. That's a good taste of normal

@Dowser what an absolute shambles.

@pearlypidge

I'm in a queue to get into Costco. The queue is outside, snaking around the car park. Literally everyone in the queue is wearing a face mask (except for me. I'll put mine on when I get to the door).

Maybe they just have cold faces, but I think it's really odd that so many people are wearing masks when they don't have to

I find it strange when people are driving with no one else in the car that they're wearing masks? Especially if they have glasses. Accident waiting to happen, imo. I get annoyed at the fact that people who should know (yes, some management, I'm looking at you!) still don't know that I don't have to wear a mask if I'm behind a screen! Yes if I'm on the shop floor but not behind a screen.

@Jourdain11 hope you're feeling better - I had bacterial pneumonia as well and was wiped out for a while

@Dowser that absolutely sucks. I hope you can rebook soon

@NannyGythaOgg thanks for new thread and great title

@AcornAutumn Hope it's ok - I am anxious as fuck about my parents too

Hi all,

Sorry everyone is feeling so rubbish with the restrictions. DH climbing up the walls with the threat of London restrictions, which will mean he can't go to the pub with his TA mates. (Which he obviously isn't supposed to anyway - I did wonder how the staff managed to justify that a 33 year old white bloke and a black woman in her 60s were a household - he was planning to claim that she was his mother!). I think in a way I've been a bit fortunate. I got my leukaemia diagnosis literally a week and a half after lockdown, so I lost my normality anyway. And as a result, haven't noticed so much the erosion of actual normality! Although it would be nice to see more people without feeling guilty. My friends are not very law abiding.

The choir sounds lovely! I think that whenever you can do normal stuff again, it just feels so right and good. Like, oh yeah, that is what life is supposed to be like!

I'm still detained in the hospital. I had to have some oxygen because I was having a bit of trouble breathing, but it helped a lot and I'm feeling better than earlier. I am feeling a bit down though. Lack of social interaction and I get nasty black thoughts creeping in (of the, what if I don't see my kids grow up, variety). This is where some visitors would make a big difference! Honestly, if I wanted to be socially isolated I could have gone to live in the Outer Hebrides instead of Zone 2 in Plague City.

In lighter news, DD2 has obviously figured out how to get round the parental controls on Netflix and watched most of The Other Boleyn Girl. She's now flouncing around quoting her favourite passages, which seem to be the most dramatic ones: "My Lord: how hath I offended you?" And, "THE QUEEN NO LONGER BLEEDS." (Although DH has clarified that she has not a clue what that means.) She also got a ticking off at school for asking if white ghosts were the ghosts of white people and if brown and black people had brown and black ghosts....

Is there a new thread? Have I lost you all?

Yes, can't link as on the app but I've just posted on it so should be close to top of active convos, has hadron colliders and yoghurt pots in title! I think it was linked further up

Got it, thx!